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    The Worst Decisions Ever: Bramble vs Carr (1991)

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    Oba Carr vs Livingstone Bramble on October 8th, 1991. Oba Carr won a split decision  96-93 | 95-94 | 93-95. It was a hometown fight for Carr and big time robbery. You could have called 911 that night and been justified. I had it 96-91 for Bramble, as he dropped Carr twice in the first round. Carr at 20-0 (14 KOs) was primed as a top contender in the division and considered a good opponent for Trinidad at the time. After the suprising look winning the fight he said "I tried my best against a 31-year old man—It’s good, I think.”

    It was 3 yeas later and Carr had 11 fights after the Bramble heist, and 5 fighters had losing records before he fought Trinidad.  Huh? Yes, and his tune-up before Felix was Antonio Ojeda at 1-5-0. What? Yes, I did say one win. Finally when Carr met Trinidad, Carr dropped Felix in round two, then he got dropped twice in round eight and losing by TKO that round. Notice after Bramble, Carr's management took little chances before getting a payday fight. It was a disgrace to boxing after a decision then the caliber of opponents was a joke. The combined record of the 11 fighters after Bramble to before Trinidad was 163-86-10. Taking away 2 decent of those opponents and the record for nine opponents was 109-82-7, for the opponents win rate was a staggering 57%!

    One of many bad, bad, bad decisions I've seen... Not only by the judges but Carr's corner should feel disgrace. Protecting a fighter and dodging certain opponents to get a nice payday fight before losing is the norm for most. What his entire owner, promoter all the way down to him is just sickening. Five years after losing to Felix he lost to Oscar by TKO in the 11th round.

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    Oba Carr vs Livingstone Bramble on October 8th, 1991. Oba Carr won a split decision  96-93 | 95-94 | 93-95. It was a hometown fight for Carr and big time robbery. You could have called 911 that night and been justified. I had it 96-91 for Bramble, as he dropped Carr twice in the first round. Carr at 20-0 (14 KOs) was primed as a top contender in the division and considered a good opponent for Trinidad at the time. After the suprising look winning the fight he said "I tried my best against a 31-year old man—It’s good, I think.”

    It was 3 yeas later and Carr had 11 fights after the Bramble heist, and 5 fighters had losing records before he fought Trinidad.  Huh? Yes, and his tune-up before Felix was Antonio Ojeda at 1-5-0. What? Yes, I did say one win. Finally when Carr met Trinidad, Carr dropped Felix in round two, then he got dropped twice in round eight and losing by TKO that round. Notice after Bramble, Carr's management took little chances before getting a payday fight. It was a disgrace to boxing after a decision then the caliber of opponents was a joke. The combined record of the 11 fighters after Bramble to before Trinidad was 163-86-10. Taking away 2 decent of those opponents and the record for nine opponents was 109-82-7, for the opponents win rate was a staggering 57%!

    One of many bad, bad, bad decisions I've seen... Not only by the judges but Carr's corner should feel disgrace. Protecting a fighter and dodging certain opponents to get a nice payday fight before losing is the norm for most. What his entire owner, promoter all the way down to him is just sickening. Five years after losing to Felix he lost to Oscar by TKO in the 11th round.

     
     
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    What's up zouk, the worst decision that I have ever seen, is emanuel augustus vs courtney burton 1, augustus dominated the whole damn fight, and got robbed again, It just lets you know that if you are not a hall of fame type talent, than the promoters and management that you have around you is huge, teddy atlas's rant after the fight is unforgettable, another one is joe louis vs jersey joe walcott 1, walcott took him to school that night, even knocked him down 3 times and still got robbed, louis even left the ring before the official dec. was announced,  and as corrupt as boxing was back then, the powers to be allowed walcott to fight for the title 5 times after that, he eventually won it on his 6th try against ezzard charles, they new the first louis fight was unjust, so they kept giving him shot after shot until the injustice was finally corrected.
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    What's up zouk, the worst decision that I have ever seen, is emanuel augustus vs courtney burton 1, augustus dominated the whole damn fight, and got robbed again, It just lets you know that if you are not a hall of fame type talent, than the promoters and management that you have around you is huge, teddy atlas's rant after the fight is unforgettable, another one is joe louis vs jersey joe walcott 1, walcott took him to school that night, even knocked him down 3 times and still got robbed, louis even left the ring before the official dec. was announced,  and as corrupt as boxing was back then, the powers to be allowed walcott to fight for the title 5 times after that, he eventually won it on his 6th try against ezzard charles, they new the first louis fight was unjust, so they kept giving him shot after shot until the injustice was finally corrected.
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