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    HAS DUKE....

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    Posted: Apr. 5, 2015 - 2:09 PM ET #1

    had the easiest "recent" schedule up until the tourney and the tourney itself?

    had lesser games with their starting 5 than Wisconsin's has had w/ theirs?

    ever faced a team as dynamic as Wisconsin this year?


    Please compare their last 5 opponents to Wisconsin's last 5.

    Please discuss any angles/stats/opinions here.

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    had the easiest "recent" schedule up until the tourney and the tourney itself?

    had lesser games with their starting 5 than Wisconsin's has had w/ theirs?

    ever faced a team as dynamic as Wisconsin this year?


    Please compare their last 5 opponents to Wisconsin's last 5.

    Please discuss any angles/stats/opinions here.

    Thanks
     
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    Posted: Apr. 5, 2015 - 2:15 PM ET #2

    TOTALLY AGREE! JUST COMPARE THE LAST 2 GAMES BOTH TEAMS PLAYED!

    WISC PLAYED PROBABLY THE BEST TWO TEAMS IN THE COUNTRY IN KENTUCKY AND ARIZONA!

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    TOTALLY AGREE! JUST COMPARE THE LAST 2 GAMES BOTH TEAMS PLAYED!

    WISC PLAYED PROBABLY THE BEST TWO TEAMS IN THE COUNTRY IN KENTUCKY AND ARIZONA!

     
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    Posted: Apr. 6, 2015 - 11:40 AM ET #3

    Wisconsin offense is so hard to guard ... Kaminsky versatility is the key ... Only chance Duke has is an off night by Wisky offense ...
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    Wisconsin offense is so hard to guard ... Kaminsky versatility is the key ... Only chance Duke has is an off night by Wisky offense ...
     
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    Posted: Apr. 6, 2015 - 11:45 AM ET #4

    Duke guards look like 6th graders . Yes, I know they play great, but that fro sticking out looks awful, like a bobblehead. Too many frosh. Wisconsin can do this, with better leadership and execution than their first meeting...
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    Duke guards look like 6th graders . Yes, I know they play great, but that fro sticking out looks awful, like a bobblehead. Too many frosh. Wisconsin can do this, with better leadership and execution than their first meeting...
     
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    Posted: Apr. 6, 2015 - 12:12 PM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:

    had the easiest "recent" schedule up until the tourney and the tourney itself?

    had lesser games with their starting 5 than Wisconsin's has had w/ theirs?

    ever faced a team as dynamic as Wisconsin this year?


    Please compare their last 5 opponents to Wisconsin's last 5.

    Please discuss any angles/stats/opinions here.

    Thanks

    Um yeah they face Wisconsin already ane beat them as a underdog at Wisconsin in December . 

    Now there a underdog again on neutral court . Both team are playing at high level. I take duke here with coach k . 
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    Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:

    had the easiest "recent" schedule up until the tourney and the tourney itself?

    had lesser games with their starting 5 than Wisconsin's has had w/ theirs?

    ever faced a team as dynamic as Wisconsin this year?


    Please compare their last 5 opponents to Wisconsin's last 5.

    Please discuss any angles/stats/opinions here.

    Thanks

    Um yeah they face Wisconsin already ane beat them as a underdog at Wisconsin in December . 

    Now there a underdog again on neutral court . Both team are playing at high level. I take duke here with coach k . 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pho-20:


    Um yeah they face Wisconsin already ane beat them as a underdog at Wisconsin in December . 

    Now there a underdog again on neutral court . Both team are playing at high level. I take duke here with coach k . 

    how can you put so much emphasis on a game played way back in December!!!...man, this the Nat'l championship!!!...and the badgers have been destroying everybody!.....Oregon unc...Arizona kentucky .....who had the rougher tournament schedule....that's an easy answer!!......putting away #1 seeds like they were just another game!..and they won the big ten tournament just as a warm up prior to the ncaa tournament.....Badgers maturity will show up again tonite!....they are FOCUSED and in DESTROY MODE!

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    Um yeah they face Wisconsin already ane beat them as a underdog at Wisconsin in December . 

    Now there a underdog again on neutral court . Both team are playing at high level. I take duke here with coach k . 

    how can you put so much emphasis on a game played way back in December!!!...man, this the Nat'l championship!!!...and the badgers have been destroying everybody!.....Oregon unc...Arizona kentucky .....who had the rougher tournament schedule....that's an easy answer!!......putting away #1 seeds like they were just another game!..and they won the big ten tournament just as a warm up prior to the ncaa tournament.....Badgers maturity will show up again tonite!....they are FOCUSED and in DESTROY MODE!

     
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    Posted: Apr. 6, 2015 - 12:48 PM ET #7

    Has Duke faced a team as Dynamic as Wisc?  Yes they played Wisc earlier this year and took them down by 10, that's not close either...

    I don't care about the last 5 games so much as I care about what did Duke vs. Wisc do against similar competition...  And in that instance Duke manhandled Mich St and Wisc, where Wisc squeezed out the Big 10 Championship from Mich St late (with some helpful ref calls) and they just did the same to UK.  

    My money will be on Duke, whom has the two most talented players on the floor and the best coach in college.  And I'm a West coast guy so I have no dog in this fight aside from making money...
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    Has Duke faced a team as Dynamic as Wisc?  Yes they played Wisc earlier this year and took them down by 10, that's not close either...

    I don't care about the last 5 games so much as I care about what did Duke vs. Wisc do against similar competition...  And in that instance Duke manhandled Mich St and Wisc, where Wisc squeezed out the Big 10 Championship from Mich St late (with some helpful ref calls) and they just did the same to UK.  

    My money will be on Duke, whom has the two most talented players on the floor and the best coach in college.  And I'm a West coast guy so I have no dog in this fight aside from making money...
     
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    Posted: Apr. 6, 2015 - 12:53 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by gd2436:

    how can you put so much emphasis on a game played way back in December!!!...man, this the Nat'l championship!!!...and the badgers have been destroying everybody!.....Oregon unc...Arizona kentucky .....who had the rougher tournament schedule....that's an easy answer!!......putting away #1 seeds like they were just another game!..and they won the big ten tournament just as a warm up prior to the ncaa tournament.....Badgers maturity will show up again tonite!....they are FOCUSED and in DESTROY MODE!

    Well they put away one #1 seed UK and it was rather dirty with some officiating help late, they'll have no such luck against Duke.  And yeah that game in Dec mattered, it was @ Wisc and they still got handled...  I realize you won't be talked off your position on Wisc, but don't just spew BS to make yourself feel better, just understand that if and when Duke wins, all the indicators were there to tell you they were fully capable of winning this no matter what your emotions were telling you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gd2436:

    how can you put so much emphasis on a game played way back in December!!!...man, this the Nat'l championship!!!...and the badgers have been destroying everybody!.....Oregon unc...Arizona kentucky .....who had the rougher tournament schedule....that's an easy answer!!......putting away #1 seeds like they were just another game!..and they won the big ten tournament just as a warm up prior to the ncaa tournament.....Badgers maturity will show up again tonite!....they are FOCUSED and in DESTROY MODE!

    Well they put away one #1 seed UK and it was rather dirty with some officiating help late, they'll have no such luck against Duke.  And yeah that game in Dec mattered, it was @ Wisc and they still got handled...  I realize you won't be talked off your position on Wisc, but don't just spew BS to make yourself feel better, just understand that if and when Duke wins, all the indicators were there to tell you they were fully capable of winning this no matter what your emotions were telling you.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorelord:

    Has Duke faced a team as Dynamic as Wisc?  Yes they played Wisc earlier this year and took them down by 10, that's not close either...

    I don't care about the last 5 games so much as I care about what did Duke vs. Wisc do against similar competition...  And in that instance Duke manhandled Mich St and Wisc, where Wisc squeezed out the Big 10 Championship from Mich St late (with some helpful ref calls) and they just did the same to UK.  

    My money will be on Duke, whom has the two most talented players on the floor and the best coach in college.  And I'm a West coast guy so I have no dog in this fight aside from making money...

     

    You do realize Duke shot 70% in that game and Decker was injured right? 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorelord:

    Has Duke faced a team as Dynamic as Wisc?  Yes they played Wisc earlier this year and took them down by 10, that's not close either...

    I don't care about the last 5 games so much as I care about what did Duke vs. Wisc do against similar competition...  And in that instance Duke manhandled Mich St and Wisc, where Wisc squeezed out the Big 10 Championship from Mich St late (with some helpful ref calls) and they just did the same to UK.  

    My money will be on Duke, whom has the two most talented players on the floor and the best coach in college.  And I'm a West coast guy so I have no dog in this fight aside from making money...

     

    You do realize Duke shot 70% in that game and Decker was injured right? 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorelord:

    so put your money on duke  and watch it go down the drain!!...badgers put away a lot better teams than duke did in this tourney!!!  and just why does that December game mean so much ...obviously you are a die hard duke fan who will have some lame brained excuse why they lost tonite!!!...did you watch the game with Kentucky and wisky....Kentucky got a hell of a lot more calls their way than wisky!!..if it makes you feel better, bet on duke and im sure you will blame a loss tonite on something...you seem to be as immature as the starters from Kentucky and duke combined!!...badgers roll tonite ...then we will see what your big YAP will have to say!!....like I said, you are the type of person who will be loaded with lame brained excuses to explain a duke loss!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorelord:

    so put your money on duke  and watch it go down the drain!!...badgers put away a lot better teams than duke did in this tourney!!!  and just why does that December game mean so much ...obviously you are a die hard duke fan who will have some lame brained excuse why they lost tonite!!!...did you watch the game with Kentucky and wisky....Kentucky got a hell of a lot more calls their way than wisky!!..if it makes you feel better, bet on duke and im sure you will blame a loss tonite on something...you seem to be as immature as the starters from Kentucky and duke combined!!...badgers roll tonite ...then we will see what your big YAP will have to say!!....like I said, you are the type of person who will be loaded with lame brained excuses to explain a duke loss!!!!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by LETGOPACK1234:

     

    You do realize Duke shot 70% in that game and Decker was injured right? 

    I doubt if this clown even saw the game !!!!...probably just read rhat duke beat wisky and now he thinks they will do it again!..........sounds to me like he is just a die hard duke fan and knows absolutely nothing about college hoops !!!

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    You do realize Duke shot 70% in that game and Decker was injured right? 

    I doubt if this clown even saw the game !!!!...probably just read rhat duke beat wisky and now he thinks they will do it again!..........sounds to me like he is just a die hard duke fan and knows absolutely nothing about college hoops !!!

     
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    Posted: Apr. 6, 2015 - 4:04 PM ET #12

    1 stat I liked that I saw this morning....   

    Coach K has never beaten a #1 seed in the Championship Game.   All of his titles have come against #2 seeds or worse.
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    1 stat I liked that I saw this morning....   

    Coach K has never beaten a #1 seed in the Championship Game.   All of his titles have come against #2 seeds or worse.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 6, 2015 - 4:11 PM ET #13

    Their only meeting is tough to go off.  As the teams were completely different.

    Wisky had Jackson healthy who got them 25pts.  Duke had Sulamon who got them 14pts.  And Winslow wasn't the difference maker he is now.

    I think this game simply comes down to who has the better game between Winslow/Dekker.

    Duke has more big bodies to get through minor foul trouble to Okafor (If that occured) but Wisky doesn't have that luxory if Kaminsky picks up a few quick ones.
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    Their only meeting is tough to go off.  As the teams were completely different.

    Wisky had Jackson healthy who got them 25pts.  Duke had Sulamon who got them 14pts.  And Winslow wasn't the difference maker he is now.

    I think this game simply comes down to who has the better game between Winslow/Dekker.

    Duke has more big bodies to get through minor foul trouble to Okafor (If that occured) but Wisky doesn't have that luxory if Kaminsky picks up a few quick ones.
     
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    All the reasons you post make me like Duke. This isn't a movie. Wisconsin has expended so much energy to beat Arizona and Kentucky. ( kentucky clearly their SB) Duke. Has taken care of business, not their fault teams lost to bad teams. Duke is well rested and is a really bad match up for wisconsin. They will switch all ball screens and have a dominant big with a bunch of shooters. Wisconsin gameplan vs kentucky was beat us by shooting, can't do that vs Duke or will get torched. Nobody on Wisconsin can guard okafor or Winslow without help defense.
    That being said Bo is an excellent coach, and they have a ton of talent, but I think the edge is in dukes favor. Also, ND almost beat/should've beat Kentucky I wouldn't invest too much in that win. They were ready to lose.
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    All the reasons you post make me like Duke. This isn't a movie. Wisconsin has expended so much energy to beat Arizona and Kentucky. ( kentucky clearly their SB) Duke. Has taken care of business, not their fault teams lost to bad teams. Duke is well rested and is a really bad match up for wisconsin. They will switch all ball screens and have a dominant big with a bunch of shooters. Wisconsin gameplan vs kentucky was beat us by shooting, can't do that vs Duke or will get torched. Nobody on Wisconsin can guard okafor or Winslow without help defense.
    That being said Bo is an excellent coach, and they have a ton of talent, but I think the edge is in dukes favor. Also, ND almost beat/should've beat Kentucky I wouldn't invest too much in that win. They were ready to lose.
     
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    I agree with chitownbets that Duke ML seems (to me) to be the play tonight.  I can understand why money is flowing towards Badgers though.  They really have played a few great games in a row now.  If they continue to play disciplined and take care of the ball and do not make bad fouls, then Wisky will be in this till the end.  Overall though I like Duke's guards with how they excel in both penetration *and* sharp shooting.  I see this game being a very close game all the way to the end but with Duke making that last late push combined with desperation fouls by Wisky in the end leading to a Duke 6 point victory.  Looking forward to a wonderful game!
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    I agree with chitownbets that Duke ML seems (to me) to be the play tonight.  I can understand why money is flowing towards Badgers though.  They really have played a few great games in a row now.  If they continue to play disciplined and take care of the ball and do not make bad fouls, then Wisky will be in this till the end.  Overall though I like Duke's guards with how they excel in both penetration *and* sharp shooting.  I see this game being a very close game all the way to the end but with Duke making that last late push combined with desperation fouls by Wisky in the end leading to a Duke 6 point victory.  Looking forward to a wonderful game!
     
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    Posted: Apr. 6, 2015 - 8:12 PM ET #16

    ND  took Duke apart in the ACC tourney did that game mean much too duke hard to say but that tells me they aren't quite ready for this big of a Game. WISCY for me. 

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    ND  took Duke apart in the ACC tourney did that game mean much too duke hard to say but that tells me they aren't quite ready for this big of a Game. WISCY for me. 

     
     
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    Posted: May. 21, 2015 - 8:12 PM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by gd2436:

    so put your money on duke  and watch it go down the drain!!...badgers put away a lot better teams than duke did in this tourney!!!  and just why does that December game mean so much ...obviously you are a die hard duke fan who will have some lame brained excuse why they lost tonite!!!...did you watch the game with Kentucky and wisky....Kentucky got a hell of a lot more calls their way than wisky!!..if it makes you feel better, bet on duke and im sure you will blame a loss tonite on something...you seem to be as immature as the starters from Kentucky and duke combined!!...badgers roll tonite ...then we will see what your big YAP will have to say!!....like I said, you are the type of person who will be loaded with lame brained excuses to explain a duke loss!!!!


    What happened clown-boy???  Yeah, you were dead wrong as usual you Wisconsin tool!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gd2436:

    so put your money on duke  and watch it go down the drain!!...badgers put away a lot better teams than duke did in this tourney!!!  and just why does that December game mean so much ...obviously you are a die hard duke fan who will have some lame brained excuse why they lost tonite!!!...did you watch the game with Kentucky and wisky....Kentucky got a hell of a lot more calls their way than wisky!!..if it makes you feel better, bet on duke and im sure you will blame a loss tonite on something...you seem to be as immature as the starters from Kentucky and duke combined!!...badgers roll tonite ...then we will see what your big YAP will have to say!!....like I said, you are the type of person who will be loaded with lame brained excuses to explain a duke loss!!!!


    What happened clown-boy???  Yeah, you were dead wrong as usual you Wisconsin tool!!!
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