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    Army-ECU and a few more

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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2024 - 8:54 PM ET #1

    Army -15 over ECU *****
    Think this is the best game on Saturday . Army QB Bryson Dailey heard the chant from the Corp of cadets at Michie Staduin on Saturday blowing out UAB " Heisman,Heisman Heisman" Although he will never get it the Corp and the football team think he can. And maybe Monken his coach . He is a 6 ft 230 pound QB who runs like a fullback but has moves like a halfback. He has one of the strongest arms and if you watched the 2nd or 3rd play of last weeks game On a keeper he stiff armed an UAB line backer for a +40 yds touchdown run. I acknowledge they haven't played big time teams and have beaten Lehigh,FAU,Rice,Tulsa and UAB and are now 5-0....and Bryson has dominated but the way Army runs its option even if ECU changes its tactics and tries to stop Brysons rushing yds he has an arm but more importantly has 2 running backs Udoh and Short. And he can stop and pass to his wr's as the ECU cb's and safeties come up to stop the run. Bryson avgs over 7 yds per carry and has 6 rushing Td's . Army's option triple threat H-back offense control the clock . It's tough playing Army because they dictate what kind of defense you play. Nobody wants to play Army because all week the def coordinators of opposing teams are implementing new def schemes to stop the Army offense . Because Dailey is dominating with his keepers I'm sure ECU main objective is to stop him But Army has 2 running backs Udoh and Short who can score anytime they have the ball. And Armys top RB Robinson is out with a knee injury. I think for the season. Anyway ECU defense is in trouble They have lost to Charlotte,Liberty,Appa St ODU 55-24,31-24,21-19,.. They did open their season vs Norfolk St and win 42-3. Army is No 1 in the country in rushing but more importantly 6-0 ats Black Nites at home vs the Pirates and win big by 25-35 pts . Maybe the Heisman chant will be louder at Michie Staduim and maybe he might get some attention but Bryson Dailey is the real deal and not one cadet gets NIL money . Maybe he will get assigned to Hawaii for a few years but he has to beat Navy for that assignment . ECU in trouble and Black Nite win by +30
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    Army -15 over ECU *****
    Think this is the best game on Saturday . Army QB Bryson Dailey heard the chant from the Corp of cadets at Michie Staduin on Saturday blowing out UAB " Heisman,Heisman Heisman" Although he will never get it the Corp and the football team think he can. And maybe Monken his coach . He is a 6 ft 230 pound QB who runs like a fullback but has moves like a halfback. He has one of the strongest arms and if you watched the 2nd or 3rd play of last weeks game On a keeper he stiff armed an UAB line backer for a +40 yds touchdown run. I acknowledge they haven't played big time teams and have beaten Lehigh,FAU,Rice,Tulsa and UAB and are now 5-0....and Bryson has dominated but the way Army runs its option even if ECU changes its tactics and tries to stop Brysons rushing yds he has an arm but more importantly has 2 running backs Udoh and Short. And he can stop and pass to his wr's as the ECU cb's and safeties come up to stop the run. Bryson avgs over 7 yds per carry and has 6 rushing Td's . Army's option triple threat H-back offense control the clock . It's tough playing Army because they dictate what kind of defense you play. Nobody wants to play Army because all week the def coordinators of opposing teams are implementing new def schemes to stop the Army offense . Because Dailey is dominating with his keepers I'm sure ECU main objective is to stop him But Army has 2 running backs Udoh and Short who can score anytime they have the ball. And Armys top RB Robinson is out with a knee injury. I think for the season. Anyway ECU defense is in trouble They have lost to Charlotte,Liberty,Appa St ODU 55-24,31-24,21-19,.. They did open their season vs Norfolk St and win 42-3. Army is No 1 in the country in rushing but more importantly 6-0 ats Black Nites at home vs the Pirates and win big by 25-35 pts . Maybe the Heisman chant will be louder at Michie Staduim and maybe he might get some attention but Bryson Dailey is the real deal and not one cadet gets NIL money . Maybe he will get assigned to Hawaii for a few years but he has to beat Navy for that assignment . ECU in trouble and Black Nite win by +30
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     BOL on the Black Knights an_cheers

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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2024 - 12:15 AM ET #3

    @Box and one

     East Carolina defense will probably be the best defense army has faced , can Carolina offense score enough vs Army's Defense

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     East Carolina defense will probably be the best defense army has faced , can Carolina offense score enough vs Army's Defense

     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2024 - 12:27 AM ET #4

    Ullaf  ECU defense is probably the best they have faced but its still a tough offense to stop Army D has played superb and with an offense that controls the clock ECU must control the clock and with few chances there offense gets to have the ball its Army advantage .. No matter what your def coaches have taught you they have to come up with a new scheme formations etc. Army knows what the defensive plan is and makes its adjustments . And having an excellent QB who can run it,dish it and has an accurate arm think the Pirates are in for a long day   good luck 

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    Ullaf  ECU defense is probably the best they have faced but its still a tough offense to stop Army D has played superb and with an offense that controls the clock ECU must control the clock and with few chances there offense gets to have the ball its Army advantage .. No matter what your def coaches have taught you they have to come up with a new scheme formations etc. Army knows what the defensive plan is and makes its adjustments . And having an excellent QB who can run it,dish it and has an accurate arm think the Pirates are in for a long day   good luck 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2024 - 6:45 AM ET #5

    Army is legit good. I have been riding them most of the year. Good luck  

    I like BYU -10 for my best bet. It opened at -8.5 and jumped up to 10.5. I see a 20 point shellacking of OSU. OSU cannot run the ball with Ollie Gordon. Talk about playing yourself out of a lot of money by not going in the draft last year. BYU should dominate at home. OSU is a bad team and even worse on the road. But it is Friday Night and anything can happen. 

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    Army is legit good. I have been riding them most of the year. Good luck  

    I like BYU -10 for my best bet. It opened at -8.5 and jumped up to 10.5. I see a 20 point shellacking of OSU. OSU cannot run the ball with Ollie Gordon. Talk about playing yourself out of a lot of money by not going in the draft last year. BYU should dominate at home. OSU is a bad team and even worse on the road. But it is Friday Night and anything can happen. 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2024 - 6:58 AM ET #6

    Good luck Box.  an_cheers

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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2024 - 5:43 PM ET #7

    someone added that an asst coach at ECU coached at Navy so he knew ways to stop Army's option  Its easier said then done though  But it makes me think . Army and Navy are 6-0 . Maybe one of them gets an invite to the championships tourney  No needluck...  looking into BYU  OSU has Ollie and he should carry the ball on every play Don't handicapp BYU football  I know Bohannon the former Baylor QB transferred there, not sure if he starts.. BYU always scares me... I heard they get don't get NIL Money but 2 extra wives . That was a bad joke and don't mean to offend any mormans  out there  Sorry 

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    someone added that an asst coach at ECU coached at Navy so he knew ways to stop Army's option  Its easier said then done though  But it makes me think . Army and Navy are 6-0 . Maybe one of them gets an invite to the championships tourney  No needluck...  looking into BYU  OSU has Ollie and he should carry the ball on every play Don't handicapp BYU football  I know Bohannon the former Baylor QB transferred there, not sure if he starts.. BYU always scares me... I heard they get don't get NIL Money but 2 extra wives . That was a bad joke and don't mean to offend any mormans  out there  Sorry 

     
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    Bryson Dailey   QB will not be stopped by ECU defense. They might slow his dominance down because he is almost unstoppable but his running mates can break open Plus their original RB is ready to play after sitting out most of last year Robinson . He is a slot back that when he turns the  corner can fly. ECU has to figure a way to stop Daileys keeper his options to Robinson now and of course Udoh and Short. And we really haven't seen Dailey throw the ball. He has an outstanding arm and on one of his sweeps when he reads the ECU cb's are coming up to stop his run he will use his arm and hit one of his wr's wide open  . Army pounds East Carolina will its rushing attack and ball control . Granted Army's schedule has been weak but it doesn't matter who they play they just score td's and chew up the clock  Army wins big 

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    Bryson Dailey   QB will not be stopped by ECU defense. They might slow his dominance down because he is almost unstoppable but his running mates can break open Plus their original RB is ready to play after sitting out most of last year Robinson . He is a slot back that when he turns the  corner can fly. ECU has to figure a way to stop Daileys keeper his options to Robinson now and of course Udoh and Short. And we really haven't seen Dailey throw the ball. He has an outstanding arm and on one of his sweeps when he reads the ECU cb's are coming up to stop his run he will use his arm and hit one of his wr's wide open  . Army pounds East Carolina will its rushing attack and ball control . Granted Army's schedule has been weak but it doesn't matter who they play they just score td's and chew up the clock  Army wins big 

     
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     Nice write ups on Army.....Any other games you are looking at?....peace_5

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     Nice write ups on Army.....Any other games you are looking at?....peace_5

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ULLafayettekid:

    @Box and one  East Carolina defense will probably be the best defense army has faced , can Carolina offense score enough vs Army's Defense

    You're kidding me right ?  @ Charlotte.. ECU defense gave up 55 @ Liberty 35

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    @Box and one  East Carolina defense will probably be the best defense army has faced , can Carolina offense score enough vs Army's Defense

    You're kidding me right ?  @ Charlotte.. ECU defense gave up 55 @ Liberty 35

     
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    over in the Navy game as well as Army..

     

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    over in the Navy game as well as Army..

     

     
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    Army is in a horrible spot.

    ECU strength of schedule weak.

    Army strength of schedule even worse.

    ECU with the extra week to prepare.

    ECU outright an_light

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    Army is in a horrible spot.

    ECU strength of schedule weak.

    Army strength of schedule even worse.

    ECU with the extra week to prepare.

    ECU outright an_light

     
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    Who TF said ECU was the '85 Bears?

     

    It ain't even close, esp. rushing wise- UAB - Rice - Temple - Tulsa - Lehigh ? ...... Army has faced the easiest SOS of opposing D's in the nation.

      *  ECU D #66 SP+ - FAU #85 / Rice #99

      >> lost 2 best players on D, and beat up > gave up big numbers last few  

     Pirate D ranks close to the top in :  stuff rate - line yards - yards before contact /  not bad yards after contact - success rate

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    Who TF said ECU was the '85 Bears?

     

    It ain't even close, esp. rushing wise- UAB - Rice - Temple - Tulsa - Lehigh ? ...... Army has faced the easiest SOS of opposing D's in the nation.

      *  ECU D #66 SP+ - FAU #85 / Rice #99

      >> lost 2 best players on D, and beat up > gave up big numbers last few  

     Pirate D ranks close to the top in :  stuff rate - line yards - yards before contact /  not bad yards after contact - success rate

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by bookieassassin:

    @Wizerguy   Who TF said ECU was the '85 Bears?   It ain't even close, esp. rushing wise- UAB - Rice - Temple - Tulsa - Lehigh ? ...... Army has faced the easiest SOS of opposing D's in the nation.   *  ECU D #66 SP+ - FAU #85 / Rice #99   >> lost 2 best players on D, and beat up > gave up big numbers last few    Pirate D ranks close to the top in :  stuff rate - line yards - yards before contact /  not bad yards after contact - success rate

     

    ECU hasnt exactly faced an above average offense to accumulate those #s

    App state, old dominion, utsa are bottom feeders offensively.

     

    easy to accumulate half way decent stats against them

     

     

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    @Wizerguy   Who TF said ECU was the '85 Bears?   It ain't even close, esp. rushing wise- UAB - Rice - Temple - Tulsa - Lehigh ? ...... Army has faced the easiest SOS of opposing D's in the nation.   *  ECU D #66 SP+ - FAU #85 / Rice #99   >> lost 2 best players on D, and beat up > gave up big numbers last few    Pirate D ranks close to the top in :  stuff rate - line yards - yards before contact /  not bad yards after contact - success rate

     

    ECU hasnt exactly faced an above average offense to accumulate those #s

    App state, old dominion, utsa are bottom feeders offensively.

     

    easy to accumulate half way decent stats against them

     

     

     
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    Its 2 teams with not great opponents . Think ECU has to change its defense to stop Army's option attack All new defensive assignments and schemes. Army runs the same option and we'll see how ECU defense tries to stop the option  Monken makes his option changes and again with a QB who can chew up yards and really hasn't been tested with his arm will cause ECU defense big time problems  Think after seeing Army and watching them on tape ECU will and must stop Bryson option From stopping his rushing and hand offs < Bryson see's what the defense is giving him Think that Bryson will fake his hand offs and keeps he ball . He is probably one of the best rushing qb's because he is built like a full back and when he gets to the line of scrimmage does he tuck it under and keep the ball or dish to one of his rb's  Both backs are talented and can turn up field  And if Robinson who is back after sitting out last season is really the fastest then all there other rb's. All week ECU defensive players are practicing on " how to stop the Black nites . The Off line of Army is a strength and they know their assignments .  ECU defense playing Appa St,ODU and UTSA offenses haven't been really tested. Army in the past has handled the Michigans and Notre Dames  with 5 star Def tackles and ends. Army is not pass blocking unless they get behind because there off lineman push out and block . The Army OL is like a machine and everyone knows their assignments. . Navy does the same. But Bryson has an accurate arm and when you have someone that is accurate and can pass the ball something has to give  My buddy who has season tickets to Army says " he could be the best QB Army has ever had.  After seeing him last week vs UAB my buddy could be right But the season is young and me seeing him once .. I need to see him a few times . It is easy for Army to accumulate big yards vs's the ODU's and Appa States but in the past they do the same thing vs the Oklahoma's Notre Dame s and Michigans   Army might look ahead because on Nov 9th they play in Denton Texas  and my North Texas ..lol ....we really haven't seen Bryson's arm yet  and think ECU will put more defenders in the box and make Bryson throw. But Bryson has 13-14 rushing Td's He has over 750 yds rushing  think 7th in the country in scoring. Army is always criticized because of the schedule but when they play the " big boys" they can stay with them Except LSU where they were beaten 62-0 last yr. Navy is 6-0 and it would be great if both play each other and the winner gets an invite to the playoffs . think Monken might realize his QB is Heisman material and lets him roll up some extra yds instead of him subbing . Good luck everyone   Think I'm drinking to much Orange Kool aide backing Texas and living near the Hudson River my whole life cheering for my Black Nites  No I never drank Hudson River water .. good luck everyone this week 

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    Its 2 teams with not great opponents . Think ECU has to change its defense to stop Army's option attack All new defensive assignments and schemes. Army runs the same option and we'll see how ECU defense tries to stop the option  Monken makes his option changes and again with a QB who can chew up yards and really hasn't been tested with his arm will cause ECU defense big time problems  Think after seeing Army and watching them on tape ECU will and must stop Bryson option From stopping his rushing and hand offs < Bryson see's what the defense is giving him Think that Bryson will fake his hand offs and keeps he ball . He is probably one of the best rushing qb's because he is built like a full back and when he gets to the line of scrimmage does he tuck it under and keep the ball or dish to one of his rb's  Both backs are talented and can turn up field  And if Robinson who is back after sitting out last season is really the fastest then all there other rb's. All week ECU defensive players are practicing on " how to stop the Black nites . The Off line of Army is a strength and they know their assignments .  ECU defense playing Appa St,ODU and UTSA offenses haven't been really tested. Army in the past has handled the Michigans and Notre Dames  with 5 star Def tackles and ends. Army is not pass blocking unless they get behind because there off lineman push out and block . The Army OL is like a machine and everyone knows their assignments. . Navy does the same. But Bryson has an accurate arm and when you have someone that is accurate and can pass the ball something has to give  My buddy who has season tickets to Army says " he could be the best QB Army has ever had.  After seeing him last week vs UAB my buddy could be right But the season is young and me seeing him once .. I need to see him a few times . It is easy for Army to accumulate big yards vs's the ODU's and Appa States but in the past they do the same thing vs the Oklahoma's Notre Dame s and Michigans   Army might look ahead because on Nov 9th they play in Denton Texas  and my North Texas ..lol ....we really haven't seen Bryson's arm yet  and think ECU will put more defenders in the box and make Bryson throw. But Bryson has 13-14 rushing Td's He has over 750 yds rushing  think 7th in the country in scoring. Army is always criticized because of the schedule but when they play the " big boys" they can stay with them Except LSU where they were beaten 62-0 last yr. Navy is 6-0 and it would be great if both play each other and the winner gets an invite to the playoffs . think Monken might realize his QB is Heisman material and lets him roll up some extra yds instead of him subbing . Good luck everyone   Think I'm drinking to much Orange Kool aide backing Texas and living near the Hudson River my whole life cheering for my Black Nites  No I never drank Hudson River water .. good luck everyone this week 

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    East Carolina is a turnover machine. They've had at least one in every game and a total of 17 for the season. Army conversely has turned the ball over ONE TIME all season! Even if the Pirates' D is the best Army has faced, they're gonna have to play a clean game to have any chance at all, and I haven't seen any evidence they're capable of doing that. 

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    East Carolina is a turnover machine. They've had at least one in every game and a total of 17 for the season. Army conversely has turned the ball over ONE TIME all season! Even if the Pirates' D is the best Army has faced, they're gonna have to play a clean game to have any chance at all, and I haven't seen any evidence they're capable of doing that. 

     
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    @Box and one

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    East Carolina gave up 300 years rushing to Charlotte and that’s with there qb having -19, yards, army runs all over them. Ridiculous for people to say this is the best defense they have seen.
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    East Carolina gave up 300 years rushing to Charlotte and that’s with there qb having -19, yards, army runs all over them. Ridiculous for people to say this is the best defense they have seen.
     
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    Bryson stats 

     7-10 passing 147 yds ! Td

     Rushing 31-171 yds 5 td's 

     He broke a few Armys Touchdown records  5 tds today 

     He also lowered his shoulder when running and knocked some linebackers and db's about 4 yds back like a full back .  He could be a possible candidate for the Heisman . Army is undefeated and next week has Air force at home  then 2 away games vs North Texas and Notre Dame.. If he continues scoring td's he is in the race for a Heisman . He does rush like a fullback and lowers his body on contact . And although today if anyone saw him play he could break a lot of scoring records at Army. The Corp call him " Superman"   I am a believer after today watching him. The knock on him is the teams he is going against .. But if does what he is doing to Notre Dame he might be invited to the Heisman dinner. Imagine  a cadet winning this award .. Go Bryson .. 

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     7-10 passing 147 yds ! Td

     Rushing 31-171 yds 5 td's 

     He broke a few Armys Touchdown records  5 tds today 

     He also lowered his shoulder when running and knocked some linebackers and db's about 4 yds back like a full back .  He could be a possible candidate for the Heisman . Army is undefeated and next week has Air force at home  then 2 away games vs North Texas and Notre Dame.. If he continues scoring td's he is in the race for a Heisman . He does rush like a fullback and lowers his body on contact . And although today if anyone saw him play he could break a lot of scoring records at Army. The Corp call him " Superman"   I am a believer after today watching him. The knock on him is the teams he is going against .. But if does what he is doing to Notre Dame he might be invited to the Heisman dinner. Imagine  a cadet winning this award .. Go Bryson .. 

     
     
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    What followed were scoring runs of 17 and 31 yards in the second quarter; 1 and 3 yards in the third; and, a 4-yard score with under five minutes to play, providing late relief in a 45-28 victory over the Pirates.

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    What followed were scoring runs of 17 and 31 yards in the second quarter; 1 and 3 yards in the third; and, a 4-yard score with under five minutes to play, providing late relief in a 45-28 victory over the Pirates.

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