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    Floyd Mayweather Jr knows Canelo more than Canelo knows himself!

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    Jerseyboy89
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    Posted: Jul. 29, 2013 - 1:01 AM ET #1

    I want you to think about that folks!

    Floyd Mayweather has seen and watched Canelo fight before. He knows his style, he's faced it before, and he knows everything about Canelo.  Canelo doesn't even know who he is as a fighter yet!  But FLoyd knows

    Has Canelo seen ANYTHING like Floyd before?  Nope.  But deep down he thinks he can win. He thinks he has the power and speed to win.  BUt he hasn't SEEN anything like it before.  That will be his downfall in this fight!

    Floyd hasn't lost a step a all! In fact he's way more dangerous than ever.  He's ADDED many things to his offensive attack and to top it off he now has widsom and exp that is UNTOUCHED.  

    You make any mistakes you MUST PAY.  Canelo flat footed, slow footspeed, and gasses.  Sorry my friend, combine that with your inexperience, I'm 100% sure you're getting stopped! Mark it down folks.  Mayweather by KO has dropped to +640..people know the deal.  Canela doesn't see the final bell! That's a god damn promise, folks!
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    I want you to think about that folks!

    Floyd Mayweather has seen and watched Canelo fight before. He knows his style, he's faced it before, and he knows everything about Canelo.  Canelo doesn't even know who he is as a fighter yet!  But FLoyd knows

    Has Canelo seen ANYTHING like Floyd before?  Nope.  But deep down he thinks he can win. He thinks he has the power and speed to win.  BUt he hasn't SEEN anything like it before.  That will be his downfall in this fight!

    Floyd hasn't lost a step a all! In fact he's way more dangerous than ever.  He's ADDED many things to his offensive attack and to top it off he now has widsom and exp that is UNTOUCHED.  

    You make any mistakes you MUST PAY.  Canelo flat footed, slow footspeed, and gasses.  Sorry my friend, combine that with your inexperience, I'm 100% sure you're getting stopped! Mark it down folks.  Mayweather by KO has dropped to +640..people know the deal.  Canela doesn't see the final bell! That's a god damn promise, folks!
     
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    Posted: Jul. 29, 2013 - 1:05 AM ET #2

    Canela will be nothing more than a student being taught a hard lesson here.  He will be taught and humbled about the fight game on Sept 14th.  He's way too raw MENTALLY.  
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    Canela will be nothing more than a student being taught a hard lesson here.  He will be taught and humbled about the fight game on Sept 14th.  He's way too raw MENTALLY.  
     
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    Posted: Jul. 29, 2013 - 11:41 PM ET #3

    Canelo has an under-rated boxing IQ. He's not as predictable as people think and most importantly, he has true power and is naturally bigger. Maybe not in height, but if you look at the faceoff pictures, Canelo's wrist bones and forearms are way bigger than Floyd's.
    Floyd Sr just relearned not to push for the KO if you're up on the scorecards. His fighter Mickey Bey was way ahead on the scorecards and before the last round Floyd Sr says, "If u go to the body you'll finish him." So Mickey Bey goes out and hurts Molina to the body, tries to finish him and ends up getting TKO'd himself.
    Floyd is too much of a "safety-first" fighter to try and KO the naturally bigger man. Why do think he switched trainers from his offensive-minded uncle to his defensive-minded father? There's a good chance Mayweather-Canelo turns into a defensive dud of a fight. That's another reason big money was spent on Garcia-Matthyse...so the casual fan doesn't leave with a bad taste in his mouth.
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    Canelo has an under-rated boxing IQ. He's not as predictable as people think and most importantly, he has true power and is naturally bigger. Maybe not in height, but if you look at the faceoff pictures, Canelo's wrist bones and forearms are way bigger than Floyd's.
    Floyd Sr just relearned not to push for the KO if you're up on the scorecards. His fighter Mickey Bey was way ahead on the scorecards and before the last round Floyd Sr says, "If u go to the body you'll finish him." So Mickey Bey goes out and hurts Molina to the body, tries to finish him and ends up getting TKO'd himself.
    Floyd is too much of a "safety-first" fighter to try and KO the naturally bigger man. Why do think he switched trainers from his offensive-minded uncle to his defensive-minded father? There's a good chance Mayweather-Canelo turns into a defensive dud of a fight. That's another reason big money was spent on Garcia-Matthyse...so the casual fan doesn't leave with a bad taste in his mouth.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2013 - 12:12 AM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by DatMofoThere85:

    Canelo has an under-rated boxing IQ. He's not as predictable as people think and most importantly, he has true power and is naturally bigger. Maybe not in height, but if you look at the faceoff pictures, Canelo's wrist bones and forearms are way bigger than Floyd's.
    Floyd Sr just relearned not to push for the KO if you're up on the scorecards. His fighter Mickey Bey was way ahead on the scorecards and before the last round Floyd Sr says, "If u go to the body you'll finish him." So Mickey Bey goes out and hurts Molina to the body, tries to finish him and ends up getting TKO'd himself.
    Floyd is too much of a "safety-first" fighter to try and KO the naturally bigger man. Why do think he switched trainers from his offensive-minded uncle to his defensive-minded father? There's a good chance Mayweather-Canelo turns into a defensive dud of a fight. That's another reason big money was spent on Garcia-Matthyse...so the casual fan doesn't leave with a bad taste in his mouth.

    You're full of garbage, buddy!

    First off Canelo fight game turns to garbage after the 3rd round! Go watch the tape!  Why did he go 12 rounds with matt Hatton if he has such good power?  

    Did you even watch the Mikey Bey fight?  ALL FIGHT, SR was telling Bey to keep his hands up because he's getting skinned with punches he doesn't want him to get caught.  The last round he told him he can finish him but to keep his damn hands up and he REITERATE that.  

    And he didn't actually switch trainers.  He still works with Roger and has his dad in camp working with him.  His dad is the best boxing trainer in the fight game.  

    Get your damn facts straight.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by DatMofoThere85:

    Canelo has an under-rated boxing IQ. He's not as predictable as people think and most importantly, he has true power and is naturally bigger. Maybe not in height, but if you look at the faceoff pictures, Canelo's wrist bones and forearms are way bigger than Floyd's.
    Floyd Sr just relearned not to push for the KO if you're up on the scorecards. His fighter Mickey Bey was way ahead on the scorecards and before the last round Floyd Sr says, "If u go to the body you'll finish him." So Mickey Bey goes out and hurts Molina to the body, tries to finish him and ends up getting TKO'd himself.
    Floyd is too much of a "safety-first" fighter to try and KO the naturally bigger man. Why do think he switched trainers from his offensive-minded uncle to his defensive-minded father? There's a good chance Mayweather-Canelo turns into a defensive dud of a fight. That's another reason big money was spent on Garcia-Matthyse...so the casual fan doesn't leave with a bad taste in his mouth.

    You're full of garbage, buddy!

    First off Canelo fight game turns to garbage after the 3rd round! Go watch the tape!  Why did he go 12 rounds with matt Hatton if he has such good power?  

    Did you even watch the Mikey Bey fight?  ALL FIGHT, SR was telling Bey to keep his hands up because he's getting skinned with punches he doesn't want him to get caught.  The last round he told him he can finish him but to keep his damn hands up and he REITERATE that.  

    And he didn't actually switch trainers.  He still works with Roger and has his dad in camp working with him.  His dad is the best boxing trainer in the fight game.  

    Get your damn facts straight.  
     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2013 - 1:40 AM ET #5

    Rebuttal to your first point: "Why did Floyd go the full 12 with CARLOS BALDOMIR! If you think Canelo is slow...

    2nd point: Anyone can get caught - ANYONE. Floyd's been buzzed or rocked a few times in his career himself and he has the best defense in the game. I favor Floyd to win but I highly doubt he wins by KO.

    3rd point: Its true that Roger is considered the co-trainer. But liitle Floyd and Sr refer to Sr as "head trainer". It's obvious Floyd Sr is leaving his imprint on JR. Little Floyd is utilizing more distance and lateral movement and not letting himself get cornered like he used to. Im too lazy to look up the exact Youtube links, but there are old interviews (pre Guerrero fight) where Roger is obviously mad that he's no longer "head trainer", and another (after Guerrero fight) where Floyd Sr says, "If Canelo wants the fight he has to come down to 150". The unreasonable weight loss demand is a sign of fear on the part of Sr. Its unlikely that the gameplan is to force the KO. Like I said on another thread, Floyd had Cotto staggered in the last round and didn't go for the kill. That says it all.


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    Rebuttal to your first point: "Why did Floyd go the full 12 with CARLOS BALDOMIR! If you think Canelo is slow...

    2nd point: Anyone can get caught - ANYONE. Floyd's been buzzed or rocked a few times in his career himself and he has the best defense in the game. I favor Floyd to win but I highly doubt he wins by KO.

    3rd point: Its true that Roger is considered the co-trainer. But liitle Floyd and Sr refer to Sr as "head trainer". It's obvious Floyd Sr is leaving his imprint on JR. Little Floyd is utilizing more distance and lateral movement and not letting himself get cornered like he used to. Im too lazy to look up the exact Youtube links, but there are old interviews (pre Guerrero fight) where Roger is obviously mad that he's no longer "head trainer", and another (after Guerrero fight) where Floyd Sr says, "If Canelo wants the fight he has to come down to 150". The unreasonable weight loss demand is a sign of fear on the part of Sr. Its unlikely that the gameplan is to force the KO. Like I said on another thread, Floyd had Cotto staggered in the last round and didn't go for the kill. That says it all.


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DatMofoThere85:

    Rebuttal to your first point: "Why did Floyd go the full 12 with CARLOS BALDOMIR! If you think Canelo is slow...

    2nd point: Anyone can get caught - ANYONE. Floyd's been buzzed or rocked a few times in his career himself and he has the best defense in the game. I favor Floyd to win but I highly doubt he wins by KO.

    3rd point: Its true that Roger is considered the co-trainer. But liitle Floyd and Sr refer to Sr as "head trainer". It's obvious Floyd Sr is leaving his imprint on JR. Little Floyd is utilizing more distance and lateral movement and not letting himself get cornered like he used to. Im too lazy to look up the exact Youtube links, but there are old interviews (pre Guerrero fight) where Roger is obviously mad that he's no longer "head trainer", and another (after Guerrero fight) where Floyd Sr says, "If Canelo wants the fight he has to come down to 150". The unreasonable weight loss demand is a sign of fear on the part of Sr. Its unlikely that the gameplan is to force the KO. Like I said on another thread, Floyd had Cotto staggered in the last round and didn't go for the kill. That says it all.



    1) Didn't I tell you this already?  Floyd is more dangerous RIGHT NOW then 5-6 years ago when he fought Baldomir!  Get that through your head.  Also, Baldomir is a more aggresive fighter than Canelo

    3)Sr is the head trainer because he's the one in the corner with him.  Roger still works with Floyd with the mitt work.  And Roger was never mad....that was an exaggeration by the media.  I know exactly the video your talking about.  Floyd fighting GUerrero like he did means nothing vs Canelo.  THey are TWO DIFFRENT FIGHTERS.  Get that through your head.  Guerrero is super aggresive.  CAnelo is not.  Floyd had him staggered but not seriously hurt.  Did you miss how he had him staggered? By giving him a nice hook upercut....TWO timesi n a row.  

    BTW, Floyd stood right in front of Guerrero for about 80% of the fight.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by DatMofoThere85:

    Rebuttal to your first point: "Why did Floyd go the full 12 with CARLOS BALDOMIR! If you think Canelo is slow...

    2nd point: Anyone can get caught - ANYONE. Floyd's been buzzed or rocked a few times in his career himself and he has the best defense in the game. I favor Floyd to win but I highly doubt he wins by KO.

    3rd point: Its true that Roger is considered the co-trainer. But liitle Floyd and Sr refer to Sr as "head trainer". It's obvious Floyd Sr is leaving his imprint on JR. Little Floyd is utilizing more distance and lateral movement and not letting himself get cornered like he used to. Im too lazy to look up the exact Youtube links, but there are old interviews (pre Guerrero fight) where Roger is obviously mad that he's no longer "head trainer", and another (after Guerrero fight) where Floyd Sr says, "If Canelo wants the fight he has to come down to 150". The unreasonable weight loss demand is a sign of fear on the part of Sr. Its unlikely that the gameplan is to force the KO. Like I said on another thread, Floyd had Cotto staggered in the last round and didn't go for the kill. That says it all.



    1) Didn't I tell you this already?  Floyd is more dangerous RIGHT NOW then 5-6 years ago when he fought Baldomir!  Get that through your head.  Also, Baldomir is a more aggresive fighter than Canelo

    3)Sr is the head trainer because he's the one in the corner with him.  Roger still works with Floyd with the mitt work.  And Roger was never mad....that was an exaggeration by the media.  I know exactly the video your talking about.  Floyd fighting GUerrero like he did means nothing vs Canelo.  THey are TWO DIFFRENT FIGHTERS.  Get that through your head.  Guerrero is super aggresive.  CAnelo is not.  Floyd had him staggered but not seriously hurt.  Did you miss how he had him staggered? By giving him a nice hook upercut....TWO timesi n a row.  

    BTW, Floyd stood right in front of Guerrero for about 80% of the fight.  
     
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    Posted: Jul. 30, 2013 - 2:33 AM ET #7

    If Mayweather can stagger a big cotto, hurt Guerrero, why do you think he can't stop Canela..who has poor stamina and doesn't have the experience or mental fortitude to survive.
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    If Mayweather can stagger a big cotto, hurt Guerrero, why do you think he can't stop Canela..who has poor stamina and doesn't have the experience or mental fortitude to survive.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DatMofoThere85:

    Rebuttal to your first point: "Why did Floyd go the full 12 with CARLOS BALDOMIR! If you think Canelo is slow...

    2nd point: Anyone can get caught - ANYONE. Floyd's been buzzed or rocked a few times in his career himself and he has the best defense in the game. I favor Floyd to win but I highly doubt he wins by KO.

    3rd point: Its true that Roger is considered the co-trainer. But liitle Floyd and Sr refer to Sr as "head trainer". It's obvious Floyd Sr is leaving his imprint on JR. Little Floyd is utilizing more distance and lateral movement and not letting himself get cornered like he used to. Im too lazy to look up the exact Youtube links, but there are old interviews (pre Guerrero fight) where Roger is obviously mad that he's no longer "head trainer", and another (after Guerrero fight) where Floyd Sr says, "If Canelo wants the fight he has to come down to 150". The unreasonable weight loss demand is a sign of fear on the part of Sr. Its unlikely that the gameplan is to force the KO. Like I said on another thread, Floyd had Cotto staggered in the last round and didn't go for the kill. That says it all.



    Canelo has to come down to 152 not 150. 
    2lbs not 4lbs

    May could've dictated it to 150 lbs but didn't

    Great insight from both of you 
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    Quote Originally Posted by DatMofoThere85:

    Rebuttal to your first point: "Why did Floyd go the full 12 with CARLOS BALDOMIR! If you think Canelo is slow...

    2nd point: Anyone can get caught - ANYONE. Floyd's been buzzed or rocked a few times in his career himself and he has the best defense in the game. I favor Floyd to win but I highly doubt he wins by KO.

    3rd point: Its true that Roger is considered the co-trainer. But liitle Floyd and Sr refer to Sr as "head trainer". It's obvious Floyd Sr is leaving his imprint on JR. Little Floyd is utilizing more distance and lateral movement and not letting himself get cornered like he used to. Im too lazy to look up the exact Youtube links, but there are old interviews (pre Guerrero fight) where Roger is obviously mad that he's no longer "head trainer", and another (after Guerrero fight) where Floyd Sr says, "If Canelo wants the fight he has to come down to 150". The unreasonable weight loss demand is a sign of fear on the part of Sr. Its unlikely that the gameplan is to force the KO. Like I said on another thread, Floyd had Cotto staggered in the last round and didn't go for the kill. That says it all.



    Canelo has to come down to 152 not 150. 
    2lbs not 4lbs

    May could've dictated it to 150 lbs but didn't

    Great insight from both of you 
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DatMofoThere85:

    Canelo has an under-rated boxing IQ. He's not as predictable as people think and most importantly, he has true power and is naturally bigger. Maybe not in height, but if you look at the faceoff pictures, Canelo's wrist bones and forearms are way bigger than Floyd's.
    Floyd Sr just relearned not to push for the KO if you're up on the scorecards. His fighter Mickey Bey was way ahead on the scorecards and before the last round Floyd Sr says, "If u go to the body you'll finish him." So Mickey Bey goes out and hurts Molina to the body, tries to finish him and ends up getting TKO'd himself.
    Floyd is too much of a "safety-first" fighter to try and KO the naturally bigger man. Why do think he switched trainers from his offensive-minded uncle to his defensive-minded father? There's a good chance Mayweather-Canelo turns into a defensive dud of a fight. That's another reason big money was spent on Garcia-Matthyse...so the casual fan doesn't leave with a bad taste in his mouth.
    have to agree the eye to eye stare down was where it really seemed apparent just how much bigger Canelo is  - for me I worry as much about Father Time (undefeated )
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    Quote Originally Posted by DatMofoThere85:

    Canelo has an under-rated boxing IQ. He's not as predictable as people think and most importantly, he has true power and is naturally bigger. Maybe not in height, but if you look at the faceoff pictures, Canelo's wrist bones and forearms are way bigger than Floyd's.
    Floyd Sr just relearned not to push for the KO if you're up on the scorecards. His fighter Mickey Bey was way ahead on the scorecards and before the last round Floyd Sr says, "If u go to the body you'll finish him." So Mickey Bey goes out and hurts Molina to the body, tries to finish him and ends up getting TKO'd himself.
    Floyd is too much of a "safety-first" fighter to try and KO the naturally bigger man. Why do think he switched trainers from his offensive-minded uncle to his defensive-minded father? There's a good chance Mayweather-Canelo turns into a defensive dud of a fight. That's another reason big money was spent on Garcia-Matthyse...so the casual fan doesn't leave with a bad taste in his mouth.
    have to agree the eye to eye stare down was where it really seemed apparent just how much bigger Canelo is  - for me I worry as much about Father Time (undefeated )
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