I think people is understimating Floyd, and I am not a floyd fan, i actually root for pac and jmm but how can you say a fair line between floyd and marquez is -400 and also saying that a fair line between pac and floyd would be a pick them, I cant believe this comment, base on this comment you assume pack is 4 times better than marquez, are you kidding me? Didnt you watch the marquez-pac fights? Pac started really good in both fights but then jmm schooled him, you can argue about the 1st fight that pac won but the 2nd one at worst was a draw for jmm and STYLES MAKE FIGHTS !!! pac struggles against counter punchers like jmm and floyd is just an improved version of jmm, they are very similar, the difference I see is floyd is faster, stronger and more athethic than jmm, on the other hand I would say jmm counters not just by using a 1-2 punch and then staying out like fmj, jmm counters with combinations as well with 1-2 punches so thats the advantage i see for jmm against floyd but basically floyd is better in every aspect being so similar style as jmm so if jmm did make pac looked bad imagine an improve version of jmm(fmj), faster, stronger and quicker, so dont make those statements in lines that only leads to think that pac is 4 times better than jmm because everyone knows thats just wrong, dont let that hatton ko fool you, STYLES MAKES FIGHTS and thats why pac put to sleep hatton in less than 2 rounds becuase it was a great matchup for pac, a guy(hatton and i am not saying he is a bum or anything, he is good ok fighter with the wrong opponent in from of him for his style) coming straight forward without defense to the straight left and right hooks, fmj didnt knock hatton out in the 2nd round not because pac is better but because its not mayweather style, you cant compare, on the other hand you do can visualize what would happen in a pac-mayweather fight watching the pac-jmm fight why? because jmm and floyd styles are pretty similar so thats it just my opinion... Anyways I hope jmm kick fmj ass and the pacman kick him on the canvas LOL !! But i just dont see it happening I actually think it will be tougher for floyd beat jmm than pacquiao(on points) of course pac can land a big straight left and the fight could be over but which I cant see jmm doing but I dont think it will happen, hope espn and the media keep saying how pacman will kick mayweather ass whch I hope but the day of the fight if I see a line at pickem I will have to go big with floyd...
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I think people is understimating Floyd, and I am not a floyd fan, i actually root for pac and jmm but how can you say a fair line between floyd and marquez is -400 and also saying that a fair line between pac and floyd would be a pick them, I cant believe this comment, base on this comment you assume pack is 4 times better than marquez, are you kidding me? Didnt you watch the marquez-pac fights? Pac started really good in both fights but then jmm schooled him, you can argue about the 1st fight that pac won but the 2nd one at worst was a draw for jmm and STYLES MAKE FIGHTS !!! pac struggles against counter punchers like jmm and floyd is just an improved version of jmm, they are very similar, the difference I see is floyd is faster, stronger and more athethic than jmm, on the other hand I would say jmm counters not just by using a 1-2 punch and then staying out like fmj, jmm counters with combinations as well with 1-2 punches so thats the advantage i see for jmm against floyd but basically floyd is better in every aspect being so similar style as jmm so if jmm did make pac looked bad imagine an improve version of jmm(fmj), faster, stronger and quicker, so dont make those statements in lines that only leads to think that pac is 4 times better than jmm because everyone knows thats just wrong, dont let that hatton ko fool you, STYLES MAKES FIGHTS and thats why pac put to sleep hatton in less than 2 rounds becuase it was a great matchup for pac, a guy(hatton and i am not saying he is a bum or anything, he is good ok fighter with the wrong opponent in from of him for his style) coming straight forward without defense to the straight left and right hooks, fmj didnt knock hatton out in the 2nd round not because pac is better but because its not mayweather style, you cant compare, on the other hand you do can visualize what would happen in a pac-mayweather fight watching the pac-jmm fight why? because jmm and floyd styles are pretty similar so thats it just my opinion... Anyways I hope jmm kick fmj ass and the pacman kick him on the canvas LOL !! But i just dont see it happening I actually think it will be tougher for floyd beat jmm than pacquiao(on points) of course pac can land a big straight left and the fight could be over but which I cant see jmm doing but I dont think it will happen, hope espn and the media keep saying how pacman will kick mayweather ass whch I hope but the day of the fight if I see a line at pickem I will have to go big with floyd...
I think people is understimating Floyd, and I am not a floyd fan, i actually root for pac and jmm but how can you say a fair line between floyd and marquez is -400 and also saying that a fair line between pac and floyd would be a pick them, I cant believe this comment, base on this comment you assume pack is 4 times better than marquez, are you kidding me? Didnt you watch the marquez-pac fights? Pac started really good in both fights but then jmm schooled him, you can argue about the 1st fight that pac won but the 2nd one at worst was a draw for jmm and STYLES MAKE FIGHTS !!! pac struggles against counter punchers like jmm and floyd is just an improved version of jmm, they are very similar, the difference I see is floyd is faster, stronger and more athethic than jmm, on the other hand I would say jmm counters not just by using a 1-2 punch and then staying out like fmj, jmm counters with combinations as well with 1-2 punches so thats the advantage i see for jmm against floyd but basically floyd is better in every aspect being so similar style as jmm so if jmm did make pac looked bad imagine an improve version of jmm(fmj), faster, stronger and quicker, so dont make those statements in lines that only leads to think that pac is 4 times better than jmm because everyone knows thats just wrong, dont let that hatton ko fool you, STYLES MAKES FIGHTS and thats why pac put to sleep hatton in less than 2 rounds becuase it was a great matchup for pac, a guy(hatton and i am not saying he is a bum or anything, he is good ok fighter with the wrong opponent in from of him for his style) coming straight forward without defense to the straight left and right hooks, fmj didnt knock hatton out in the 2nd round not because pac is better but because its not mayweather style, you cant compare, on the other hand you do can visualize what would happen in a pac-mayweather fight watching the pac-jmm fight why? because jmm and floyd styles are pretty similar so thats it just my opinion... Anyways I hope jmm kick fmj ass and the pacman kick him on the canvas LOL !! But i just dont see it happening I actually think it will be tougher for floyd beat jmm than pacquiao(on points) of course pac can land a big straight left and the fight could be over but which I cant see jmm doing but I dont think it will happen, hope espn and the media keep saying how pacman will kick mayweather ass whch I hope but the day of the fight if I see a line at pickem I will have to go big with floyd...
The line isn't based on what I believe, it's public perception.
Diaz was beating the hell out of JMM, and KNOCKED HIM DOWN CLEAN. He just got gassed and couldn't take the brutal body shots from JMM - an amazing mid-fight adjustment that backs up the claim that JMM is one of the sharpest fighters of this decade. He also got his ass beat ala Ricky then turned the fight around and won the first fight. (in my eyes)
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Quote Originally Posted by GmoNavarro:
I think people is understimating Floyd, and I am not a floyd fan, i actually root for pac and jmm but how can you say a fair line between floyd and marquez is -400 and also saying that a fair line between pac and floyd would be a pick them, I cant believe this comment, base on this comment you assume pack is 4 times better than marquez, are you kidding me? Didnt you watch the marquez-pac fights? Pac started really good in both fights but then jmm schooled him, you can argue about the 1st fight that pac won but the 2nd one at worst was a draw for jmm and STYLES MAKE FIGHTS !!! pac struggles against counter punchers like jmm and floyd is just an improved version of jmm, they are very similar, the difference I see is floyd is faster, stronger and more athethic than jmm, on the other hand I would say jmm counters not just by using a 1-2 punch and then staying out like fmj, jmm counters with combinations as well with 1-2 punches so thats the advantage i see for jmm against floyd but basically floyd is better in every aspect being so similar style as jmm so if jmm did make pac looked bad imagine an improve version of jmm(fmj), faster, stronger and quicker, so dont make those statements in lines that only leads to think that pac is 4 times better than jmm because everyone knows thats just wrong, dont let that hatton ko fool you, STYLES MAKES FIGHTS and thats why pac put to sleep hatton in less than 2 rounds becuase it was a great matchup for pac, a guy(hatton and i am not saying he is a bum or anything, he is good ok fighter with the wrong opponent in from of him for his style) coming straight forward without defense to the straight left and right hooks, fmj didnt knock hatton out in the 2nd round not because pac is better but because its not mayweather style, you cant compare, on the other hand you do can visualize what would happen in a pac-mayweather fight watching the pac-jmm fight why? because jmm and floyd styles are pretty similar so thats it just my opinion... Anyways I hope jmm kick fmj ass and the pacman kick him on the canvas LOL !! But i just dont see it happening I actually think it will be tougher for floyd beat jmm than pacquiao(on points) of course pac can land a big straight left and the fight could be over but which I cant see jmm doing but I dont think it will happen, hope espn and the media keep saying how pacman will kick mayweather ass whch I hope but the day of the fight if I see a line at pickem I will have to go big with floyd...
The line isn't based on what I believe, it's public perception.
Diaz was beating the hell out of JMM, and KNOCKED HIM DOWN CLEAN. He just got gassed and couldn't take the brutal body shots from JMM - an amazing mid-fight adjustment that backs up the claim that JMM is one of the sharpest fighters of this decade. He also got his ass beat ala Ricky then turned the fight around and won the first fight. (in my eyes)
The line isn't based on what I believe, it's public perception.
Diaz was beating the hell out of JMM, and KNOCKED HIM DOWN CLEAN. He just got gassed and couldn't take the brutal body shots from JMM - an amazing mid-fight adjustment that backs up the claim that JMM is one of the sharpest fighters of this decade. He also got his ass beat ala Ricky then turned the fight around and won the first fight. (in my eyes)
I wasnt referring to you, I know you meant public perception which I agree with you I am just saying the line is just wrong, people doesnt understand styles makes fights what they see is pacman koed ODLH and hatton in 2 rounds and fmj couldnt koed odlh and he koed hatton in 10 so based on that they think the line must be even or pac a little fave, I hope this would be like that if the fight ever happens so I can go big on floyd but I just wanted to tell the people this perception is just wrong !!! GL !!!
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Quote Originally Posted by walktheline:
The line isn't based on what I believe, it's public perception.
Diaz was beating the hell out of JMM, and KNOCKED HIM DOWN CLEAN. He just got gassed and couldn't take the brutal body shots from JMM - an amazing mid-fight adjustment that backs up the claim that JMM is one of the sharpest fighters of this decade. He also got his ass beat ala Ricky then turned the fight around and won the first fight. (in my eyes)
I wasnt referring to you, I know you meant public perception which I agree with you I am just saying the line is just wrong, people doesnt understand styles makes fights what they see is pacman koed ODLH and hatton in 2 rounds and fmj couldnt koed odlh and he koed hatton in 10 so based on that they think the line must be even or pac a little fave, I hope this would be like that if the fight ever happens so I can go big on floyd but I just wanted to tell the people this perception is just wrong !!! GL !!!
Diaz was beating the hell out of JMM, and KNOCKED HIM DOWN CLEAN. He just got gassed and couldn't take the brutal body shots from JMM - an amazing mid-fight adjustment that backs up the claim that JMM is one of the sharpest fighters of this decade. He also got his ass beat ala Ricky then turned the fight around and won the first fight. (in my eyes)
I don't remember JMM getting knocked down by Diaz...
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Quote Originally Posted by walktheline:
Diaz was beating the hell out of JMM, and KNOCKED HIM DOWN CLEAN. He just got gassed and couldn't take the brutal body shots from JMM - an amazing mid-fight adjustment that backs up the claim that JMM is one of the sharpest fighters of this decade. He also got his ass beat ala Ricky then turned the fight around and won the first fight. (in my eyes)
I don't remember JMM getting knocked down by Diaz...
just back from the fight in vegas,,luckys (vegas gaming outlet) has the fight posted as a "pick-em" provided this fight goes off by feb 2010 - nice work over the weekend manny , well done
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just back from the fight in vegas,,luckys (vegas gaming outlet) has the fight posted as a "pick-em" provided this fight goes off by feb 2010 - nice work over the weekend manny , well done
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