Freddie Roach contradicting Himself AGAIN!

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Here&#x27;s Freddie before Shane looked bad in his last two fights.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBWNOyrHKKo  (Skip ahead to 6:57 into the segment).He explains why he won&#x27;t do a catch weight, with Shane but did with Oscar.Shane Publicly went on ESPN FNF saying he will sign at 140. Freddie also states Manny is not really a 147 fighter and that 147 is too large, yet you fight a "Large Clottey and Maragrito (at 154 none the less)". Here&#x27;s Freddie Roach right after Pac-man beat Margarito.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjhxfqgB9vkFreddy Roach I know it&#x27;s a business but saying you can make twice as much fighting Cotto than Mosley is B.S. Now after Shane looked like crap his past 2 fights... Roach sees this as an excellent opportunity to grab another 30&#x2B; million.I know this is a business but c&#x27;mon man stop cherry picking his opponents. I don&#x27;t blame Manny Pacquio at all I blame Freddie Roach. Pacquio is a warrior in the ring but I don&#x27;t think he sees how Freddie  is making him look to many boxing fans. Floyd isn&#x27;t going to happen, Give us Marquez III at least he deserves it even if he&#x27;s long in the tooth. See you all in 2011! :)

nuttyrich · Answer

Here&#x27;s Freddie before Shane looked bad in his last two fights.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBWNOyrHKKo  (Skip ahead to 6:57 into the segment).He explains why he won&#x27;t do a catch weight, with Shane but did with Oscar.Shane Publicly went on ESPN FNF saying he will sign at 140. Freddie also states Manny is not really a 147 fighter and that 147 is too large, yet you fight a "Large Clottey and Maragrito (at 154 none the less)". Here&#x27;s Freddie Roach right after Pac-man beat Margarito.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjhxfqgB9vkFreddy Roach I know it&#x27;s a business but saying you can make twice as much fighting Cotto than Mosley is B.S. Now after Shane looked like crap his past 2 fights... Roach sees this as an excellent opportunity to grab another 30&#x2B; million.I know this is a business but c&#x27;mon man stop cherry picking his opponents. I don&#x27;t blame Manny Pacquio at all I blame Freddie Roach. Pacquio is a warrior in the ring but I don&#x27;t think he sees how Freddie  is making him look to many boxing fans. Floyd isn&#x27;t going to happen, Give us Marquez III at least he deserves it even if he&#x27;s long in the tooth. See you all in 2011! :)

CHITOWNODAWG · Answer

Joke coach Freddie Roach spewing more bullshit, him and Bob Arum are both wind bags, any real boxing fans can see this bullshit Manny and his team are doing. He needs to fight guys who are in thier prime or at least hot in the div before he commands the title of one of the best ever. Manny&#x27;s new years resolution should be to fight someone who isn&#x27;t old battered and tired in 2011.

walktheline · Answer

Like Berto? Happy New Year gents.

marvelous_1 · Answer

.. too much hatin&#x27; in you bro. oh yeah by the way where is your dog FRAUD GAYWEATHER , fuckin&#x27; bitch still hiding huh ...

marvelous_1 · Answer

FRAUD WILL BE FIGHTHING THIS MARCH AGAINST 0-7 SECURITY GUARD , HE&#x27;S ON A ROLL HE JUST BEAT UP 54YRS OLD SECURITY GUARD &amp; HIS EX BITCH RYT ? WHAT A ROLL MODEL

marvelous_1 · Answer

OOPS ROLE MODEL ...

Cixelsyd · Answer

Who said anything about Floyd Mayweather?  Have to love these Pacquiao fanboys.  Their number 1 defense of what Pacquaio is doing, is bringing up what Mayweather is doing.  Pathetic.

LuckyLuke · Answer

I am sure Roach can speak his opinion but i doubt he has much to say who pac will fight. Arum is not stupid + he pays top $$ to his match makers. I am sure they are earning their money. SO does Roach by training not picking opponents.

Mack05 · Answer

Sadly Rich boxing is becoming more and more of a business. I mean look at David Haye. He does a remarkable job of selling a fight with Audley Harrison. A guy thats been exposed at domestic level, who wasn't ranked in the top 10 of ANY boxing organisation yet makes 5 million (sterling at least!) of out a fight he had no chance of losing. When Haye orgiinally signed to fight Klitscko it was all for the hype. He never had any intention of actually fighting Wlad. He was getting a crap deal and when his backers Setanta went bust, he all of a sudden gets a back injury.

Himself and Adam Booth then do a rethink after pulling out of the second Klitscko fight. They seal the Valuev fight (which made huge money in the UK) and then he fights Ruiz and Harrison. 2 guys he easily beat and made alot of money doing it. Now all of a sudden he is negotiating 50/50 with Wlad (before he wanted more, because of UK television money). Why? because he knows Wlad is the only fight left for him. There are no other fights that are easy that he can make big money on, so he adds extra pressure on Wlad and says he will retire this year. Wlad will bite and the fight will be made.

The point I am making is this. Win or lose against Wlad and Haye has made as much money as he possibly could out of boxing. Yet who has he fought!?? He has made millions from fighting bums instead of testing himself against guys like Adamek, Chambers, Arreola etc etc. Haye like a lot of boxers is a businessman first and fighter second. We the public are the idiots that keep lining these frauds pockets. Haye will have made over 20 million from boxing by the time he is done and he will probaboly have had to had 2 hard fights (Tony Thompson and Wlad, although an argument can be made for the Mormeck fight)..

You then look at Pacquaio. He will have fought 3 Floyd victims (De LaHoya, Hatton and Mosley) after Floyd fought them and after these fighters are miles past their sell by dates. I mean if Pacquaio can make 25 million for fighting Mosley a fight he can't lose, why take a more dangerous fight for less money (Berto, Bradley etc)???Or why fight against Floyd for 15 million more when you can beat guys like Margerito, Mosley, Cotto. Clottley and make more money, with less risk to your legacy. The problem is not Roach or Arum Rich. The problem is the boxing public who when they see this fights anounced are digusted, only to fall for the hype of a bad Pacquaio training camp in 24/7 and have the promoters convince them this is a competeive fight buy it (which they do), when in reality the fight will not be in any competitive. Manny, Roach and Arum then laugh all the way to the bank.

As for Floyd it's clear he is having some sort of breakdown. There is a chance he could be going to jail. Having said that for a guy that hasn't fought in nearly a year he is doing a great job of keeping himself in the news. Expect Floyd to fight a safety first fight in Decemeber against a washed up guy and then announce his retirement in 2012. His heart isn't in the fight game anymore...

The bottom line is that Floyd and Manny would have been the biggest fight of our generation, yet because boxing being a business and the public falling for con after con, bad matchup after bad matchup, both these guys will retire without ever facing their biggest challenge and we (the boxing public) are the fools that fell for the propaganda and spin of various promoters...

It leaves me with a sour taste in the mouth...Let's hope the new generation of fighters like Gamboa, Lopez, Khan, Bradley will not hide behind promoters and finally give the fans with they truly deserve. Here is hoping. Let's hope for more boxers like Martinez, Glen Johnson, Carl Froch and less of the Haye's, Mayweathers and Pacquaio's (Ward and Bute could be the new frauds, fight at home on their terms against weak opponents). Its fighters and promoters like these that are ruining the sport we love...

Happy new year to you all...

Mack05 · Answer

I mean Carl not Tony Thompson..

walktheline · Answer

[Quote: Originally Posted by Mack05] &#xD;&#xA;Sadly Rich boxing is becoming more and more of a business. I mean look at David Haye. He does a remarkable job of selling a fight with Audley Harrison. A guy thats been exposed at domestic level, who wasn&#x27;t ranked in the top 10 of ANY boxing organisation yet makes 5 million (sterling at least!) of out a fight he had no chance of losing. When Haye orgiinally signed to fight Klitscko it was all for the hype. He never had any intention of actually fighting Wlad. He was getting a crap deal and when his backers Setanta went bust, he all of a sudden gets a back injury. &#xD;&#xA;Himself and Adam Booth then do a rethink after pulling out of the second Klitscko fight. They seal the Valuev fight (which made huge money in the UK) and then he fights Ruiz and Harrison. 2 guys he easily beat and made alot of money doing it. Now all of a sudden he is negotiating 50/50 with Wlad (before he wanted more, because of UK television money). Why? because he knows Wlad is the only fight left for him. There are no other fights that are easy that he can make big money on, so he adds extra pressure on Wlad and says he will retire this year. Wlad will bite and the fight will be made.&#xD;&#xA;The point I am making is this. Win or lose against Wlad and Haye has made as much money as he possibly could out of boxing. Yet who has he fought!?? He has made millions from fighting bums instead of testing himself against guys like Adamek, Chambers, Arreola etc etc. Haye like a lot of boxers is a businessman first and fighter second. We the public are the idiots that keep lining these frauds pockets. Haye will have made over 20 million from boxing by the time he is done and he will probaboly have had to had 2 hard fights (Tony Thompson and Wlad, although an argument can be made for the Mormeck fight)..&#xD;&#xA;You then look at Pacquaio. He will have fought 3 Floyd victims (De LaHoya, Hatton and Mosley) after Floyd fought them and after these fighters are miles past their sell by dates. I mean if Pacquaio can make 25 million for fighting Mosley a fight he can&#x27;t lose, why take a more dangerous fight for less money (Berto, Bradley etc)???Or why fight against Floyd for 15 million more when you can beat guys like Margerito, Mosley, Cotto. Clottley and make more money, with less risk to your legacy. The problem is not Roach or Arum Rich. The problem is the boxing public who when they see this fights anounced are digusted, only to fall for the hype of a bad Pacquaio training camp in 24/7 and have the promoters convince them this is a competeive fight buy it (which they do), when in reality the fight will not be in any competitive. Manny, Roach and Arum then laugh all the way to the bank. &#xD;&#xA;As for Floyd it&#x27;s clear he is having some sort of breakdown. There is a chance he could be going to jail. Having said that for a guy that hasn&#x27;t fought in nearly a year he is doing a great job of keeping himself in the news. Expect Floyd to fight a safety first fight in Decemeber against a washed up guy and then announce his retirement in 2012. His heart isn&#x27;t in the fight game anymore...&#xD;&#xA;The bottom line is that Floyd and Manny would have been the biggest fight of our generation, yet because boxing being a business and the public falling for con after con, bad matchup after bad matchup, both these guys will retire without ever facing their biggest challenge and we (the boxing public) are the fools that fell for the propaganda and spin of various promoters...&#xD;&#xA;It leaves me with a sour taste in the mouth...Let&#x27;s hope the new generation of fighters like Gamboa, Lopez, Khan, Bradley will not hide behind promoters and finally give the fans with they truly deserve. Here is hoping. Let&#x27;s hope for more boxers like Martinez, Glen Johnson, Carl Froch and less of the Haye&#x27;s, Mayweathers and Pacquaio&#x27;s (Ward and Bute could be the new frauds, fight at home on their terms against weak opponents). Its fighters and promoters like these that are ruining the sport we love...&#xD;&#xA;Happy new year to you all...&#xD;&#xA;[/Quote]&#xD;&#xA;Not sure I&#x27;ve seen the current state of boxing summed up so well. Great to hear from you again, and I hope you&#x27;re ready for another excellent year in 2011.

Freddie Roach contradicting Himself AGAIN!

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