N.Illinois is the best team in the MAC but Toledo is no stranger when it comes to playing games against top teams. They already played against 2 MAC teams that were 5-0 or better in the conference at one point of the season (Ball State, Buffalo), one team that started 3-0 in the conference (Bowling Green, 5-1 in the MAC so far this season), 1 team that started 7-0 overall (Missouri), and two games on the road against SEC teams (Mississippi State and then ranked Florida). And how about those other out of conference opponents like E.Washington (2nd best team in division II, team that won @ Oregon State), or always dangerous Navy ? This is a team that is red hot right now, clicking on all cylinders, scoring 45 or more in 4 of last 5 games, winning all 5 home games this season. Northern Illinois is a good football team, and I am not taking anything away from them. Their game against Ball State proved that. But other than Ball State they played a very easy schedule this season, with best opponents being Ball State and Iowa. It is not their fault that teams like Purdue and Kent State are having a very bad season, but it is their fault that they had hard time beating teams like Idaho and Akron. These two teams are 5-16 on the season. They also escaped E.Illinois (good division II team) with a 4 pts win. E.Illinois led almost the entire game, leading 20-0 early on. Toledo is a very good team at home, this is their last home game of the season and home dogs in revenge situation playing their last home game of the season are usually very good. I am all over Toledo +3 (-119).
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N.Illinois is the best team in the MAC but Toledo is no stranger when it comes to playing games against top teams. They already played against 2 MAC teams that were 5-0 or better in the conference at one point of the season (Ball State, Buffalo), one team that started 3-0 in the conference (Bowling Green, 5-1 in the MAC so far this season), 1 team that started 7-0 overall (Missouri), and two games on the road against SEC teams (Mississippi State and then ranked Florida). And how about those other out of conference opponents like E.Washington (2nd best team in division II, team that won @ Oregon State), or always dangerous Navy ? This is a team that is red hot right now, clicking on all cylinders, scoring 45 or more in 4 of last 5 games, winning all 5 home games this season. Northern Illinois is a good football team, and I am not taking anything away from them. Their game against Ball State proved that. But other than Ball State they played a very easy schedule this season, with best opponents being Ball State and Iowa. It is not their fault that teams like Purdue and Kent State are having a very bad season, but it is their fault that they had hard time beating teams like Idaho and Akron. These two teams are 5-16 on the season. They also escaped E.Illinois (good division II team) with a 4 pts win. E.Illinois led almost the entire game, leading 20-0 early on. Toledo is a very good team at home, this is their last home game of the season and home dogs in revenge situation playing their last home game of the season are usually very good. I am all over Toledo +3 (-119).
Problem I have is that they can't hold a 21 pt lead against bowling green.....can't hold a 10 pt lead against navy.....can't hold a 38 pt lead against buffalo.......what are they going to do when they are trailjng 7-0 or 10-0?
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Problem I have is that they can't hold a 21 pt lead against bowling green.....can't hold a 10 pt lead against navy.....can't hold a 38 pt lead against buffalo.......what are they going to do when they are trailjng 7-0 or 10-0?
Problem I have is that they can't hold a 21 pt lead against bowling green.....can't hold a 10 pt lead against navy.....can't hold a 38 pt lead against buffalo.......what are they going to do when they are trailjng 7-0 or 10-0?
10 points lead is nothing spectacular, it happens in almost every football game that a team takes a 10 point lead at one point of the game and lose it. Their 21 points lead against Bowling Green came too early, and Bowling Green is a very good MAC team. The lead over Buffalo was so big that they did not care about the game any more once up 38-0 in the 3rd and 48-27 in the 4th. That win was never in question. The important thing is that they won all three games. Guess what, even the best teams in the nation sometimes have hard time holding onto a big lead. Alabama could not hold on a 21 points lead against aTm. They had a 21 pts lead twice late in that game and aTm was able to cut it down to 7 both times. But Alabama win was not really in question. Heck, even aTm had a 14-0 lead in that game against Alabama and lost the game easily. Baylor had hard time holding on to their double digit lead in Kansas State. Oregon had a 14 pts halftime lead against Washington and they entered the 4th quarter up by only 7. Missouri dominated S.Carolina on the scoreboard and lost in OT. Auburn had a 20 points lead in the 2nd quarter and in the 4th quarter against Georgia but needed miracle to win the game. As for Georgia, they had a 27-14 2nd half lead at Vandy and lost the game. My point is, things like that happen every week, even to the best teams out there. I am not scared that Toledo will not be able to come from behind if they trail NIU. They were able to come from behind and tie the game or take the lead three times against Ball State. They did it 4 times against Navy. They trailed Missouri 24-9 but cut it down to 24-23 on the road in just over 7 minutes.
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Quote Originally Posted by Pix:
Problem I have is that they can't hold a 21 pt lead against bowling green.....can't hold a 10 pt lead against navy.....can't hold a 38 pt lead against buffalo.......what are they going to do when they are trailjng 7-0 or 10-0?
10 points lead is nothing spectacular, it happens in almost every football game that a team takes a 10 point lead at one point of the game and lose it. Their 21 points lead against Bowling Green came too early, and Bowling Green is a very good MAC team. The lead over Buffalo was so big that they did not care about the game any more once up 38-0 in the 3rd and 48-27 in the 4th. That win was never in question. The important thing is that they won all three games. Guess what, even the best teams in the nation sometimes have hard time holding onto a big lead. Alabama could not hold on a 21 points lead against aTm. They had a 21 pts lead twice late in that game and aTm was able to cut it down to 7 both times. But Alabama win was not really in question. Heck, even aTm had a 14-0 lead in that game against Alabama and lost the game easily. Baylor had hard time holding on to their double digit lead in Kansas State. Oregon had a 14 pts halftime lead against Washington and they entered the 4th quarter up by only 7. Missouri dominated S.Carolina on the scoreboard and lost in OT. Auburn had a 20 points lead in the 2nd quarter and in the 4th quarter against Georgia but needed miracle to win the game. As for Georgia, they had a 27-14 2nd half lead at Vandy and lost the game. My point is, things like that happen every week, even to the best teams out there. I am not scared that Toledo will not be able to come from behind if they trail NIU. They were able to come from behind and tie the game or take the lead three times against Ball State. They did it 4 times against Navy. They trailed Missouri 24-9 but cut it down to 24-23 on the road in just over 7 minutes.
Great words....fact remains however that both def give up 400+ yds. Both teams can easily win this gm. Over 1h....gm and both team totals half and gm for me.
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Great words....fact remains however that both def give up 400+ yds. Both teams can easily win this gm. Over 1h....gm and both team totals half and gm for me.
Problem I have is that they can't hold a 21 pt lead against bowling green.....can't hold a 10 pt lead against navy.....can't hold a 38 pt lead against buffalo.......what are they going to do when they are trailjng 7-0 or 10-0?
You`re statement of not holding a lead against the 3 teams you mentioned is irrelevant...
That`s because they won all 3 games...LOL.....I don`t get it?
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Quote Originally Posted by Pix:
Problem I have is that they can't hold a 21 pt lead against bowling green.....can't hold a 10 pt lead against navy.....can't hold a 38 pt lead against buffalo.......what are they going to do when they are trailjng 7-0 or 10-0?
You`re statement of not holding a lead against the 3 teams you mentioned is irrelevant...
That`s because they won all 3 games...LOL.....I don`t get it?
Missouri really needs this one. So, why am I
going against them ? Because this team has been known for choking in
important games. The chances are they will choke either this week or
next week against Texas A&M. And I would not be surprised to see
them lose both games. They could get ahead against Ole Miss, but the
Rebels will not quit. They are playing good football, and with this
being their last home game of the season, I can see them give all they
have on the field in the spoiler role.
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Ole Miss +3, big
Missouri really needs this one. So, why am I
going against them ? Because this team has been known for choking in
important games. The chances are they will choke either this week or
next week against Texas A&M. And I would not be surprised to see
them lose both games. They could get ahead against Ole Miss, but the
Rebels will not quit. They are playing good football, and with this
being their last home game of the season, I can see them give all they
have on the field in the spoiler role.
1 more thing ball st beat t Toledo 31-24 NIU beat ball st 48-27!!! easy win here for NIU
Toledo played Ball st on the road, NIU played them at home. Both teams won 37-18 @ Central Michigan, both teams won by 39 at home against Eastern Michigan.
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Quote Originally Posted by My6sen:
1 more thing ball st beat t Toledo 31-24 NIU beat ball st 48-27!!! easy win here for NIU
Toledo played Ball st on the road, NIU played them at home. Both teams won 37-18 @ Central Michigan, both teams won by 39 at home against Eastern Michigan.
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