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    Fight was fixed. Never betting a top rank or HBO fight again.

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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2013 - 2:45 AM ET #1

    I have no doubts this fight was rigged. 100% positive about this.  Tim Bradley didn't outbox or outwork JMM or dominate like they were trying to push on the audience.  Timmy lost the last three rounds and was running the majority of the fight.  Zero combinations.  Go take a look on youtube with fighter/fan reactions after the fight.  Majority had Marquez winning or tim winning EXTREMELY close.  There are high level trainers and analyst.  

    This was a fixed fight.
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    I have no doubts this fight was rigged. 100% positive about this.  Tim Bradley didn't outbox or outwork JMM or dominate like they were trying to push on the audience.  Timmy lost the last three rounds and was running the majority of the fight.  Zero combinations.  Go take a look on youtube with fighter/fan reactions after the fight.  Majority had Marquez winning or tim winning EXTREMELY close.  There are high level trainers and analyst.  

    This was a fixed fight.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2013 - 2:59 AM ET #2

    JMM ladning ovver 100 puncher punches yet Tim was "so slick".  100% rigged fight. 
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    JMM ladning ovver 100 puncher punches yet Tim was "so slick".  100% rigged fight. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2013 - 3:44 AM ET #3

    You need help...start by leaving this forum!
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    You need help...start by leaving this forum!
     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2013 - 9:13 AM ET #4

    i told you to bet on the distance....rookie bettors never learn
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    i told you to bet on the distance....rookie bettors never learn
     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2013 - 1:48 PM ET #5

    Shut up you classless moron. I was on JMM also and have no problem with the decision. Scored it 114-114 so 115-113 for Bradley was fine. Pull your panties up and stop crying
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    Shut up you classless moron. I was on JMM also and have no problem with the decision. Scored it 114-114 so 115-113 for Bradley was fine. Pull your panties up and stop crying
     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2013 - 10:41 AM ET #6

    88 press row scores turned in.  4 scored it for Marquez.  

    You just can't take a loss like a man, and you single handedly made a joke of what was once a great forum.  
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    88 press row scores turned in.  4 scored it for Marquez.  

    You just can't take a loss like a man, and you single handedly made a joke of what was once a great forum.  
     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2013 - 6:36 PM ET #7

    can someone ban this fool already?  what more needs to be said?
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    can someone ban this fool already?  what more needs to be said?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2013 - 6:52 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerseyboy89:

    I have no doubts this fight was rigged. 100% positive about this.  Tim Bradley didn't outbox or outwork JMM or dominate like they were trying to push on the audience.  Timmy lost the last three rounds and was running the majority of the fight.  Zero combinations.  Go take a look on youtube with fighter/fan reactions after the fight.  Majority had Marquez winning or tim winning EXTREMELY close.  There are high level trainers and analyst.  

    This was a fixed fight.

    bradley outsmarted marquez and outboxed the cry baby
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerseyboy89:

    I have no doubts this fight was rigged. 100% positive about this.  Tim Bradley didn't outbox or outwork JMM or dominate like they were trying to push on the audience.  Timmy lost the last three rounds and was running the majority of the fight.  Zero combinations.  Go take a look on youtube with fighter/fan reactions after the fight.  Majority had Marquez winning or tim winning EXTREMELY close.  There are high level trainers and analyst.  

    This was a fixed fight.

    bradley outsmarted marquez and outboxed the cry baby
     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2013 - 4:58 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerseyboy89:

    I have no doubts this fight was rigged. 100% positive about this.  Tim Bradley didn't outbox or outwork JMM or dominate like they were trying to push on the audience.  Timmy lost the last three rounds and was running the majority of the fight.  Zero combinations.  Go take a look on youtube with fighter/fan reactions after the fight.  Majority had Marquez winning or tim winning EXTREMELY close.  There are high level trainers and analyst.  

    This was a fixed fight.

    Like the most common adage in boxing, Styles make Fights. Bradley is the naturally bigger man. He has a great work ethic and trains and fights has hard as almost anyone. His main strength is his jab that has dominated other opponents while lacking a heavy power punch. Fighting Marquez, hitting very hard is not the best way to beat him. Hitting him consistently and using a effective jab and footwork is the way. Bradley's fast jab, and good footwork allowed him to engage Marquez, without being countered. Chris John beat Marquez as did Floyd with speed and footwork. JMM is a master at timing and distance, but with constant movement and an effective jab takes away his strengths. Mayweather was much bigger as just 3 fights prior JMM was fighting 130lbs... Mayweather's comeback to no chances using the higher weight. He knocked JMM down easily, but realized knocking him out is a losing battle, therefore Mayweather just dominated in all areas.

    Vera losingto Chavez Jr was all money. I stated in other posts, Chavez Jr with the name and his aggressive style draws millions of Mexican fans and also US fans. Vera has no draw. That was a fight determined by money. Oscar prior fighting Hopkins, beat Sturm on the scorecards, but he lost the fight and his face showed it. If he lost, the MEGA PPV Event with Hopkins is gone (which ended up top 30 buy rate with over a million).

    Back to JMM, his age, increase in weight class has diminshed the first two things to go on an aging boxer... speed and reflexes. Bradley is an over-achiever but also over-rated.

    Jersey, it is clear you can't tell the difference between a fixed, bad or close fight. It was a close fight, but it appeared Bradley maintained control. Compubox stats were such...

    Bradley Landed 168 at 30%, Marquez 153 at 34%.

    As far as the last 3 rounds... that Stats were nearly identical. 54 landed Marquez, 53 Bradley. Bradley rounds 4,5,6,7 AND Marquez 9. 1,2,3,8,10,11,12 were nearly the same. I don't use compubox for outcomes after, but when the numbers show what the fight did... nd being so close... they are effective in that manner. This fight shows how close it was each round, not just the final number.

    From all your bad inaacurate posts, learn that close fights can be scored either way. Bad fights like Vera-Chavez Jr, are money fights... meaning the decision is given before the fight as Vera draws 1% and Chavez 99% the fan money. The Mayweather fight had a judge known for consistently awarding draws, thus in the context she was paid to do so. If the fight was close, she would have still had a draw, thus hoping a judges split and you have a rematch... that's all money. She is put there for that reason, and clearly this is the case for many fights. a Canelo rematch or Trilogy makes record high money... one fight allows them to figure where they can make the most money with another opponent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerseyboy89:

    I have no doubts this fight was rigged. 100% positive about this.  Tim Bradley didn't outbox or outwork JMM or dominate like they were trying to push on the audience.  Timmy lost the last three rounds and was running the majority of the fight.  Zero combinations.  Go take a look on youtube with fighter/fan reactions after the fight.  Majority had Marquez winning or tim winning EXTREMELY close.  There are high level trainers and analyst.  

    This was a fixed fight.

    Like the most common adage in boxing, Styles make Fights. Bradley is the naturally bigger man. He has a great work ethic and trains and fights has hard as almost anyone. His main strength is his jab that has dominated other opponents while lacking a heavy power punch. Fighting Marquez, hitting very hard is not the best way to beat him. Hitting him consistently and using a effective jab and footwork is the way. Bradley's fast jab, and good footwork allowed him to engage Marquez, without being countered. Chris John beat Marquez as did Floyd with speed and footwork. JMM is a master at timing and distance, but with constant movement and an effective jab takes away his strengths. Mayweather was much bigger as just 3 fights prior JMM was fighting 130lbs... Mayweather's comeback to no chances using the higher weight. He knocked JMM down easily, but realized knocking him out is a losing battle, therefore Mayweather just dominated in all areas.

    Vera losingto Chavez Jr was all money. I stated in other posts, Chavez Jr with the name and his aggressive style draws millions of Mexican fans and also US fans. Vera has no draw. That was a fight determined by money. Oscar prior fighting Hopkins, beat Sturm on the scorecards, but he lost the fight and his face showed it. If he lost, the MEGA PPV Event with Hopkins is gone (which ended up top 30 buy rate with over a million).

    Back to JMM, his age, increase in weight class has diminshed the first two things to go on an aging boxer... speed and reflexes. Bradley is an over-achiever but also over-rated.

    Jersey, it is clear you can't tell the difference between a fixed, bad or close fight. It was a close fight, but it appeared Bradley maintained control. Compubox stats were such...

    Bradley Landed 168 at 30%, Marquez 153 at 34%.

    As far as the last 3 rounds... that Stats were nearly identical. 54 landed Marquez, 53 Bradley. Bradley rounds 4,5,6,7 AND Marquez 9. 1,2,3,8,10,11,12 were nearly the same. I don't use compubox for outcomes after, but when the numbers show what the fight did... nd being so close... they are effective in that manner. This fight shows how close it was each round, not just the final number.

    From all your bad inaacurate posts, learn that close fights can be scored either way. Bad fights like Vera-Chavez Jr, are money fights... meaning the decision is given before the fight as Vera draws 1% and Chavez 99% the fan money. The Mayweather fight had a judge known for consistently awarding draws, thus in the context she was paid to do so. If the fight was close, she would have still had a draw, thus hoping a judges split and you have a rematch... that's all money. She is put there for that reason, and clearly this is the case for many fights. a Canelo rematch or Trilogy makes record high money... one fight allows them to figure where they can make the most money with another opponent.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2013 - 3:11 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by Big_ROn:

    i told you to bet on the distance....rookie bettors never learn

    Told everyone the same thing lol why pick a winner in a very close match up when you already know its going to the cards? 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big_ROn:

    i told you to bet on the distance....rookie bettors never learn

    Told everyone the same thing lol why pick a winner in a very close match up when you already know its going to the cards? 
     
     
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    I can't believe this guy is not banned yet . 
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