I've looked this game over and I don't see that Illinois has a chance. Can anyone give me anything that I'm missing about Illinois? All I've seen out of them is they're an above average defensive team and they shoot a ton of 3s.
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I've looked this game over and I don't see that Illinois has a chance. Can anyone give me anything that I'm missing about Illinois? All I've seen out of them is they're an above average defensive team and they shoot a ton of 3s.
You just made the case against yourself. Illinois plays good D and shoots a ton of 3s. In a won and done game, defense and 3s are usually what wins it for you. Illinois is not a team that gets to the line 20+ times a game. If they got hot from 3, they are deadly. They have 3 solid guards who can hit the outside shot plus their big men can hit it from long-range from time to time. Colorado played in a much weaker conference than Illinois, so that does play a big factor.
With all that being said, I will be going with Colorado in my bracket and a no bet otherwise. Dinwiddie can go shot for shot with Paul/Richardson. Should be an interesting game.
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You just made the case against yourself. Illinois plays good D and shoots a ton of 3s. In a won and done game, defense and 3s are usually what wins it for you. Illinois is not a team that gets to the line 20+ times a game. If they got hot from 3, they are deadly. They have 3 solid guards who can hit the outside shot plus their big men can hit it from long-range from time to time. Colorado played in a much weaker conference than Illinois, so that does play a big factor.
With all that being said, I will be going with Colorado in my bracket and a no bet otherwise. Dinwiddie can go shot for shot with Paul/Richardson. Should be an interesting game.
I should have elaborated a bit. Illinois shoots 32.5% from three which is 242nd in the nation. I don't think they'll get a lot of offensive rebounds either. I do understand the PAC 12 argument though.
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I should have elaborated a bit. Illinois shoots 32.5% from three which is 242nd in the nation. I don't think they'll get a lot of offensive rebounds either. I do understand the PAC 12 argument though.
Best play imo is the Under Colorado defends the 3 pretty good and thats all Illinois lives by, also Colorado plays half court bball which is a under bettors best friend.
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Best play imo is the Under Colorado defends the 3 pretty good and thats all Illinois lives by, also Colorado plays half court bball which is a under bettors best friend.
I really like Colorado in this game, but of course I am biased. The fact that Illinois doesn't get a lot of their scoring inside should work to Colorado's advantage, because CU isn't deep on size. Roberson (nations top rebounder--also led the P12 in steals) is a fantastic rebounded and internal defender, but he's really the only one on that end of the floor. Illinois will try and go fast and be about pace, which is something CU excels at, especially in transition. If Brandon Paul is hitting his three's early, CU might be in trouble, but overall the Illini are very inconsistent as a team--and this shows in their schedule/record.
I see CU getting a lot of FT's, which they're going to have to make, because as a team they struggle there.
Dinwiddie is the real deal, can score and distribute very well, as well as get to the line. Roberson on offense can stretch the floor and make 3's from the corner, as well as slash and get to the rim.
Betting wise, I'd be a little afraid of the under in this one--I can see it being played in the 60's or 70's due to the pace.
Ultimately, I see this one being decided by 6 or less points either way. Neither team is equipped to blow the other out, barring a horrendous shooting day or the other team shooting at a 70% clip. I like the Buffs here based on their defense and their rebounding ability. Look for CU to get to the FT line and get Illinois in foul trouble early, make them play with their 2nd unit. CU's scoring is more spread out, which hopefully works to their advantage if someone gets in foul trouble.
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I really like Colorado in this game, but of course I am biased. The fact that Illinois doesn't get a lot of their scoring inside should work to Colorado's advantage, because CU isn't deep on size. Roberson (nations top rebounder--also led the P12 in steals) is a fantastic rebounded and internal defender, but he's really the only one on that end of the floor. Illinois will try and go fast and be about pace, which is something CU excels at, especially in transition. If Brandon Paul is hitting his three's early, CU might be in trouble, but overall the Illini are very inconsistent as a team--and this shows in their schedule/record.
I see CU getting a lot of FT's, which they're going to have to make, because as a team they struggle there.
Dinwiddie is the real deal, can score and distribute very well, as well as get to the line. Roberson on offense can stretch the floor and make 3's from the corner, as well as slash and get to the rim.
Betting wise, I'd be a little afraid of the under in this one--I can see it being played in the 60's or 70's due to the pace.
Ultimately, I see this one being decided by 6 or less points either way. Neither team is equipped to blow the other out, barring a horrendous shooting day or the other team shooting at a 70% clip. I like the Buffs here based on their defense and their rebounding ability. Look for CU to get to the FT line and get Illinois in foul trouble early, make them play with their 2nd unit. CU's scoring is more spread out, which hopefully works to their advantage if someone gets in foul trouble.
i will be betting against the big ten starting tonight with Indiana st and West Ill vs iowa and purdue. this 1st round will b the real time to exploit the inflated lines imo. top tier(5) all giving too many points and minn and illinois wont both advance and i bet(and i will bet) that neither advance. my 2 cents, clearly im not sold on big ten.
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i will be betting against the big ten starting tonight with Indiana st and West Ill vs iowa and purdue. this 1st round will b the real time to exploit the inflated lines imo. top tier(5) all giving too many points and minn and illinois wont both advance and i bet(and i will bet) that neither advance. my 2 cents, clearly im not sold on big ten.
Illinois is tough to peg because they rely so much on Brandon Paul and their outside shooting. I think they will have to get hot in order to win any games in the tourney. I don't think they have a strong enough inside presence to overcome a subpar night shooting.
I think Colorado has the better chance to get the W, but I would not touch it ATS.
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Illinois is tough to peg because they rely so much on Brandon Paul and their outside shooting. I think they will have to get hot in order to win any games in the tourney. I don't think they have a strong enough inside presence to overcome a subpar night shooting.
I think Colorado has the better chance to get the W, but I would not touch it ATS.
Does anyone think CU/Illinois has a shot against Miami?
Colorado only based off of experience last year. Miami loves the three. Teams can be difficult to beat or anything is possible if it isn't falling. Teams can't try to outscore them, slow down only.
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Quote Originally Posted by msluckyblue:
Does anyone think CU/Illinois has a shot against Miami?
Colorado only based off of experience last year. Miami loves the three. Teams can be difficult to beat or anything is possible if it isn't falling. Teams can't try to outscore them, slow down only.
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