What's the big loss here? Fresh blood in and something to rally behind? Game is about Defense too. If FSU plays better D against an interconference Rival? Keep it close play D and run the ball.
Clemson got crushed by Georgia, Crushed App St who is much less than their norm this season, Beat Nc St who has not covered this season, and last game beat Stanford lol. They have not faced a gauntlet this season and the game they did were trashed by Georgia.
My thought is Clemson is good because their schedule. Take the mask off game this week, Butter faced Clemson! laying too many.
Except for last game the D is not giving up a ton of points so the under is quite possible as well. FSU hasnt been covering because they have not been getting +14 points.
Fsu is now 1-4. They were ranked #10 in the country.
Now the season is over for them, I don't know what kind of motivation they can have, but they don't seem to fight for their coach.
i saw Brock Glenn play 2 times now. Last year vs louisville in ACC championship, and vs Georgia. Both times he was awfull, and could barely throw the ball.
On the opposite, Clemson now has a offensive surge. Klubnik is playing good, and ghe defense is pretty legit. This can be a bloodbath.
@spottie2935
They lost by 15 @ home to BC and 26 this past week to SMU. Getting 14 points would still have resulted in 2 ATS losses. I learned a long time ago, don't back bad teams, always a better game, better team out there to play instead.
The only way I would be looking to play this game is Clemson 1st half TT under. If anything backup QB might be a good thing. Maybe hes improved and mixing things up helps. How can you even remotely gauge FSUs motivation though? Have they given up or do they still want to beat a rival? Maybe their defense plays stronger vs a rival at least for 1 half until the game gets out of control and Clemson piles it on.
@JoseAlonso787
With all due respect they are not a bad football team. They are a bad offensive football team laying way too many points.
the bad football team with one bad game last week in which the defense gave up an unreasonable amount of points. Now I have not had time to investigate what transpired in that game. Bet that is out of the mean to lose that bad.
Could they have been looking ahead? Possibly
are they just done and defeated ?
possibly
Do I trust Clemson to destroy them ? Nope but FSU could destroy themselves yes. That’s possible.
This is the first game the line is in a spot that FSU has a reasonable chance to cover. The D has to bounce back. The new Wb I know nothing about but how can it be worse that the amount of points FSU is scoring.
Clemson played less than great teams all at home and now on the road against a D that could possibly frustrate thier offense and FSU line is reasonable.
Clemson at HOME to App St that line was -17
I really don’t think FSU loses as badly as they did last week at home in a rival conference game.
This is not my best game this week. The line has me intrigued. 
@spottie2935
With all due respect, I’ve been watching FSU football since I was 8. That’s 29 years for me. They are best on defense. Doesn’t mean they have a good defense. They haven’t played an offense with the caliber of Clemson’s (at this point). Clemson is still Clemson, UGA made them look bad in the 2H of that game and quite a bit of people overreacted. What have we seen from them since then? Quite a bit of improvement, in contrast to their competition. FSU’s offense is anemic and will get beat in the trenches on both sides of the ball. FSU MAY hold Clemson to 34, and that’s if they play well on both sides of the ball. Will FSU score 20? I don’t see it. Even then the 34 is being kind.
@mrusso
I listen to you a lot and nothing but respect
After such a great season last year and the way they are not performing offensively. Certainly appears difficult to back FSU.
The BC game was after a game in Dublin and the second game in week one. There are a lot of teams that might play real bad in that game.
my concern for FSU early in the season was the lines. They had no chance in those games.
the books know FSU is getting a lot of eyes now that they have been failing so miserably so they have increased the lines significantly. We will see if the line and the FSU defense makes a difference.
Key favors for me is the terrible disaster of the margin they lost by last week
Clemson on the road in a rivalry game and the soft lines Clemson has had this season. Lines and situations do matter. We will see I guess.
Like I said it’s intriguing enough to start a conversation but certainly not one of my best plays.
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