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    Biggest playoff debate we could see this year

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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2018 - 11:24 PM ET #1

    Current rankings from the committee:

    1. Alabama (9-0)
    2. Clemson (9-0)
    3. Notre Dame (9-0)
    4. Michigan (8-1)

    5. Georgia (8-1)
    6. Oklahoma (8-1)

    If the top 4 teams win the rest of their regular season games and Bama loses to Georgia in the SEC Championship while Michigan and Clemson win their conference championship games, what will be the committee's final rankings?

    1. Clemson (13-0)
    2. Notre Dame (12-0)
    3. Georgia (12-1)
    4. Michigan (12-1) or Alabama (12-1)???

    Michigan being left out as 12-1 Big Ten champs would be hard to imagine considering their only loss was to #2 ND by 7 points on the road at the beginning of the season.  Michigan would have an impressive resume. 

    Alabama is universally regarded as the best team in the country and if they lose to Georgia they would have the same record as Michigan but they would not have won their conference.  Their loss to Georgia would be to a top 5 team in Atlanta.

    Who would the committee put in the 4th spot?  Is there a chance that the Big 12, Pac 12, and Big Ten all get left out???  I'm curious to know what people on this board think would happen.


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    Current rankings from the committee:

    1. Alabama (9-0)
    2. Clemson (9-0)
    3. Notre Dame (9-0)
    4. Michigan (8-1)

    5. Georgia (8-1)
    6. Oklahoma (8-1)

    If the top 4 teams win the rest of their regular season games and Bama loses to Georgia in the SEC Championship while Michigan and Clemson win their conference championship games, what will be the committee's final rankings?

    1. Clemson (13-0)
    2. Notre Dame (12-0)
    3. Georgia (12-1)
    4. Michigan (12-1) or Alabama (12-1)???

    Michigan being left out as 12-1 Big Ten champs would be hard to imagine considering their only loss was to #2 ND by 7 points on the road at the beginning of the season.  Michigan would have an impressive resume. 

    Alabama is universally regarded as the best team in the country and if they lose to Georgia they would have the same record as Michigan but they would not have won their conference.  Their loss to Georgia would be to a top 5 team in Atlanta.

    Who would the committee put in the 4th spot?  Is there a chance that the Big 12, Pac 12, and Big Ten all get left out???  I'm curious to know what people on this board think would happen.


     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2018 - 11:27 PM ET #2

    Bama can lose & is 100% getting in so we can avoid that debate quite easily 
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2018 - 11:30 PM ET #3

    the great debate will be if Irish lose & Mich win out

    Both 1 loss but Dane won head to head

    I’d think they put Dame in based on head to head 

    If Clem loses this weekend then everything changes 

    Bama can lose to uga & they are in, especially since LSU is ranked 7, it’s clear comm thinks Bama is far superior to everyone, when you lose at home by 4 tds & get shoutout & are still at 7, all you need to know
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    the great debate will be if Irish lose & Mich win out

    Both 1 loss but Dane won head to head

    I’d think they put Dame in based on head to head 

    If Clem loses this weekend then everything changes 

    Bama can lose to uga & they are in, especially since LSU is ranked 7, it’s clear comm thinks Bama is far superior to everyone, when you lose at home by 4 tds & get shoutout & are still at 7, all you need to know
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2018 - 11:33 PM ET #4

    If uga beat Bama then you get 2 sec teams in, I think that’s a guarantee (unless Aub beat them this weekend)

    It will be fun to see it all play out


    Ideally we get the current top 4, all big names & would keep entire country interested 
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    If uga beat Bama then you get 2 sec teams in, I think that’s a guarantee (unless Aub beat them this weekend)

    It will be fun to see it all play out


    Ideally we get the current top 4, all big names & would keep entire country interested 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2018 - 11:43 PM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by WahooS:

    the great debate will be if Irish lose & Mich win out

    Both 1 loss but Dane won head to head

    I’d think they put Dame in based on head to head 



    I don't know about that.  I think if ND loses down the stretch and Michigan wins out, Michigan will be in the playoffs at #3 and the final spot would go to ND or Oklahoma if the Sooners win out.  I could see Oklahoma getting the nod because 12-1 is greater than 11-1.

    I'm still not sure if Alabama is an automatic choice if they lose to Georgia. 
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    the great debate will be if Irish lose & Mich win out

    Both 1 loss but Dane won head to head

    I’d think they put Dame in based on head to head 



    I don't know about that.  I think if ND loses down the stretch and Michigan wins out, Michigan will be in the playoffs at #3 and the final spot would go to ND or Oklahoma if the Sooners win out.  I could see Oklahoma getting the nod because 12-1 is greater than 11-1.

    I'm still not sure if Alabama is an automatic choice if they lose to Georgia. 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2018 - 11:46 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by On_Edge:



    I don't know about that.  I think if ND loses down the stretch and Michigan wins out, Michigan will be in the playoffs at #3 and the final spot would go to ND or Oklahoma if the Sooners win out.  I could see Oklahoma getting the nod because 12-1 is greater than 11-1.

    I'm still not sure if Alabama is an automatic choice if they lose to Georgia. 
    I’m not sure about the others but I’m 100% on Bama 

    If they only lose to UGA they are in 


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    I don't know about that.  I think if ND loses down the stretch and Michigan wins out, Michigan will be in the playoffs at #3 and the final spot would go to ND or Oklahoma if the Sooners win out.  I could see Oklahoma getting the nod because 12-1 is greater than 11-1.

    I'm still not sure if Alabama is an automatic choice if they lose to Georgia. 
    I’m not sure about the others but I’m 100% on Bama 

    If they only lose to UGA they are in 


     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2018 - 11:51 PM ET #7

    the ranking they gave LSU tells the story & the comm has made it clear that they are choosing the 4 best teams 

    nobody on earth thinks there are 4 teams better than Bama & a loss to a top 5 team with a 29 point win in Death Valley 

    I think it’s a guarantee , I’d be stunned if they didn’t make it, it would be a travesty honestly & I don’t cheer for Bama , simply no way there are 4 teams better 

    fun to chat about though, would be cool if we saw live debate from the committee , we should get that in the future I’d think 
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    the ranking they gave LSU tells the story & the comm has made it clear that they are choosing the 4 best teams 

    nobody on earth thinks there are 4 teams better than Bama & a loss to a top 5 team with a 29 point win in Death Valley 

    I think it’s a guarantee , I’d be stunned if they didn’t make it, it would be a travesty honestly & I don’t cheer for Bama , simply no way there are 4 teams better 

    fun to chat about though, would be cool if we saw live debate from the committee , we should get that in the future I’d think 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2018 - 12:18 AM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by WahooS:

    Bama can lose & is 100% getting in so we can avoid that debate quite easily 

    What he said.  Bama in even with a loss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WahooS:

    Bama can lose & is 100% getting in so we can avoid that debate quite easily 

    What he said.  Bama in even with a loss.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2018 - 1:50 AM ET #9

    Bama could lose the rest of their games and people would still think they could beat the Oakland Raiders....

    So yeah, a 1 loss Bama team is getting in.
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    Bama could lose the rest of their games and people would still think they could beat the Oakland Raiders....

    So yeah, a 1 loss Bama team is getting in.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2018 - 4:17 PM ET #10

    I'm still not convinced that if Michigan beats Ohio State on the road and wins the Big Ten championship game that they'd be left out of the playoffs.  I think if they win out, they're in because of the way they've dominated ranked teams this year.  Not to mention, they're a huge national brand with Jim Harbaugh as their coach and they've been building towards a year like this for a long time.  Alabama losing to Georgia is probably not going to happen but if it does, I think the committee will take Michigan over Bama instead of taking 2 SEC teams they way they did last year. 

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    I'm still not convinced that if Michigan beats Ohio State on the road and wins the Big Ten championship game that they'd be left out of the playoffs.  I think if they win out, they're in because of the way they've dominated ranked teams this year.  Not to mention, they're a huge national brand with Jim Harbaugh as their coach and they've been building towards a year like this for a long time.  Alabama losing to Georgia is probably not going to happen but if it does, I think the committee will take Michigan over Bama instead of taking 2 SEC teams they way they did last year. 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2018 - 5:20 PM ET #11

    One loss Dame will not win a conference championship game.

    Let's not forget……

    2014-2015 TCU somehow was bumped out from #3 to #6 in the final CFB Rankings By not playing in a championship game.

    #24 AuburN beating #1 Alabama last year.

    One loss Bama not a conference champion last year. Sitting out and resting, while a banged up Auburn losing to Georgia in the SEC Champ game.

     Any other #24 ranked team beating undefeated # 1 Bama last year last game of the regular season; would Bama still have been in?

    So.…Notre Dame gets the nod by name recognition as Bama does. If not they should be upset.

    We'll see if this playoff committee watched more football than the previous committee. 

    Yes……UCF beat Auburn and are the National Champs. Probably if it was the BCS.

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    One loss Dame will not win a conference championship game.

    Let's not forget……

    2014-2015 TCU somehow was bumped out from #3 to #6 in the final CFB Rankings By not playing in a championship game.

    #24 AuburN beating #1 Alabama last year.

    One loss Bama not a conference champion last year. Sitting out and resting, while a banged up Auburn losing to Georgia in the SEC Champ game.

     Any other #24 ranked team beating undefeated # 1 Bama last year last game of the regular season; would Bama still have been in?

    So.…Notre Dame gets the nod by name recognition as Bama does. If not they should be upset.

    We'll see if this playoff committee watched more football than the previous committee. 

    Yes……UCF beat Auburn and are the National Champs. Probably if it was the BCS.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2018 - 5:25 PM ET #12

    If Clemson loses and they don't play in the ACC Championship game.

     Shouldn't they get in like Bama last year?

    Just sayin…
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    If Clemson loses and they don't play in the ACC Championship game.

     Shouldn't they get in like Bama last year?

    Just sayin…
     
     
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    The precedent was set last year...   You don't even have to win your division and play in a conference championship game to be considered one of the 4 best teams.  

    Win your conference?  Congrats, but don't expect anything from that

    Honestly... take the Big10...  say Ohio State beats Michigan and wins the Championship game (tough scenario to see, but follow along...).  What happens then?  They are not better than Bama or Clemson.  Undefeated ND is probably gonna get benefit of doubt because they won all games and didn't lose by 40 to Purdue.  The perception of Michigan goes back to them being a decent team that lost to ND's #2 QB and should have lost to NW.  Big10 should be kept out at that point.   

    Fly in the ointment?  Syracuse.  They take out ND and then it gets interesting.    
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    The precedent was set last year...   You don't even have to win your division and play in a conference championship game to be considered one of the 4 best teams.  

    Win your conference?  Congrats, but don't expect anything from that

    Honestly... take the Big10...  say Ohio State beats Michigan and wins the Championship game (tough scenario to see, but follow along...).  What happens then?  They are not better than Bama or Clemson.  Undefeated ND is probably gonna get benefit of doubt because they won all games and didn't lose by 40 to Purdue.  The perception of Michigan goes back to them being a decent team that lost to ND's #2 QB and should have lost to NW.  Big10 should be kept out at that point.   

    Fly in the ointment?  Syracuse.  They take out ND and then it gets interesting.    
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