Maybe, but sergio martinez lost to Margarito and margarito is bigger than sergio. Sergio fights with his hands down which would open him with pacmans fist in all angles!
Thats the fight that makes more sense !!
Maybe, but sergio martinez lost to Margarito and margarito is bigger than sergio. Sergio fights with his hands down which would open him with pacmans fist in all angles!
Thats the fight that makes more sense !!
Maybe, but sergio martinez lost to Margarito and margarito is bigger than sergio. Sergio fights with his hands down which would open him with pacmans fist in all angles!
Thats the fight that makes more sense !!
Maybe, but sergio martinez lost to Margarito and margarito is bigger than sergio. Sergio fights with his hands down which would open him with pacmans fist in all angles!
Thats the fight that makes more sense !!
walktheline: You seem to have a good understanding and analysis of fights. Even though I agree about Martinez vs Manny, do you feel this way because Martinez is primed and at his best now, Manny is declining, the match-up, Manny is over-rated, some or all the above, etc...? I was curious why you had such a strong opinion about that fight. Personally, I think Floyd won't even fight Manny even though I feel he would win but doesn't want to take the chance. As much BS that Floyd pulls in and outside the ring, you can't take away his skills and proven. It is a tarnish to his legacy by not fighting Manny. Also, you think Manny is or has used any illegal supplements at any time?
sunset: You do realize that the Margarito/Martinez fight over a decade ago has no relevance? A one-handed Manny fighter was picked apart by Morales, and after work with Roach, he KO's Morales in a rematch, then a 3rd fight was a total mis-match. Manny pounced him around and Morales refused to continue stating that Manny was too strong and much better now and continuing a fight he felt he had no chance was foolish and dangerous (this statement coming from a true warrior in the ring; look what a way over-the-hill Morales did toe-to-toe against Maidana).
walktheline: You seem to have a good understanding and analysis of fights. Even though I agree about Martinez vs Manny, do you feel this way because Martinez is primed and at his best now, Manny is declining, the match-up, Manny is over-rated, some or all the above, etc...? I was curious why you had such a strong opinion about that fight. Personally, I think Floyd won't even fight Manny even though I feel he would win but doesn't want to take the chance. As much BS that Floyd pulls in and outside the ring, you can't take away his skills and proven. It is a tarnish to his legacy by not fighting Manny. Also, you think Manny is or has used any illegal supplements at any time?
sunset: You do realize that the Margarito/Martinez fight over a decade ago has no relevance? A one-handed Manny fighter was picked apart by Morales, and after work with Roach, he KO's Morales in a rematch, then a 3rd fight was a total mis-match. Manny pounced him around and Morales refused to continue stating that Manny was too strong and much better now and continuing a fight he felt he had no chance was foolish and dangerous (this statement coming from a true warrior in the ring; look what a way over-the-hill Morales did toe-to-toe against Maidana).
walktheline: You seem to have a good understanding and analysis of fights. Even though I agree about Martinez vs Manny, do you feel this way because Martinez is primed and at his best now, Manny is declining, the match-up, Manny is over-rated, some or all the above, etc...? I was curious why you had such a strong opinion about that fight. Personally, I think Floyd won't even fight Manny even though I feel he would win but doesn't want to take the chance. As much BS that Floyd pulls in and outside the ring, you can't take away his skills and proven. It is a tarnish to his legacy by not fighting Manny. Also, you think Manny is or has used any illegal supplements at any time?
sunset: You do realize that the Margarito/Martinez fight over a decade ago has no relevance? A one-handed Manny fighter was picked apart by Morales, and after work with Roach, he KO's Morales in a rematch, then a 3rd fight was a total mis-match. Manny pounced him around and Morales refused to continue stating that Manny was too strong and much better now and continuing a fight he felt he had no chance was foolish and dangerous (this statement coming from a true warrior in the ring; look what a way over-the-hill Morales did toe-to-toe against Maidana).
walktheline: You seem to have a good understanding and analysis of fights. Even though I agree about Martinez vs Manny, do you feel this way because Martinez is primed and at his best now, Manny is declining, the match-up, Manny is over-rated, some or all the above, etc...? I was curious why you had such a strong opinion about that fight. Personally, I think Floyd won't even fight Manny even though I feel he would win but doesn't want to take the chance. As much BS that Floyd pulls in and outside the ring, you can't take away his skills and proven. It is a tarnish to his legacy by not fighting Manny. Also, you think Manny is or has used any illegal supplements at any time?
sunset: You do realize that the Margarito/Martinez fight over a decade ago has no relevance? A one-handed Manny fighter was picked apart by Morales, and after work with Roach, he KO's Morales in a rematch, then a 3rd fight was a total mis-match. Manny pounced him around and Morales refused to continue stating that Manny was too strong and much better now and continuing a fight he felt he had no chance was foolish and dangerous (this statement coming from a true warrior in the ring; look what a way over-the-hill Morales did toe-to-toe against Maidana).
walktheline: I feel the same way. I think punching power is nearly equal, but his great stamina with movement is hard to keep up with. Even the Williams 1st fight it was great. I think Sunset doesn't understand the politics involved, we don't get great matches because they want them, it's money generation. Oscar was a great over-achiever in this and put it to use in promotions and saving boxing! I think you mis-took my thread on Floyd hypocrisy. I know it's like WWE where you generate more interest in attitudes, etc..., but Floyd's arrogance is exceeding highly shown, yet I feel he is insecure. When I watched Floyd in the 90's I knew I was watching a great great fighter. He had the same attitude back then, and confidence is good, but an overly need to put it out there before he proved it in the ring shows he either states it to fool himself and others maybe as well. Most people think I fall for 24/7 promotion, etc. I know the real world, I fought and 99% of pro athletes especially boxers and MMA have a great respect for any other professional including in the ring. Few times, as in heavyweights it is more a pyschological battle becomes they aren't as talented as smaller fighters, so just a hesitation toward another opponent could make the difference. It the lower weights, they bring it cause even they know what exactly they are up against and 90% the time know how it will end. That's why I never watched Floyd-Marquez, it was promotion... no chance for Marquez, he was beat in every category except his chin and heart have seen battles most fighters couldn't muster. Floyd is smart and never put himself in a bad spot in the ring. He isn't an over crowd pleaser, and as defensive first as he fights he does open up when the risk is minimal and he can take a guy out. His fight against Oscar I was suprised, that either Oscar fought better than expected, Mayweather fought sub-par, or maybe Mayweather has trouble with talented taller fighters. Also southpaw with 3" height may have caused Mayweather to adjust more than expected.
Another note: Remember Floyd's statement he doesn't watch video of opponent and Roger Mayweather said that it is a waste. I believed Floyd that his past opponents he maybe never watched their fights, but I know he and his corner watched Mosley footage. This is a fact. I don't watch to many promotions so I'm not sure if they showed Floyd lounging watching tapes on 24/7. Funny, Manny doesn't seem to watch much film and trust his corner to do the breakdowns. I'm sure I've seen a promo w/ Manny watching but he normally won't do much of it, and Roach is superb anyways so just using Freddie's advice will do it.
walktheline: I feel the same way. I think punching power is nearly equal, but his great stamina with movement is hard to keep up with. Even the Williams 1st fight it was great. I think Sunset doesn't understand the politics involved, we don't get great matches because they want them, it's money generation. Oscar was a great over-achiever in this and put it to use in promotions and saving boxing! I think you mis-took my thread on Floyd hypocrisy. I know it's like WWE where you generate more interest in attitudes, etc..., but Floyd's arrogance is exceeding highly shown, yet I feel he is insecure. When I watched Floyd in the 90's I knew I was watching a great great fighter. He had the same attitude back then, and confidence is good, but an overly need to put it out there before he proved it in the ring shows he either states it to fool himself and others maybe as well. Most people think I fall for 24/7 promotion, etc. I know the real world, I fought and 99% of pro athletes especially boxers and MMA have a great respect for any other professional including in the ring. Few times, as in heavyweights it is more a pyschological battle becomes they aren't as talented as smaller fighters, so just a hesitation toward another opponent could make the difference. It the lower weights, they bring it cause even they know what exactly they are up against and 90% the time know how it will end. That's why I never watched Floyd-Marquez, it was promotion... no chance for Marquez, he was beat in every category except his chin and heart have seen battles most fighters couldn't muster. Floyd is smart and never put himself in a bad spot in the ring. He isn't an over crowd pleaser, and as defensive first as he fights he does open up when the risk is minimal and he can take a guy out. His fight against Oscar I was suprised, that either Oscar fought better than expected, Mayweather fought sub-par, or maybe Mayweather has trouble with talented taller fighters. Also southpaw with 3" height may have caused Mayweather to adjust more than expected.
Another note: Remember Floyd's statement he doesn't watch video of opponent and Roger Mayweather said that it is a waste. I believed Floyd that his past opponents he maybe never watched their fights, but I know he and his corner watched Mosley footage. This is a fact. I don't watch to many promotions so I'm not sure if they showed Floyd lounging watching tapes on 24/7. Funny, Manny doesn't seem to watch much film and trust his corner to do the breakdowns. I'm sure I've seen a promo w/ Manny watching but he normally won't do much of it, and Roach is superb anyways so just using Freddie's advice will do it.
margarito and sergio would be a very interesting fight its worth the money id pay to watch it. will it sell tickets absolutely. What large revenues, when sergio martinez KO paul williams it only drew a crowd of 5,502 fans at Boardwalk Hall lol. I bet a margarito vs sergio martinez would probably draw bigger crowd possibly around 12.000 or more.
margarito and sergio would be a very interesting fight its worth the money id pay to watch it. will it sell tickets absolutely. What large revenues, when sergio martinez KO paul williams it only drew a crowd of 5,502 fans at Boardwalk Hall lol. I bet a margarito vs sergio martinez would probably draw bigger crowd possibly around 12.000 or more.
Just to clear up come misunderstandings I wanted to post a simple comaprison. Someone was posting how many people certain fights had as live spectators, so I'll start with the top.
Largest Boxing Top Producing Fight from Paid Fans at the Event May 5, 2007 - Floyd Mayweather vs Oscar de la Hoya - Brought in $18,419,200 in revenues with 17,078 fans that were paid spectators.
The fight generated $120 MILLION for a single PPV event! So, for those posting crowd attendance, you can take the gate and I'll take the TV cake.
Just to clear up come misunderstandings I wanted to post a simple comaprison. Someone was posting how many people certain fights had as live spectators, so I'll start with the top.
Largest Boxing Top Producing Fight from Paid Fans at the Event May 5, 2007 - Floyd Mayweather vs Oscar de la Hoya - Brought in $18,419,200 in revenues with 17,078 fans that were paid spectators.
The fight generated $120 MILLION for a single PPV event! So, for those posting crowd attendance, you can take the gate and I'll take the TV cake.
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