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    nuttyrich
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    Posted: Jul. 27, 2010 - 1:59 AM ET #1

    Joel Casamayor and Roberto Guerro have 71 fights between them they are BOTH south paws who have NEVER faced a south paw in their entire life.

    Yes Guerro fought a south paw in '02 but the guy was 18-38 and been knocked out 13 times.. and he WENT the distance with Guerro (This was a 6 rounder in '02) .

    This will be an interesting fight, Casamayor the BIGGER fighter, and I believe STILL faster hand speed than Guerro even at 39.

    What can we expect out of two south paws?

    I see no line yet, but believe Guerro will be about -165 due to the fact people feel Casamayor is past his prime and maybe fighting for a pay check.. last I saw Casaymors lost once since '04 and that was a great fight against Marquez.

    This fight is only 10 rounds,,which benefits The older Casamayor.

    I look forward to this fight, I know it may seem like I'm taking Casamayor but just pointing out some stuff here, will not make a pick until the lines come out and the props.

    Guys feel free to chime in and give a pick, your take on the fight.. let's get this forum rolling.. we have some great fights this weekend.

                                         

    Any guess on the lines, and how this fight will pan out?
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    Joel Casamayor and Roberto Guerro have 71 fights between them they are BOTH south paws who have NEVER faced a south paw in their entire life.

    Yes Guerro fought a south paw in '02 but the guy was 18-38 and been knocked out 13 times.. and he WENT the distance with Guerro (This was a 6 rounder in '02) .

    This will be an interesting fight, Casamayor the BIGGER fighter, and I believe STILL faster hand speed than Guerro even at 39.

    What can we expect out of two south paws?

    I see no line yet, but believe Guerro will be about -165 due to the fact people feel Casamayor is past his prime and maybe fighting for a pay check.. last I saw Casaymors lost once since '04 and that was a great fight against Marquez.

    This fight is only 10 rounds,,which benefits The older Casamayor.

    I look forward to this fight, I know it may seem like I'm taking Casamayor but just pointing out some stuff here, will not make a pick until the lines come out and the props.

    Guys feel free to chime in and give a pick, your take on the fight.. let's get this forum rolling.. we have some great fights this weekend.

                                         

    Any guess on the lines, and how this fight will pan out?
     
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    Posted: Jul. 28, 2010 - 12:26 PM ET #2

    Casamayor is shot imo.
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    Casamayor is shot imo.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 28, 2010 - 12:56 PM ET #3

    Guerrero -1200 on 5dimes.  I thought Guerrero would be a big favorite, but not THAT big. 
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    Guerrero -1200 on 5dimes.  I thought Guerrero would be a big favorite, but not THAT big. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DannoDanger:

    Guerrero -1200 on 5dimes.  I thought Guerrero would be a big favorite, but not THAT big. 

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    lol thats not very close to  -165 . That line is nuts

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannoDanger:

    Guerrero -1200 on 5dimes.  I thought Guerrero would be a big favorite, but not THAT big. 

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    lol thats not very close to  -165 . That line is nuts

     
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    Posted: Jul. 28, 2010 - 4:32 PM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by DannoDanger:

    Guerrero -1200 on 5dimes.  I thought Guerrero would be a big favorite, but not THAT big. 

     

    Four hours later, the line is now -675 on Guerrero.  I should've bet Casamayor before. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by DannoDanger:

    Guerrero -1200 on 5dimes.  I thought Guerrero would be a big favorite, but not THAT big. 

     

    Four hours later, the line is now -675 on Guerrero.  I should've bet Casamayor before. 

     
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    Posted: Jul. 28, 2010 - 6:13 PM ET #6

    Wow -1200  now -675 even that line is super inflated.

    I will wait until the weigh in to see how Casamayor looks.

    Still amazed at such a high line.

    I may take Marquez to win parlayed with Casamayor (with a pts handicap).

    Anyone want to have a shot at what the points handicap will be? It's a 10 rounder.

                                             
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    Wow -1200  now -675 even that line is super inflated.

    I will wait until the weigh in to see how Casamayor looks.

    Still amazed at such a high line.

    I may take Marquez to win parlayed with Casamayor (with a pts handicap).

    Anyone want to have a shot at what the points handicap will be? It's a 10 rounder.

                                             
     
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    Posted: Jul. 28, 2010 - 7:10 PM ET #7

    Isn't he fighting "The Ghost?" Who is Guerro?

    I'm confused by the statement that neither guy has fought a lefty, followed up by the comment that 'Guerro' did in fact fight a southpaw in 1992.
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    Isn't he fighting "The Ghost?" Who is Guerro?

    I'm confused by the statement that neither guy has fought a lefty, followed up by the comment that 'Guerro' did in fact fight a southpaw in 1992.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 28, 2010 - 11:21 PM ET #8

    good info Rich --per usual,,odd stat indeed
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    good info Rich --per usual,,odd stat indeed
     
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    Posted: Jul. 29, 2010 - 3:59 PM ET #9

    Odds down to -525  still too high, never seen a fight shift from -1200 to -675 to -525 so quickly.. I know Vegas throws dummy lines out there to test a line and adjust it accordingly but never seen a jump like this before.

    Still two days left.


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    Odds down to -525  still too high, never seen a fight shift from -1200 to -675 to -525 so quickly.. I know Vegas throws dummy lines out there to test a line and adjust it accordingly but never seen a jump like this before.

    Still two days left.


     
     
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    Posted: Jul. 31, 2010 - 5:05 AM ET #10

    Casamayor is +891 to win by DEC.  Threw a few bucks on it.  I do believe Guerrero will win this fight but I definitely see it going the full 10 rounds.  Guerrero is -165 to win a DEC but the over 8.5 is -230 so I'm just playing on that instead (parlayed with Bika) with a small play on Casa by DEC at the ridic odds.

    I also did...Linares by DEC -175, hedged with a Juarez KO at +1010 (which is now +590)....

    Bika -265 (now -340) parlayed with Marq DEC +155 and Marq Rd7-12 +260....

    Jacobs -165

    Nongkayi/Rosa +10.5 -150.  Also Nongkayi by DEC +270.

    Zbik/Heiland +9.5 -200 parlayed with Gevor/Sartison +9.5 -230...

    Huge day of plays.  I like alot of stuff.  I see alot of good, long fights.
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    Casamayor is +891 to win by DEC.  Threw a few bucks on it.  I do believe Guerrero will win this fight but I definitely see it going the full 10 rounds.  Guerrero is -165 to win a DEC but the over 8.5 is -230 so I'm just playing on that instead (parlayed with Bika) with a small play on Casa by DEC at the ridic odds.

    I also did...Linares by DEC -175, hedged with a Juarez KO at +1010 (which is now +590)....

    Bika -265 (now -340) parlayed with Marq DEC +155 and Marq Rd7-12 +260....

    Jacobs -165

    Nongkayi/Rosa +10.5 -150.  Also Nongkayi by DEC +270.

    Zbik/Heiland +9.5 -200 parlayed with Gevor/Sartison +9.5 -230...

    Huge day of plays.  I like alot of stuff.  I see alot of good, long fights.
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