All Forums | College Basketball

Give me one good reason to take....

...
Participants:
Search model icon
Views: 2200
Posts: 21
 
Rookie
Participation Meter
Joined: Jan, 2013
Posts: 565
Posted: #1

Penn State other than Vegas has them as an unranked favorite over a ranked team? Seems like people dont even cap these games, just look at the unranked fave vs ranked team. Even if Cook is out....

 

Anyone? 

 
Banned
Participation Meter
Joined: Dec, 2004
Posts: 14064
Posted: #2
Eddie Winslow is on them...

There...happy?...

PM for the skinny on the down low
 
Rookie
Participation Meter
Joined: Jan, 2013
Posts: 565
Posted: #3

Quote Originally Posted by smacksmiter:

Eddie Winslow is on them...There...happy?...

 

 

Lol 

 
Veteran
Participation Meter
Joined: Aug, 2009
Posts: 3257
Posted: #4

The lines are really sharp in those matchups.

This past week there was 2 unraked favorites that lost to the ranked underdogs.

 
Veteran
Participation Meter
Joined: Aug, 2009
Posts: 3257
Posted: #5

I think both lines were -1.5 as well lol. texas tech and villanova

 
Rookie
Participation Meter
Joined: Jan, 2013
Posts: 565
Posted: #6

Quote Originally Posted by alekim:

The lines are really sharp in those matchups. This past week there was 2 unraked favorites that lost to the ranked underdogs.

 

This is true... However I was wanting a reasoning other than that angle....

 
Rookie
Participation Meter
Joined: Jan, 2013
Posts: 565
Posted: #7

Quote Originally Posted by alekim:

I think both lines were -1.5 as well lol. texas tech and villanova

 

Oh sorry I read your previous post wrong. Yeah, you are correct. And to go off of that, Iowa was 2 pt underdogs to unranked NW a week ago with Tyler cook out and still rolled. 

 
Legend
Participation Meter
Joined: Oct, 2002
Posts: 54464
Posted: #8
I think you are looking at this game wrong. Tell me why anyone should like Iowa? Missing best player and on the road?? Are they really a top 25 team? On a neutral coirt theres no way they would only be a dog or pick em to 20ish teams.....Dont let a ranking lead you to believe a team is better than they are. They got whooped on the road at purdue and mich st....yes, they beat Neb and OSU (i bet on Iowa).....Let your eyes and experience guide you, not sports writers.  Of course Iowa can win this game, i mean PSU is 7-10 and have lost 4 straight. However, the linemakers are telling you that tonight Penn St is the better team. Do you believe them and experience, or trust Iowa on the road and the guys that rank teams?


 
Rookie
Participation Meter
Joined: Jan, 2013
Posts: 565
Posted: #9

Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:

I think you are looking at this game wrong. Tell me why anyone should like Iowa? Missing best player and on the road?? Are they really a top 25 team? On a neutral coirt theres no way they would only be a dog or pick em to 20ish teams.....Dont let a ranking lead you to believe a team is better than they are. They got whooped on the road at purdue and mich st....yes, they beat Neb and OSU (i bet on Iowa).....Let your eyes and experience guide you, not sports writers.  Of course Iowa can win this game, i mean PSU is 7-10 and have lost 4 straight. However, the linemakers are telling you that tonight Penn St is the better team. Do you believe them and experience, or trust Iowa on the road and the guys that rank teams?

 

So your reasoning is because the odds makers make Iowa a favorite?

 

 
Rookie
Participation Meter
Joined: Jan, 2013
Posts: 565
Posted: #10

Quote Originally Posted by Hawks4life:

Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:

I think you are looking at this game wrong. Tell me why anyone should like Iowa? Missing best player and on the road?? Are they really a top 25 team? On a neutral coirt theres no way they would only be a dog or pick em to 20ish teams.....Dont let a ranking lead you to believe a team is better than they are. They got whooped on the road at purdue and mich st....yes, they beat Neb and OSU (i bet on Iowa).....Let your eyes and experience guide you, not sports writers.  Of course Iowa can win this game, i mean PSU is 7-10 and have lost 4 straight. However, the linemakers are telling you that tonight Penn St is the better team. Do you believe them and experience, or trust Iowa on the road and the guys that rank teams?
  So your reasoning is because the odds makers make Penn State a favorite?

I mean Penn State sorry

 
Rookie
Participation Meter
Joined: Jan, 2013
Posts: 565
Posted: #11

I am not saying Iowa is the right pick. Just wondering other than the odds makers making them a favorite, reasoning to bet Penn State. 

 

On another note:

 

Penn State is 2-8-2 ATS in their L11 overall and 1-5 in L6 home games. Penn state also 1-5 ATS in their L6 vs the big 10 and 0-4-1 ATS in last wed games (fwiw on that stat)

 

 

 
Banned
Participation Meter
Joined: Dec, 2004
Posts: 14064
Posted: #12
Quote Originally Posted by Hawks4life:

 

So your reasoning is because the odds makers make Iowa a favorite?

 


Bro...you ask that question as if it's not based in reality or as if his statement has questionable validity...

The books and line makers have information...algorithms...and steam WE don't have access to...

The absolute FIRST thing you need to respect in sports betting is where that line is set by them when it comes out...

PM for the skinny on the down low
 
All-Star
Participation Meter
Joined: Jan, 2008
Posts: 14199
Posted: #13
Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:

I think you are looking at this game wrong. Tell me why anyone should like Iowa? Missing best player and on the road?? Are they really a top 25 team? On a neutral coirt theres no way they would only be a dog or pick em to 20ish teams.....Dont let a ranking lead you to believe a team is better than they are. They got whooped on the road at purdue and mich st....yes, they beat Neb and OSU (i bet on Iowa).....Let your eyes and experience guide you, not sports writers.  Of course Iowa can win this game, i mean PSU is 7-10 and have lost 4 straight. However, the linemakers are telling you that tonight Penn St is the better team. Do you believe them and experience, or trust Iowa on the road and the guys that rank teams?


not to mention Watkins and Stevens both dominated in the two matchups last year. No reason to expect different tonight. Iowa will need to shoot the lights out to win this one IMO, possible but ill roll with state.
buy $BTC
 
Rookie
Participation Meter
Joined: Jan, 2013
Posts: 565
Posted: #14

Quote Originally Posted by smacksmiter:

Quote Originally Posted by Hawks4life:

  So your reasoning is because the odds makers make Iowa a favorite?  
Bro...you ask that question as if it's not based in reality or as if his statement has questionable validity...The books and line makers have information...algorithms...and steam WE don't have access to...The absolute FIRST thing you need to respect in sports betting is where that line is set by them when it comes out...

 

Man thanks. I must be such a newbie at this.... 

 
Legend
Participation Meter
Joined: Oct, 2002
Posts: 54464
Posted: #15
Quote Originally Posted by Hawks4life:

 

So your reasoning is because the odds makers make Iowa a favorite?

 

If thats all you took from what I said then I can be of no further assistance.
 
Banned
Participation Meter
Joined: Dec, 2004
Posts: 14064
Posted: #16
Quote Originally Posted by Hawks4life:

Bro...you ask that question as if it's not based in reality or as if his statement has questionable validity...The books and line makers have information...algorithms...and steam WE don't have access to...The absolute FIRST thing you need to respect in sports betting is where that line is set by them when it comes out...

 

Man thanks. I must be such a newbie at this.... 


Bro starts a thread...asks for help...

Then slams a helpful bro with the /sarc when he gets help...

I see I can be of no further assistance here...

Good luck

PM for the skinny on the down low
 
Captain
Participation Meter
Joined: Dec, 2008
Posts: 8308
Posted: #17
The first issue is that Iowa isn't actually ranked team. 

You know that the AP poll isn't a legitimate measure of a team's strength/weakness. It's voted on by a collection of lazy beat writers, most of whom scroll through box scores once a week and submit a ballot.

Here's where Iowa stands in the actual metrics:

KenPom: #34
Haslametrics: #40
Sagarin: #37
ESPN BPI: #33
NCAA NET: #30

So you have the (approximately) 35th ranked team in the country travelling to the (approximately) 65th ranked team in the country. That's not much of a gap, and it's reduced by another 3-4 points when allocating for home court advantage.  


 
Rookie
Participation Meter
Joined: Jan, 2013
Posts: 565
Posted: #18

Quote Originally Posted by JFen31:

The first issue is that Iowa isn't actually ranked team. You know that the AP poll isn't a legitimate measure of a team's strength/weakness. It's voted on by a collection of lazy beat writers, most of whom scroll through box scores once a week and submit a ballot.Here's where Iowa stands in the actual metrics:KenPom: #34Haslametrics: #40Sagarin: #37ESPN BPI: #33NCAA NET: #30So you have the (approximately) 35th ranked team in the country travelling to the (approximately) 65th ranked team in the country. That's not much of a gap, and it's reduced by another 3-4 points when allocating for home court advantage.

 

Thank you for your analysis. I was waiting for someone to come up with an answer other than because the odds makers. Thanks JFen! Appreciate the post! 

 
All-Star
Participation Meter
Joined: Jan, 2008
Posts: 14199
Posted: #19
back 2 back days of JFen31!!
buy $BTC
 
Legend
Participation Meter
Joined: Oct, 2002
Posts: 54464
Posted: #20
Quote Originally Posted by Hawks4life:

 

Thank you for your analysis. I was waiting for someone to come up with an answer other than because the odds makers. Thanks JFen! Appreciate the post! 

Guess you really didn't read my post.....
 
 
Rookie
Participation Meter
Joined: Jan, 2013
Posts: 565
Posted: #21

I read it lol 

All Forums | College Basketball
About Us
Contact Us
Careers
Our Team
Brand
Testimonials
Betting Guides
Sportsbook Reviews
Sports Betting News
Podcasts
Responsible Gaming
Sports Betting
US Betting Sites
Canada Betting Sites
Canada Casinos
Best Betting Apps
Contests
Streak Survivor
King of Covers
Ultimate Race
Office Pools
The Covers community has
618,670
lifetime members worldwide
Covers 25 Years Logo Established in 1995,
Covers is the world
leader in sports
betting information.
Site Map Help Privacy Terms of Service youtube logo facebook logo twitter logo instagram logo linkedin logo google news logo
Covers is verified safe by: Evalon Logo GPWA Logo GDPR Logo GeoTrust Logo Evalon Logo
Copyright © 1995 - 2024 CS Media Limited All Rights Reserved.

If you choose to make use of any information on this website including online sports betting services from any websites that may be featured on this website, we strongly recommend that you carefully check your local laws before doing so.It is your sole responsibility to understand your local laws and observe them strictly.Covers does not provide any advice or guidance as to the legality of online sports betting or other online gambling activities within your jurisdiction and you are responsible for complying with laws that are applicable to you in your relevant locality.Covers disclaims all liability associated with your use of this website and use of any information contained on it.As a condition of using this website, you agree to hold the owner of this website harmless from any claims arising from your use of any services on any third party website that may be featured by Covers.