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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2017 - 8:24 AM ET #1

    33-24 season to date.....yeah sure take the Lions, don't worry about the fact that their qb can't play....seemed like a good idea at the time.

    Playoff time.....

    Away dogs with the better regular season record have been 1-4 ATS, that fits the Sasquatches.  Teams with a lesser record their past four games, first round of the playoffs have been 6-4-1 ATS (0-3 if it was week 21) ...Sasquatches

    Game 1 is a no-play for me,....if the line goes to 3 perhaps I'll play the Riders.

    Home dogs have been 3-0 in the playoffs past few years.  Teams with the worse record their past six games and at home with a line of -3 or less (becoming a dog have been 3-0-1 ATS and 3-1 straight up.

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    1)  Bombers +3

    I don't really get why the Eskimos are favorites in this game.  Up until the last 3 games the Bombers were the superior team....normally it is good procedure to fade the fast finishers in football.....in other words we fade the team with Big Mo on their side.
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    33-24 season to date.....yeah sure take the Lions, don't worry about the fact that their qb can't play....seemed like a good idea at the time.

    Playoff time.....

    Away dogs with the better regular season record have been 1-4 ATS, that fits the Sasquatches.  Teams with a lesser record their past four games, first round of the playoffs have been 6-4-1 ATS (0-3 if it was week 21) ...Sasquatches

    Game 1 is a no-play for me,....if the line goes to 3 perhaps I'll play the Riders.

    Home dogs have been 3-0 in the playoffs past few years.  Teams with the worse record their past six games and at home with a line of -3 or less (becoming a dog have been 3-0-1 ATS and 3-1 straight up.

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    1)  Bombers +3

    I don't really get why the Eskimos are favorites in this game.  Up until the last 3 games the Bombers were the superior team....normally it is good procedure to fade the fast finishers in football.....in other words we fade the team with Big Mo on their side.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2017 - 9:51 AM ET #2

    Hey indigo Bombers quarterback is hurt but they have no choice but to play him. Matt won't be able to run as fast.Edmonton is on the rise and slowly getting their defense back from injuries. So I have to go with Edmonton
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    Hey indigo Bombers quarterback is hurt but they have no choice but to play him. Matt won't be able to run as fast.Edmonton is on the rise and slowly getting their defense back from injuries. So I have to go with Edmonton
     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2017 - 2:04 AM ET #3

    Another query that seals the deal for me.....

    Teams with the worse average season-to-date covering margin, (Eskimos, Ottawa), in the first round of the playoffs in week 21 have been 1-7-1 ATS (-6.28/game) and 2-7 straight up (-5.89)/game).

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    Another query that seals the deal for me.....

    Teams with the worse average season-to-date covering margin, (Eskimos, Ottawa), in the first round of the playoffs in week 21 have been 1-7-1 ATS (-6.28/game) and 2-7 straight up (-5.89)/game).

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    2)  Sasquatches +2'
     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2017 - 4:13 PM ET #4

    42-33-1 ATS blindly betting all dogs this season.  If tradition continues, CFL playoffs are usually close and competitive but favourites may still win straightup.
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    42-33-1 ATS blindly betting all dogs this season.  If tradition continues, CFL playoffs are usually close and competitive but favourites may still win straightup.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2017 - 7:03 PM ET #5

    BB WR Adams is OUT as well
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2017 - 8:46 PM ET #6

    I'll go over some data that I've found....it may be a bit confusing,....ask if you have questions, I'll explain what I've found the best that I can.

    I've been betting the CFL for a couple of years, and the sportsdatabase.com data goes back to 2007.  

    Evidently there was either one less game or one less bye week than there is now until 2014, when it changed to have an extra week on the CFL schedule.

    In the first week of the playoffs in week 20 (before 2014), favorites were 2-10-1 against the spread (ATS) and 9-5 straight up.

    In the first week of the playoffs when a week was added on to make the first week of the playoffs  week 21 (2014 and beyond) favorites have been 4-1-1 ATS and 6-0 straight up.

    Almost diametrically opposed results.

    Home favorites of 4 or less in first round games have been 2-5-1 ATS, 3-3 SU pre-2014.

    Home favorites of 4 or less  in first round games have been 2-0 ATS and 2-0 ATS after 2013...

    Small sample size, yes, I know. 

    When computing the average covering margins of the teams on a per game basis, here's what sportsdatabase has....

    1)  Bombers +2.67
    2)  Eskimos -.42
    3)  Redblacks +2.31
    4)  Riders  +5.22

    In the history of the database those teams that were dogs and had the better average spread covering margins....(the Bombers and Riders in this case) had these results on a week by week basis.

                          ATS         Straight up   teased

    week 20          3-1             1-3            3-1
    week 21          3-1             2-2            3-1
    week 22          2-3             0-5            3-2


    If form holds, it means that the games likely could be very close.....I haven't played these games yet, but I may consider teasing them, which happens rarely for me.

    The median margin of victory of these 13 games was 3 points by the favorite.  The favorite lost 3 times, won one by a point and won 3 games by 3 points....the remaining 6 games it won by more than 3.

    So, let's look at the idea of teasing these games based on past history.....teasing the dog resulted in a 9-4 record, 69% which isn't a good enough record to justify teasing two teams...a minimum of 72% is needed to have it be considered a percentage play.

    Teasing the favorite with the worse average covering margin?    We mentioned earlier that they were 5-8 ATS and 10-3 SU in the playoffs overall, teasing them would have brought you to 10-3 ATS.....and in the 1st round 1-4 ATS turned into 4-1 when teased.

    So in the past, teasing favorites was a good strategy based on past history, but teasing dogs was not.

    Teams that have had a negative per game  covering average....(the Eskimos), have been 9-3 straight up but 2-10 ATS as favorites.  In their first game of the playoffs they've been 7-3 ATS and 2-8 ATS.....if they're playing an opponent who also is playing their first playoff game it moves to 6-2 straight up and 1-7 ATS.   Basically those teams that have been poor at covering during the season continue to be poor, but they have won most of the time when expected to (as favorites). 

    Good fortune on your plays.



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    I'll go over some data that I've found....it may be a bit confusing,....ask if you have questions, I'll explain what I've found the best that I can.

    I've been betting the CFL for a couple of years, and the sportsdatabase.com data goes back to 2007.  

    Evidently there was either one less game or one less bye week than there is now until 2014, when it changed to have an extra week on the CFL schedule.

    In the first week of the playoffs in week 20 (before 2014), favorites were 2-10-1 against the spread (ATS) and 9-5 straight up.

    In the first week of the playoffs when a week was added on to make the first week of the playoffs  week 21 (2014 and beyond) favorites have been 4-1-1 ATS and 6-0 straight up.

    Almost diametrically opposed results.

    Home favorites of 4 or less in first round games have been 2-5-1 ATS, 3-3 SU pre-2014.

    Home favorites of 4 or less  in first round games have been 2-0 ATS and 2-0 ATS after 2013...

    Small sample size, yes, I know. 

    When computing the average covering margins of the teams on a per game basis, here's what sportsdatabase has....

    1)  Bombers +2.67
    2)  Eskimos -.42
    3)  Redblacks +2.31
    4)  Riders  +5.22

    In the history of the database those teams that were dogs and had the better average spread covering margins....(the Bombers and Riders in this case) had these results on a week by week basis.

                          ATS         Straight up   teased

    week 20          3-1             1-3            3-1
    week 21          3-1             2-2            3-1
    week 22          2-3             0-5            3-2


    If form holds, it means that the games likely could be very close.....I haven't played these games yet, but I may consider teasing them, which happens rarely for me.

    The median margin of victory of these 13 games was 3 points by the favorite.  The favorite lost 3 times, won one by a point and won 3 games by 3 points....the remaining 6 games it won by more than 3.

    So, let's look at the idea of teasing these games based on past history.....teasing the dog resulted in a 9-4 record, 69% which isn't a good enough record to justify teasing two teams...a minimum of 72% is needed to have it be considered a percentage play.

    Teasing the favorite with the worse average covering margin?    We mentioned earlier that they were 5-8 ATS and 10-3 SU in the playoffs overall, teasing them would have brought you to 10-3 ATS.....and in the 1st round 1-4 ATS turned into 4-1 when teased.

    So in the past, teasing favorites was a good strategy based on past history, but teasing dogs was not.

    Teams that have had a negative per game  covering average....(the Eskimos), have been 9-3 straight up but 2-10 ATS as favorites.  In their first game of the playoffs they've been 7-3 ATS and 2-8 ATS.....if they're playing an opponent who also is playing their first playoff game it moves to 6-2 straight up and 1-7 ATS.   Basically those teams that have been poor at covering during the season continue to be poor, but they have won most of the time when expected to (as favorites). 

    Good fortune on your plays.



     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2017 - 6:07 PM ET #7

    2)  Sasquatches +2 Win

    Predict the next week line will be Saskatchewan -2.5 over Toronto.....away favorites have been dismal in the playoffs, and I would look to play the Argos if they come a dog.

    Other game is at the half 10-10.
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    2)  Sasquatches +2 Win

    Predict the next week line will be Saskatchewan -2.5 over Toronto.....away favorites have been dismal in the playoffs, and I would look to play the Argos if they come a dog.

    Other game is at the half 10-10.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2017 - 6:21 PM ET #8

    All they talked about on the radio on Edm/Wpg game was all aboot Ed's MOMENTUM...

    Its was all down hill for the books after that posting that wacky number on Edmonchuck.

    Books anticipating public perception.

    Always enjoy reading your thoughts Sir...

    Week 21?

    LOL


    Winterpeg for the Grey coupe!


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    All they talked about on the radio on Edm/Wpg game was all aboot Ed's MOMENTUM...

    Its was all down hill for the books after that posting that wacky number on Edmonchuck.

    Books anticipating public perception.

    Always enjoy reading your thoughts Sir...

    Week 21?

    LOL


    Winterpeg for the Grey coupe!


     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 13, 2017 - 2:52 AM ET #9

    2)  Bombers +3  Loss

    1-1 in the playoffs to take my record to 34-25 ATS for the season.

    Thanks for stopping by 23.

    Saw some posters go 2-0 in this playoffs, congrats....let's see ya do it again this week.


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    2)  Bombers +3  Loss

    1-1 in the playoffs to take my record to 34-25 ATS for the season.

    Thanks for stopping by 23.

    Saw some posters go 2-0 in this playoffs, congrats....let's see ya do it again this week.


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