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    Bradley (Focused) vs Pacquiao (???)

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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2012 - 12:47 AM ET #1

    The biggest factor will be POWER. Bradley doesn't have it and Pacquiao does. Also, Manny's chin has been tested, especially when he was one-handed and a terrible boxer, and JMM was hitting him with clean flush powerful shots. Bradley has solid fundamentals, a relentless worker, works off the jab, and seems to be improving.
    With that said, he will be moving quite a bit early on. There will come an early point he might have to establish some ground so Manny doesn't walk him down, but that depends on how well he evaluates and responds. Also, a fighter who most likely will be fighting going backwards (for almost every round) needs to win rounds not just by landing more effective shots, or even winning per say... when you fight a MONEY-MACHINE like Manny, and a guy with a reputation like Manny's, you have to dominate rounds in order for judges to give you a clear-cut round. Yes, it is unfortunate, but boxing is a business first, and sport second. Bradley winning is not a profitable scene, only, and only if a rematch would be in the works. The only thing comparable to a Mayweather-Pacquiao is a Trilogy. The thing I doubt about it is Manny's lack of interest in boxing the past few years so I think he is all done with rematches and therefore no Trilogy.
    Bradley's competition has been Holt (struggled at under 140lbs and is a much stronger guy at 5lbs more), Campbell (was near 40 and cut, stop in round 3), Peterson, Alexander (has great athletics but bad fundamentals and hasn't improved in 5 years) and Casamayor (way to old, and fought at a weight to high). Bradley did dominate all these fights, but has yet to be tested.
    Pacquiao's recent: Marquez (HOF, he adjusted to the higher weight after a few bouts. Not over-the-hill, and still very strong overall). Mosley came for a payday and ran (if Mosley fought like he did Canelo, Mosley would have been retired before Canelo). MargaCheeto was totally wiped-out after Mosley fight without the physical and mental edge of wraps. Clottey had no speed and was a punching bag. Cotto fought but he had no defense and he is much better now and not past his prime like many think.
    So, Where's the edge? A fighter on the rise who is focused but untested, or a supreme athlete past his prime who has fought many great tough fights, but seems unfocused with many distractions. Even on the decline, Manny is the physical dominate fighter and the simple reason is power. If Bradley can catch Manny clean consistently over 12 rounds while fighting backwards, but also has to show the judges he can hurt or stop Manny from walking him down then Yes he can get the decision. That is too many strikes against him.
    The funny part is I read articles that Bradley is Tailor-Made for Manny... the last Mega-Fighter that I remember a lot of hype claiming his opponent was Tailor-Made was in February 10th (11th on site) in 1990 and a 42-1 underdog...now you know, Tyson vs Douglas! The conditions of having a super-athlete that was seriously distracted fighting and opponent in the best shape and more focused on that fight than any other time in his life. The difference was Douglas grew up hating boxing but his father groomed him, but he had physical skills but most his career he was not motivated and quit. Bradley is no quitter, and maybe a tougher guy mentally than Manny, but the evidence points to his lack of punching power and that's something Manny has a lot of as well as speed.
    GL to all and I will add a more technical write-up prior to fight time.
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    The biggest factor will be POWER. Bradley doesn't have it and Pacquiao does. Also, Manny's chin has been tested, especially when he was one-handed and a terrible boxer, and JMM was hitting him with clean flush powerful shots. Bradley has solid fundamentals, a relentless worker, works off the jab, and seems to be improving.
    With that said, he will be moving quite a bit early on. There will come an early point he might have to establish some ground so Manny doesn't walk him down, but that depends on how well he evaluates and responds. Also, a fighter who most likely will be fighting going backwards (for almost every round) needs to win rounds not just by landing more effective shots, or even winning per say... when you fight a MONEY-MACHINE like Manny, and a guy with a reputation like Manny's, you have to dominate rounds in order for judges to give you a clear-cut round. Yes, it is unfortunate, but boxing is a business first, and sport second. Bradley winning is not a profitable scene, only, and only if a rematch would be in the works. The only thing comparable to a Mayweather-Pacquiao is a Trilogy. The thing I doubt about it is Manny's lack of interest in boxing the past few years so I think he is all done with rematches and therefore no Trilogy.
    Bradley's competition has been Holt (struggled at under 140lbs and is a much stronger guy at 5lbs more), Campbell (was near 40 and cut, stop in round 3), Peterson, Alexander (has great athletics but bad fundamentals and hasn't improved in 5 years) and Casamayor (way to old, and fought at a weight to high). Bradley did dominate all these fights, but has yet to be tested.
    Pacquiao's recent: Marquez (HOF, he adjusted to the higher weight after a few bouts. Not over-the-hill, and still very strong overall). Mosley came for a payday and ran (if Mosley fought like he did Canelo, Mosley would have been retired before Canelo). MargaCheeto was totally wiped-out after Mosley fight without the physical and mental edge of wraps. Clottey had no speed and was a punching bag. Cotto fought but he had no defense and he is much better now and not past his prime like many think.
    So, Where's the edge? A fighter on the rise who is focused but untested, or a supreme athlete past his prime who has fought many great tough fights, but seems unfocused with many distractions. Even on the decline, Manny is the physical dominate fighter and the simple reason is power. If Bradley can catch Manny clean consistently over 12 rounds while fighting backwards, but also has to show the judges he can hurt or stop Manny from walking him down then Yes he can get the decision. That is too many strikes against him.
    The funny part is I read articles that Bradley is Tailor-Made for Manny... the last Mega-Fighter that I remember a lot of hype claiming his opponent was Tailor-Made was in February 10th (11th on site) in 1990 and a 42-1 underdog...now you know, Tyson vs Douglas! The conditions of having a super-athlete that was seriously distracted fighting and opponent in the best shape and more focused on that fight than any other time in his life. The difference was Douglas grew up hating boxing but his father groomed him, but he had physical skills but most his career he was not motivated and quit. Bradley is no quitter, and maybe a tougher guy mentally than Manny, but the evidence points to his lack of punching power and that's something Manny has a lot of as well as speed.
    GL to all and I will add a more technical write-up prior to fight time.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2012 - 3:06 AM ET #2

    cheers for the write up. not much a boxing fan and wanna read up before i make a wager
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    cheers for the write up. not much a boxing fan and wanna read up before i make a wager
     
     
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    3BallBomber: Mack has written a good thread that is more technical with the match-up. I will write my agreements & others info on his or this thread.
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    3BallBomber: Mack has written a good thread that is more technical with the match-up. I will write my agreements & others info on his or this thread.
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