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    Pacquiao sues Mayweather

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    Posted: Dec. 30, 2009 - 7:31 PM ET #1

    Manny has filed a law suit against Mayweather. 

    Many just keeps looking worse and worse everyday with this whole thing. 

    One has to start wondering now if Manny hasn't juiced up before. He's too defensive about this whole thing and usually when people get really defensive about something is because that is their first reaction to having been caught.

    I'm not saying Manny has taken PEDs, but come on now. Just agree to the tests and prove to the whole world that you are clean.

    Very plain and simple.
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    Manny has filed a law suit against Mayweather. 

    Many just keeps looking worse and worse everyday with this whole thing. 

    One has to start wondering now if Manny hasn't juiced up before. He's too defensive about this whole thing and usually when people get really defensive about something is because that is their first reaction to having been caught.

    I'm not saying Manny has taken PEDs, but come on now. Just agree to the tests and prove to the whole world that you are clean.

    Very plain and simple.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 30, 2009 - 8:38 PM ET #2

    It's over.  The fight won't happen (not next, at least). 

     

    https://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-5699-NY-Boxing-Examiner~y2009m12d30-Manny-Pacquiao-challenges-Yuri-Foreman-March-20

     

    As a fan, I used to love Pacquiao and hate Mayweather.  Now I hate them both. 

     

     

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    It's over.  The fight won't happen (not next, at least). 

     

    https://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-5699-NY-Boxing-Examiner~y2009m12d30-Manny-Pacquiao-challenges-Yuri-Foreman-March-20

     

    As a fan, I used to love Pacquiao and hate Mayweather.  Now I hate them both. 

     

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 30, 2009 - 11:41 PM ET #3

    so do i... fuck em.
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    so do i... fuck em.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2009 - 6:29 AM ET #4

    why would anyone in the boxing world try to change a rule that has been there for years? i mean mayweather is too full of himself to even doubt the credibility of nevada commission in which it has for years tested boxers including boxing greats and even both him an pacquiao. he so full of himself that he wanted to change the norm. is he indirectly saying that nevada commission is useless and for the past years fighters might have been using illegal substances? now why would anyone throw this at pacquiao when mayweather started the baseless accusations? manny has worked hard for this started at 106 as a very poor fighter fighting his way out of poverty, has always been clean and passed every tests, so why would anyone hate him for protecting himself? isnt it true that he would probably lose business opportunities and endorsements with this baseless accusations? even if blood testing is not a commissioned test he even agreed to doing it not just as how mayweather would want to. is mayweather the boss now? whatever he says should be followed? and when someone declines his requests then he is a cheater? remember that pacquiao has ego too, and thats one reason he filed this lawsuit. what bothers me also is how mayweather almost has the same resume of pacquiao. started at 106, climbed up in weight, beat bigger fighters, retained speed and power, but all of a sudden for a black man, its possible while for an asian guy, its impossible thus these allegations? i think if mayweather has not tried to bully pacquiao or if just the norm would have been followed all along then this fight would have been signed week ago. there is no blaming pacquiao when he is just protecting himself as a fighter by not agreeing to blood test up to the day itself and protecting his business by suing mayweather for defamation for loss of business opportunities.
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    why would anyone in the boxing world try to change a rule that has been there for years? i mean mayweather is too full of himself to even doubt the credibility of nevada commission in which it has for years tested boxers including boxing greats and even both him an pacquiao. he so full of himself that he wanted to change the norm. is he indirectly saying that nevada commission is useless and for the past years fighters might have been using illegal substances? now why would anyone throw this at pacquiao when mayweather started the baseless accusations? manny has worked hard for this started at 106 as a very poor fighter fighting his way out of poverty, has always been clean and passed every tests, so why would anyone hate him for protecting himself? isnt it true that he would probably lose business opportunities and endorsements with this baseless accusations? even if blood testing is not a commissioned test he even agreed to doing it not just as how mayweather would want to. is mayweather the boss now? whatever he says should be followed? and when someone declines his requests then he is a cheater? remember that pacquiao has ego too, and thats one reason he filed this lawsuit. what bothers me also is how mayweather almost has the same resume of pacquiao. started at 106, climbed up in weight, beat bigger fighters, retained speed and power, but all of a sudden for a black man, its possible while for an asian guy, its impossible thus these allegations? i think if mayweather has not tried to bully pacquiao or if just the norm would have been followed all along then this fight would have been signed week ago. there is no blaming pacquiao when he is just protecting himself as a fighter by not agreeing to blood test up to the day itself and protecting his business by suing mayweather for defamation for loss of business opportunities.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2009 - 6:38 AM ET #5

    i dont also understand how mayweather all of a sudden became this ambassador for fairness. why is it that he all of a sudden thought of becoming fair when he is doomed to face a credible fighter in pacman? why didnt he ask for blood test when he fought marquez, who also rose up in weight fighting casamayor and diaz. why didnt he ask for a blood test when he fought de la hoya when the magnitude of the fight is the same as what pacquiao would bring? did he all of a sudden become fair when he is about to fight pacquiao? sr, was a trainer of his son before and was a convicted drug dealer why not question what he might have given his son? i really believe mayweather successfully ducked pacquiao here and has he said in interviews before boxing is business, and he knows that by getting that L in his record, his business will go down and never recover especially now that the public hates him. he can go ahead and earn a lot fighting hattons brother with the risk of losing the L and continue fighting or fight pacquiao now and face a possible retirement.
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    i dont also understand how mayweather all of a sudden became this ambassador for fairness. why is it that he all of a sudden thought of becoming fair when he is doomed to face a credible fighter in pacman? why didnt he ask for blood test when he fought marquez, who also rose up in weight fighting casamayor and diaz. why didnt he ask for a blood test when he fought de la hoya when the magnitude of the fight is the same as what pacquiao would bring? did he all of a sudden become fair when he is about to fight pacquiao? sr, was a trainer of his son before and was a convicted drug dealer why not question what he might have given his son? i really believe mayweather successfully ducked pacquiao here and has he said in interviews before boxing is business, and he knows that by getting that L in his record, his business will go down and never recover especially now that the public hates him. he can go ahead and earn a lot fighting hattons brother with the risk of losing the L and continue fighting or fight pacquiao now and face a possible retirement.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2009 - 8:37 AM ET #6

    Obviously you don't see the major leap Pac-man has done, he started out at what 106? Now fighting at 147? Remember he jumped from 130 to 147 in a little over a YEAR.

    Mosley/Mayweather did it over a LONG period of time MANY fights.

    Pac-man hit hard at 126/130 but still didn't knock Marquez OUT he  stunned him. Now you expect people to believe he's knocking out guys at 140 and 147 with EASE?

    Pac-man didn't just move up weight classes he LEAPED.. he fought once at 135.. leaped up to welterweight.. then went down to 140 then back to 147 all in a bit over a year and he got faster and stronger  in such a short period of time.. that doesn't strike you as odd?

    Look at Marquez who fought him at 130 it was a WAR. Now Marquez moved up to 135 to fight Diaz and he looked very unimpressive.. Juan Diaz bullied and pushed him around the ring. It's what made it am amazing fight, Diaz was too BIG for Marquez but Marquez being such a skilled technician found a way to win!

    Marquez moving up no one questioned, why? Look at him training.. he was in the mountains of Mexico.. he was drinking his own urine.. he was doing everything by the book.

    Marquez enters the ring an old looking man slow as can be.. why because he isn't a 140/147 fighter he's not even a 135 fighter. It showed, you cannot just throw that much muscle on and expect to be as fast.

    Look at Oscar's body does that look like a guy who does enhancement?

    Realize Mosley and all the other fighters involved that you mentioned.. moved UP VERY slowly.. and when they did move up... look what happened.. they didn't carry the power... as well!

    You expect people to believe a peanut at 106 pounds ..who looked decent at 126 and 130.. suddenly dominates welter weights with ease?

    Pac-man will offer as many uine and bloods tests by Nevada commission because they're a joke, Mosley got away with using roids.. so did Vargas (wasn't until after).

    Also realize he isn't just suing Floyd and his father he's suing  Oscar and Golden Boy Promotions.. and  Richard Shaefer and a few others.

    You can say Floyd loses out but Floyd had NOTHING to lose, Pac-man has mad a clown of himself.. so has Bob Arum. Floyd will fight on and make good money .. as big as his payday against Pac-man no? But he will fight on and make good money.

    Everyone is questioning Pac-man now.. why doesn't he just take the test .. what does he have to hide?

    We know he's not scared of needles as he claimed, he got tattoos.

    Every professional who knows blood says your system is back to normal on 1 hour after giving blood that it's NOT possible to be "weak" for a fight after giving blood.

    I don't like Floyd, never have.. (his ego and attitude), but he has a right to protect himself.. because he wasn't the first to bring it up Paulie Malinaggi WAS (Why isn't he being sued)?

    I loved Pac-man at 126/130 .. he was fun to watch .. but this has turned into a circus.. if these two clowns cannot agree to fight, stop throwing ape shit at each other.. fight other people.

    Realize it's more than Floyd, once the fight was in Vegas Oscar took  over as he has the Vegas license, and that's when all of this began.

    Arum and Oscar Hate each other especially after Oscar stole Victor Ortiz from Arum.

    I think we can all agree this has turned into a circus.. and respect for Pac-man has dropped  considerably from many people (not even because of the blood test) but because he is SUING like a bitch lol!

    Remember Pac-man moved up from 130-147 in a little over a year, where Mosley Floyd took many many years to reach welter weight.

    Pac-man  is the smallest guy ever in history to move up when he was already maxed out .. at 130 .. to move up to 135 140 and 147 and get faster and STRONGER in ONE YEAR.

    I think you have it reversed Pac-man is the one who would be facing retirement all he has to do is give a tiny bit of blood.. and the fight is on..

    I always thought Floyd would be Manny's biggest TEST turns out to be a BLOOD TEST.                      
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    Obviously you don't see the major leap Pac-man has done, he started out at what 106? Now fighting at 147? Remember he jumped from 130 to 147 in a little over a YEAR.

    Mosley/Mayweather did it over a LONG period of time MANY fights.

    Pac-man hit hard at 126/130 but still didn't knock Marquez OUT he  stunned him. Now you expect people to believe he's knocking out guys at 140 and 147 with EASE?

    Pac-man didn't just move up weight classes he LEAPED.. he fought once at 135.. leaped up to welterweight.. then went down to 140 then back to 147 all in a bit over a year and he got faster and stronger  in such a short period of time.. that doesn't strike you as odd?

    Look at Marquez who fought him at 130 it was a WAR. Now Marquez moved up to 135 to fight Diaz and he looked very unimpressive.. Juan Diaz bullied and pushed him around the ring. It's what made it am amazing fight, Diaz was too BIG for Marquez but Marquez being such a skilled technician found a way to win!

    Marquez moving up no one questioned, why? Look at him training.. he was in the mountains of Mexico.. he was drinking his own urine.. he was doing everything by the book.

    Marquez enters the ring an old looking man slow as can be.. why because he isn't a 140/147 fighter he's not even a 135 fighter. It showed, you cannot just throw that much muscle on and expect to be as fast.

    Look at Oscar's body does that look like a guy who does enhancement?

    Realize Mosley and all the other fighters involved that you mentioned.. moved UP VERY slowly.. and when they did move up... look what happened.. they didn't carry the power... as well!

    You expect people to believe a peanut at 106 pounds ..who looked decent at 126 and 130.. suddenly dominates welter weights with ease?

    Pac-man will offer as many uine and bloods tests by Nevada commission because they're a joke, Mosley got away with using roids.. so did Vargas (wasn't until after).

    Also realize he isn't just suing Floyd and his father he's suing  Oscar and Golden Boy Promotions.. and  Richard Shaefer and a few others.

    You can say Floyd loses out but Floyd had NOTHING to lose, Pac-man has mad a clown of himself.. so has Bob Arum. Floyd will fight on and make good money .. as big as his payday against Pac-man no? But he will fight on and make good money.

    Everyone is questioning Pac-man now.. why doesn't he just take the test .. what does he have to hide?

    We know he's not scared of needles as he claimed, he got tattoos.

    Every professional who knows blood says your system is back to normal on 1 hour after giving blood that it's NOT possible to be "weak" for a fight after giving blood.

    I don't like Floyd, never have.. (his ego and attitude), but he has a right to protect himself.. because he wasn't the first to bring it up Paulie Malinaggi WAS (Why isn't he being sued)?

    I loved Pac-man at 126/130 .. he was fun to watch .. but this has turned into a circus.. if these two clowns cannot agree to fight, stop throwing ape shit at each other.. fight other people.

    Realize it's more than Floyd, once the fight was in Vegas Oscar took  over as he has the Vegas license, and that's when all of this began.

    Arum and Oscar Hate each other especially after Oscar stole Victor Ortiz from Arum.

    I think we can all agree this has turned into a circus.. and respect for Pac-man has dropped  considerably from many people (not even because of the blood test) but because he is SUING like a bitch lol!

    Remember Pac-man moved up from 130-147 in a little over a year, where Mosley Floyd took many many years to reach welter weight.

    Pac-man  is the smallest guy ever in history to move up when he was already maxed out .. at 130 .. to move up to 135 140 and 147 and get faster and STRONGER in ONE YEAR.

    I think you have it reversed Pac-man is the one who would be facing retirement all he has to do is give a tiny bit of blood.. and the fight is on..

    I always thought Floyd would be Manny's biggest TEST turns out to be a BLOOD TEST.                      
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2009 - 9:49 AM ET #7

    are we all of a sudden sure that mayweather did not take enhancement drugs? so what if he did it slowly? the mere fact that he has a convicted drug lord dad, and has the same resume as that of pacman from 106 up fighting bigger men while maintaining speed and power means he is more than likely to have took steroids too. but an asian all of a sudden defying the odds means its impossible? 

    i dont care about mosley though because he admitted himself that he may have unknowingly or knowlingly took steroids so golden boy's fighter mosley is a confirmed cheat. it is so hypocritical of golden boy to accuse someone of enhancement drugs while having a confirmed user in their company.

    comparing fights vs fights is not the way boxing works, but since you brought that logic up, remember oscar dela hoya saying pacquiao did not hurt him? and that pacquiao's punches he does not feel? research it and you will see that de la hoya brushed pacquiaos power, and now all of a sudden he is back tracking and saying that pacquiao was on steroids? this guy has no credibility whatsoever.

    regarding diaz, oscar, hatton and cotto, do you have an idea how pacquiao could possibly feel their punches if by the time they throw punches pacquiao would move out. how can pacquiao be stopped if pacquiaos face is no longer their when they throw a power shot? SO CAN YOU CREDIT A SMALL ASIAN MAN FOR HAVING SPEED and GOOD REFLEXES or is it still ROIDS? how can a boxer be knocked out if their is no punches hitting him? did oscar land a power shot that you would make you say he is on roids? did cotto land shots? did diaz? i dont think they did land shots because pacquiao is too fast for them. please understand that a boxer needs to be hit first to be KO'd. IS PACMANS ABILITY TO NOT GET HIT STEROIDS AGAIN?

    remember that except for hatton the diaz, oscar, and cotto fight went above 8 rounds and IT WAS NOT JUST ONE punch that killed them. it was HUNDREDS OF PUNCHES to the face and body that stopped them. pacquiao even at 106 to 135 is credited for throwing hundreds of punches do you even think and credit pacquiao for he may have been hitting more on target now that his opponents are bigger and are not that fast? OR IS IT AGAIN ROIDS?

    that is my point, marquez vs pacquiao was a war because small man vs small man means both are fast with their punches and both have great foot work. pacquiao hits more accurately when fighting bigger and slower fighters than smaller and fatser one and its common sense why. i believe marquez was knocked down 4 times, that shows that with smaller men pacquiao can KO with one punch while with bigger men pacquiao needs hundreds of punches! so where is the steroids?

    WHERE IS THE STEROIDS>????????????????????????????????

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    are we all of a sudden sure that mayweather did not take enhancement drugs? so what if he did it slowly? the mere fact that he has a convicted drug lord dad, and has the same resume as that of pacman from 106 up fighting bigger men while maintaining speed and power means he is more than likely to have took steroids too. but an asian all of a sudden defying the odds means its impossible? 

    i dont care about mosley though because he admitted himself that he may have unknowingly or knowlingly took steroids so golden boy's fighter mosley is a confirmed cheat. it is so hypocritical of golden boy to accuse someone of enhancement drugs while having a confirmed user in their company.

    comparing fights vs fights is not the way boxing works, but since you brought that logic up, remember oscar dela hoya saying pacquiao did not hurt him? and that pacquiao's punches he does not feel? research it and you will see that de la hoya brushed pacquiaos power, and now all of a sudden he is back tracking and saying that pacquiao was on steroids? this guy has no credibility whatsoever.

    regarding diaz, oscar, hatton and cotto, do you have an idea how pacquiao could possibly feel their punches if by the time they throw punches pacquiao would move out. how can pacquiao be stopped if pacquiaos face is no longer their when they throw a power shot? SO CAN YOU CREDIT A SMALL ASIAN MAN FOR HAVING SPEED and GOOD REFLEXES or is it still ROIDS? how can a boxer be knocked out if their is no punches hitting him? did oscar land a power shot that you would make you say he is on roids? did cotto land shots? did diaz? i dont think they did land shots because pacquiao is too fast for them. please understand that a boxer needs to be hit first to be KO'd. IS PACMANS ABILITY TO NOT GET HIT STEROIDS AGAIN?

    remember that except for hatton the diaz, oscar, and cotto fight went above 8 rounds and IT WAS NOT JUST ONE punch that killed them. it was HUNDREDS OF PUNCHES to the face and body that stopped them. pacquiao even at 106 to 135 is credited for throwing hundreds of punches do you even think and credit pacquiao for he may have been hitting more on target now that his opponents are bigger and are not that fast? OR IS IT AGAIN ROIDS?

    that is my point, marquez vs pacquiao was a war because small man vs small man means both are fast with their punches and both have great foot work. pacquiao hits more accurately when fighting bigger and slower fighters than smaller and fatser one and its common sense why. i believe marquez was knocked down 4 times, that shows that with smaller men pacquiao can KO with one punch while with bigger men pacquiao needs hundreds of punches! so where is the steroids?

    WHERE IS THE STEROIDS>????????????????????????????????

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