I sent several of the regulars what I thought about this fight. The odds are way off here, and I'm going to wager several months worth of bets on this one. I'm very confident that this is a can't miss pick.
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Verquan Kimbrough +160 vs Jason Litzau
I sent several of the regulars what I thought about this fight. The odds are way off here, and I'm going to wager several months worth of bets on this one. I'm very confident that this is a can't miss pick.
I sent several of the regulars what I thought about this fight. The odds are way off here, and I'm going to wager several months worth of bets on this one. I'm very confident that this is a can't miss pick.
I'll look into it. Don't know a damn thing about Kimbrough.
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Quote Originally Posted by walktheline:
Verquan Kimbrough +160 vs Jason Litzau
I sent several of the regulars what I thought about this fight. The odds are way off here, and I'm going to wager several months worth of bets on this one. I'm very confident that this is a can't miss pick.
I'll look into it. Don't know a damn thing about Kimbrough.
WTL: Like I told you man, don't really agree, but I will be pulling for you because it sounds like you are heavily invested. Litzau's biggest flaw is his chin and Verquan doesn't pack that much of a punch.
Any definitive word on the length of this one? 5dimes has it at 10 rounds for all the outcome props, but boxrec still has it listed as a 12 rounder.
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WTL: Like I told you man, don't really agree, but I will be pulling for you because it sounds like you are heavily invested. Litzau's biggest flaw is his chin and Verquan doesn't pack that much of a punch.
Any definitive word on the length of this one? 5dimes has it at 10 rounds for all the outcome props, but boxrec still has it listed as a 12 rounder.
walk the line i hope you have seen kimbrough fight in person before. if you have not you are going to be extremely disappointed. i hope you didnt bet a dime on the kid. i guarantee he will not win this fight.
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walk the line i hope you have seen kimbrough fight in person before. if you have not you are going to be extremely disappointed. i hope you didnt bet a dime on the kid. i guarantee he will not win this fight.
Fight is at 135 Litzau has a bad chin and never fought at this weight before not saying I have a strong feel either way but I don't think Litzau should be such a big favorite
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Fight is at 135 Litzau has a bad chin and never fought at this weight before not saying I have a strong feel either way but I don't think Litzau should be such a big favorite
All I can see is what boxrec.com has.. and well Litzau has been kocked out twice, granted he stepped up in competition and got knocked out by Robert Guerro, but he was winning a fight against Jose Hernandez and got knocked out, so weak chin definitely.
Also what I see is Litzau is the one moving up in weight he only has fought once at this weight where as Kimbrough has been there for a while.
I think Fullbrights said Kimbrough isn't a big puncher, but being the naturally bigger guy.. might help him + weak chin of Liqzau.
I can only say like everyone else, I will be rooting for you to win, I truly don't know enough about either fighter to be wagering a cent.
All the best, wish I had more insight in this fight.
-Rich
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All I can see is what boxrec.com has.. and well Litzau has been kocked out twice, granted he stepped up in competition and got knocked out by Robert Guerro, but he was winning a fight against Jose Hernandez and got knocked out, so weak chin definitely.
Also what I see is Litzau is the one moving up in weight he only has fought once at this weight where as Kimbrough has been there for a while.
I think Fullbrights said Kimbrough isn't a big puncher, but being the naturally bigger guy.. might help him + weak chin of Liqzau.
I can only say like everyone else, I will be rooting for you to win, I truly don't know enough about either fighter to be wagering a cent.
All the best, wish I had more insight in this fight.
verquan is so protected he could've been stopped numerous times at mountaineer but they would rule a knockdown a slip and then give him a minute to recover. the man can not take a punch. verquan has a very weak chin and wears down quickly. I have seen him fight 15 times in person he is nowhere near what he is cracked up to be. Litzau should be -500 you will see. And i dont think Litzau is anything special. Kimbrough will not hear the final bell. I'd be shocked if he makes it 5 rounds.
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verquan is so protected he could've been stopped numerous times at mountaineer but they would rule a knockdown a slip and then give him a minute to recover. the man can not take a punch. verquan has a very weak chin and wears down quickly. I have seen him fight 15 times in person he is nowhere near what he is cracked up to be. Litzau should be -500 you will see. And i dont think Litzau is anything special. Kimbrough will not hear the final bell. I'd be shocked if he makes it 5 rounds.
you will not believe how bad verquans chin is tomorrow night. marty robbins dropped him 3 times in the 10th round and i believe 2 other times but they counted them as slips and the ref pulled him off the canvas and then gave him 30 seconds to recover. then verquan after the fight sat on his stool for 15 minutes before going back to the dressing room and his people basically carried him. When he lost to Gonzalez they ruled the first 2 knockdowns slips and the ref tried calling the last knockdown (that resulted in a knockout) a slip but he couldn't hold verquan up. Mike Clark clearly beat Kimbrough. Dean White very possibly could've been given the decision against kimbrough and I was not at the Fagan fight but many people who went said Fagan clearly won.
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you will not believe how bad verquans chin is tomorrow night. marty robbins dropped him 3 times in the 10th round and i believe 2 other times but they counted them as slips and the ref pulled him off the canvas and then gave him 30 seconds to recover. then verquan after the fight sat on his stool for 15 minutes before going back to the dressing room and his people basically carried him. When he lost to Gonzalez they ruled the first 2 knockdowns slips and the ref tried calling the last knockdown (that resulted in a knockout) a slip but he couldn't hold verquan up. Mike Clark clearly beat Kimbrough. Dean White very possibly could've been given the decision against kimbrough and I was not at the Fagan fight but many people who went said Fagan clearly won.
verquan is so protected he could've been stopped numerous times at mountaineer but they would rule a knockdown a slip and then give him a minute to recover. the man can not take a punch. verquan has a very weak chin and wears down quickly. I have seen him fight 15 times in person he is nowhere near what he is cracked up to be. Litzau should be -500 you will see. And i dont think Litzau is anything special. Kimbrough will not hear the final bell. I'd be shocked if he makes it 5 rounds.
Yeah, he definitely got every bit of hometown advantage fighting at Mountaineer. I backed him at even odds against Clark because of this, thinking he would at least out-throw the older man and get every benefit of the doubt on the cards. I heard that he was very lucky to escape with the draw. I never will forget how bad Verquan struggled with Dean White, who was just an every day run of the mill club guy. It was a 6 rounder carried by Versus on the same card where Tommy Morrison came back.
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Quote Originally Posted by Bamboa:
verquan is so protected he could've been stopped numerous times at mountaineer but they would rule a knockdown a slip and then give him a minute to recover. the man can not take a punch. verquan has a very weak chin and wears down quickly. I have seen him fight 15 times in person he is nowhere near what he is cracked up to be. Litzau should be -500 you will see. And i dont think Litzau is anything special. Kimbrough will not hear the final bell. I'd be shocked if he makes it 5 rounds.
Yeah, he definitely got every bit of hometown advantage fighting at Mountaineer. I backed him at even odds against Clark because of this, thinking he would at least out-throw the older man and get every benefit of the doubt on the cards. I heard that he was very lucky to escape with the draw. I never will forget how bad Verquan struggled with Dean White, who was just an every day run of the mill club guy. It was a 6 rounder carried by Versus on the same card where Tommy Morrison came back.
you will not believe how bad verquans chin is tomorrow night. marty robbins dropped him 3 times in the 10th round and i believe 2 other times but they counted them as slips and the ref pulled him off the canvas and then gave him 30 seconds to recover. then verquan after the fight sat on his stool for 15 minutes before going back to the dressing room and his people basically carried him. When he lost to Gonzalez they ruled the first 2 knockdowns slips and the ref tried calling the last knockdown (that resulted in a knockout) a slip but he couldn't hold verquan up. Mike Clark clearly beat Kimbrough. Dean White very possibly could've been given the decision against kimbrough and I was not at the Fagan fight but many people who went said Fagan clearly won.
Wow great info!
Leave it to Roy Jones.. to put this fight together!
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Quote Originally Posted by Bamboa:
you will not believe how bad verquans chin is tomorrow night. marty robbins dropped him 3 times in the 10th round and i believe 2 other times but they counted them as slips and the ref pulled him off the canvas and then gave him 30 seconds to recover. then verquan after the fight sat on his stool for 15 minutes before going back to the dressing room and his people basically carried him. When he lost to Gonzalez they ruled the first 2 knockdowns slips and the ref tried calling the last knockdown (that resulted in a knockout) a slip but he couldn't hold verquan up. Mike Clark clearly beat Kimbrough. Dean White very possibly could've been given the decision against kimbrough and I was not at the Fagan fight but many people who went said Fagan clearly won.
Wow great info!
Leave it to Roy Jones.. to put this fight together!
Sorry, WTL. That was brutally one sided and the same Kimbrough against Deano White. Tough when you get out of the friendly confines of Mountaineer against a decent enough fighter. I hate it for you man, just learn from it and don't trust those sources again.
Bamboa: Spot on man, that's what first hand viewing does for you. Good work.
On a side note, what a retarded interview by Litzau.
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Sorry, WTL. That was brutally one sided and the same Kimbrough against Deano White. Tough when you get out of the friendly confines of Mountaineer against a decent enough fighter. I hate it for you man, just learn from it and don't trust those sources again.
Bamboa: Spot on man, that's what first hand viewing does for you. Good work.
On a side note, what a retarded interview by Litzau.
Sorry, WTL. That was brutally one sided and the same Kimbrough against Deano White. Tough when you get out of the friendly confines of Mountaineer against a decent enough fighter. I hate it for you man, just learn from it and don't trust those sources again.
Bamboa: Spot on man, that's what first hand viewing does for you. Good work.
On a side note, what a retarded interview by Litzau.
Hell, I'll have to back the dopes. The logic was correct, but I was very, VERY, wrong. So now they have a dead fighter with two fights on his contract. Don't know, but even the best of the best really don't have a clue.
On a side note, an early Lacy luckbox stoppage gets me on the right side.
Fuck.
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Quote Originally Posted by Fullbrights:
Sorry, WTL. That was brutally one sided and the same Kimbrough against Deano White. Tough when you get out of the friendly confines of Mountaineer against a decent enough fighter. I hate it for you man, just learn from it and don't trust those sources again.
Bamboa: Spot on man, that's what first hand viewing does for you. Good work.
On a side note, what a retarded interview by Litzau.
Hell, I'll have to back the dopes. The logic was correct, but I was very, VERY, wrong. So now they have a dead fighter with two fights on his contract. Don't know, but even the best of the best really don't have a clue.
On a side note, an early Lacy luckbox stoppage gets me on the right side.
you will not believe how bad verquans chin is tomorrow night. marty robbins dropped him 3 times in the 10th round and i believe 2 other times but they counted them as slips and the ref pulled him off the canvas and then gave him 30 seconds to recover. then verquan after the fight sat on his stool for 15 minutes before going back to the dressing room and his people basically carried him. When he lost to Gonzalez they ruled the first 2 knockdowns slips and the ref tried calling the last knockdown (that resulted in a knockout) a slip but he couldn't hold verquan up. Mike Clark clearly beat Kimbrough. Dean White very possibly could've been given the decision against kimbrough and I was not at the Fagan fight but many people who went said Fagan clearly won.
Bamboa You are very accurate with your assesment of the Kimbrough vs Dean White fight, I was in his corner and I couldn't believe he lost that fight, I figured we would atleast walk away with a Draw. We even tried to protest the no knock down in that fight but they wanted nothing to do with that. But that's ok because we might be getting another shot at Kimbrough in Nov, so if your looking to make some money take the underdog Dean White because this time he's not fighting in his backyard!!!!!!
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Quote Originally Posted by Bamboa:
you will not believe how bad verquans chin is tomorrow night. marty robbins dropped him 3 times in the 10th round and i believe 2 other times but they counted them as slips and the ref pulled him off the canvas and then gave him 30 seconds to recover. then verquan after the fight sat on his stool for 15 minutes before going back to the dressing room and his people basically carried him. When he lost to Gonzalez they ruled the first 2 knockdowns slips and the ref tried calling the last knockdown (that resulted in a knockout) a slip but he couldn't hold verquan up. Mike Clark clearly beat Kimbrough. Dean White very possibly could've been given the decision against kimbrough and I was not at the Fagan fight but many people who went said Fagan clearly won.
Bamboa You are very accurate with your assesment of the Kimbrough vs Dean White fight, I was in his corner and I couldn't believe he lost that fight, I figured we would atleast walk away with a Draw. We even tried to protest the no knock down in that fight but they wanted nothing to do with that. But that's ok because we might be getting another shot at Kimbrough in Nov, so if your looking to make some money take the underdog Dean White because this time he's not fighting in his backyard!!!!!!
Walktheline you and I have had previous but aside from all the rubbish I respect you. I am putting 10 US units on this bet blind. I no nothing about this but I think your a fine capper. Good enough for me.
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Walktheline you and I have had previous but aside from all the rubbish I respect you. I am putting 10 US units on this bet blind. I no nothing about this but I think your a fine capper. Good enough for me.
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