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    Credit to the "Committee"?

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    Posted: Jan. 2, 2015 - 1:53 AM ET #1

     Despite their undefeated run, they had the balls to drop FSU in their rankings based on the eye test..........., they saw what most of us saw.
     Had the nuts, & I'm still skeptical as hell after watching TCU win, to move an OSU into the playoff at the last minute.

     
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     Despite their undefeated run, they had the balls to drop FSU in their rankings based on the eye test..........., they saw what most of us saw.
     Had the nuts, & I'm still skeptical as hell after watching TCU win, to move an OSU into the playoff at the last minute.

     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 2, 2015 - 1:59 AM ET #2

    I'd love to see a TCU/OSU match-up.
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    Posted: Jan. 2, 2015 - 2:04 AM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by cherokee10:

    I'd love to see a TCU/OSU match-up.
    I bet against OSU today.......got what I deserved........GL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cherokee10:

    I'd love to see a TCU/OSU match-up.
    I bet against OSU today.......got what I deserved........GL.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 2, 2015 - 2:47 AM ET #5

    Committee probably didn't see sh!t.  Do these people watch an college football?
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    Posted: Jan. 2, 2015 - 3:18 AM ET #6

    What r u skeptical about OSU getting in over TCU, just dismantled the "number 1" team in every aspect other than punting.
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    What r u skeptical about OSU getting in over TCU, just dismantled the "number 1" team in every aspect other than punting.
     
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    You can feel free to draw all the conclusions you want from bowl games and use them to make broad statements, but it's better to judge over the course of a whole season. In most of these bowl games, either one or both of the teams are something totally different from what we saw in season. One team hears how they are so great and going to blow the other team out, the other team hears how they have no chance. Except unlike the regular season they hear that and see that for a month instead of a day or two so it becomes a bigger factor. If you take any one game at any point and make broad judgements you will be inaccurate, is the big ten better then the SEC? no, not even close. But the big ten will benefit from that because they can play a softish non conference schedule, have there usual crap big ten schedule, trip up once along the way and still get in.

    When these debates are had nobody should be suggesting that one team cant beat the other, of course they can, and all the teams that were in the debate for the playoff are more then capable of beating each other, it's just if you get alabamas best game, and ohio st's best game, bama wins, but in bowl games the favorite dosen't play there best very often in fact they often lay eggs.

    Auburn lost to wisconsin what does that mean? that was probably auburn's 5th most important game of the season, and there coming off a game where there playoff hopes were ended in by far the biggest game they play, so they come in, they stink and they lose. Rinse repeat.
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    You can feel free to draw all the conclusions you want from bowl games and use them to make broad statements, but it's better to judge over the course of a whole season. In most of these bowl games, either one or both of the teams are something totally different from what we saw in season. One team hears how they are so great and going to blow the other team out, the other team hears how they have no chance. Except unlike the regular season they hear that and see that for a month instead of a day or two so it becomes a bigger factor. If you take any one game at any point and make broad judgements you will be inaccurate, is the big ten better then the SEC? no, not even close. But the big ten will benefit from that because they can play a softish non conference schedule, have there usual crap big ten schedule, trip up once along the way and still get in.

    When these debates are had nobody should be suggesting that one team cant beat the other, of course they can, and all the teams that were in the debate for the playoff are more then capable of beating each other, it's just if you get alabamas best game, and ohio st's best game, bama wins, but in bowl games the favorite dosen't play there best very often in fact they often lay eggs.

    Auburn lost to wisconsin what does that mean? that was probably auburn's 5th most important game of the season, and there coming off a game where there playoff hopes were ended in by far the biggest game they play, so they come in, they stink and they lose. Rinse repeat.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 2, 2015 - 3:54 AM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by VoshonLenard:

    . But the big ten will benefit from that because they can play a softish non conference schedule, have there usual crap big ten schedule, trip up once along the way and still get in.


    You're smoking crack right? The strongest OOC schedules are okay in the SEC when you look and see 2 SEC relatively high but when you really look at the schedules there's big holes. I.E. The B1G is moving to a non-fcs scheduling rule. The B1G even with rutgers at 35 and Maryland at 20 fcs schools on their record, still have scheduled approximately 50 less fcs schools then the SEC.

    The SEC in general schedules very weakly picking up non-perennial teams the are okay a couple years then fall off, people remember those teams were good and are like yeah that's an okay team to schedule when a team like WVU has pretty much done nothing as a school over the years. They schedule pretty much no home and home series and tend to schedule 'neutral site' closer to them then the opponents. And then when you talk about SOS you're generally just talking about a made up stat anyways as it takes into consideration how people rank those teams as 'strongest'. 

    Auburn lost to Wisconsin, Baylor lost to Michigan State, tOSU won against Bama. The B1G is the only conference with 3 11 win teams and it's stupid to ignore that. It might be a fluke for a team or 2 to win, however it isn't a fluke when every 'good' team loses.

    Saying a bowl game is below even the 2nd most important game in a season is complete crap. You're talking about pride for a conference, pride for your team, being able to find out if youre better then another conference, and half these teams aren't perennial winners (i.e. ole miss, mississippi state, duke, georgia tech), etc. It might be a valid point for Alabam last year, but it certainly isn't a valid point for an entire conference this year or any year.

    You can say Alabama beats tOSU on their best day, however tOSU was on their 3rd string qb, Bama won more games by 14 or less then FSU did, tOSU came into the bowl out-ranked in almost every stat. As someone who's retired and able to watch every game it was extremely obvious Alabama wasn't nearly as good as people said they were along with Mississippi State and Ole Miss.

    Certain teams were completely untaggable as well, i.e. will we ever know how truly good MSU was? They barely won but they also lost to the currently 2 best teams in the nation in Oregon and tOSU, and today beat the 5th best.

    On a complete other note do we even know if the SEC even was the best team over the years? almost every year good teams were left out, and in the time of the BCS era at least 6 undefeated teams and 12 1 loss teams were left out of the championship. Is it then fair to say the SEC was the best when there's 1 loss teams left, or when a championship is a 2 team SEC team?
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    . But the big ten will benefit from that because they can play a softish non conference schedule, have there usual crap big ten schedule, trip up once along the way and still get in.


    You're smoking crack right? The strongest OOC schedules are okay in the SEC when you look and see 2 SEC relatively high but when you really look at the schedules there's big holes. I.E. The B1G is moving to a non-fcs scheduling rule. The B1G even with rutgers at 35 and Maryland at 20 fcs schools on their record, still have scheduled approximately 50 less fcs schools then the SEC.

    The SEC in general schedules very weakly picking up non-perennial teams the are okay a couple years then fall off, people remember those teams were good and are like yeah that's an okay team to schedule when a team like WVU has pretty much done nothing as a school over the years. They schedule pretty much no home and home series and tend to schedule 'neutral site' closer to them then the opponents. And then when you talk about SOS you're generally just talking about a made up stat anyways as it takes into consideration how people rank those teams as 'strongest'. 

    Auburn lost to Wisconsin, Baylor lost to Michigan State, tOSU won against Bama. The B1G is the only conference with 3 11 win teams and it's stupid to ignore that. It might be a fluke for a team or 2 to win, however it isn't a fluke when every 'good' team loses.

    Saying a bowl game is below even the 2nd most important game in a season is complete crap. You're talking about pride for a conference, pride for your team, being able to find out if youre better then another conference, and half these teams aren't perennial winners (i.e. ole miss, mississippi state, duke, georgia tech), etc. It might be a valid point for Alabam last year, but it certainly isn't a valid point for an entire conference this year or any year.

    You can say Alabama beats tOSU on their best day, however tOSU was on their 3rd string qb, Bama won more games by 14 or less then FSU did, tOSU came into the bowl out-ranked in almost every stat. As someone who's retired and able to watch every game it was extremely obvious Alabama wasn't nearly as good as people said they were along with Mississippi State and Ole Miss.

    Certain teams were completely untaggable as well, i.e. will we ever know how truly good MSU was? They barely won but they also lost to the currently 2 best teams in the nation in Oregon and tOSU, and today beat the 5th best.

    On a complete other note do we even know if the SEC even was the best team over the years? almost every year good teams were left out, and in the time of the BCS era at least 6 undefeated teams and 12 1 loss teams were left out of the championship. Is it then fair to say the SEC was the best when there's 1 loss teams left, or when a championship is a 2 team SEC team?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 2, 2015 - 3:56 AM ET #9

    tOSU came into the bowl out-ranking Alabama in almost every stat*
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    Posted: Jan. 2, 2015 - 4:41 AM ET #10

    Who the f uck is tOSU? Please not THE just like the U of Miami. Another f''ing n school
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    Who the f uck is tOSU? Please not THE just like the U of Miami. Another f''ing n school
     
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    Its one game..... FSU was in that game..... you commit two fumbles like that its over.... to any good team let alone a top 4 team. 

    FSU could have won that game. You guys really think Ole Miss plays TCU again they'll get blown out 42-3? lol really? ok. That's the crazy part about football, especially college. 

    Hell, even NFL.... Atlanta played green bay to the wire at green bay but gets lit up by Carolina in Atlanta..... whatever. no rhyme or reason sometime but just mindset and motivation. 

    i would make the college football playoff to at least 6 teams though. would make it more interesting and marketable.... maybe even extend it the week before the superbowl..... and get rid of the corny azz pro bowl. This way legit teams like TCU, Baylor, MSU, or Georgia won't get rejected over petty rules and "committee" decisions. 
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    Its one game..... FSU was in that game..... you commit two fumbles like that its over.... to any good team let alone a top 4 team. 

    FSU could have won that game. You guys really think Ole Miss plays TCU again they'll get blown out 42-3? lol really? ok. That's the crazy part about football, especially college. 

    Hell, even NFL.... Atlanta played green bay to the wire at green bay but gets lit up by Carolina in Atlanta..... whatever. no rhyme or reason sometime but just mindset and motivation. 

    i would make the college football playoff to at least 6 teams though. would make it more interesting and marketable.... maybe even extend it the week before the superbowl..... and get rid of the corny azz pro bowl. This way legit teams like TCU, Baylor, MSU, or Georgia won't get rejected over petty rules and "committee" decisions. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 2, 2015 - 8:25 AM ET #12

    No, the committee shouldn't get credit for hindsight.
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    Posted: Jan. 2, 2015 - 8:41 AM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by bunny651:

    No, the committee shouldn't get credit for hindsight.

    That makes no sense whatsoever.  
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    No, the committee shouldn't get credit for hindsight.

    That makes no sense whatsoever.  
     
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    THAT GAME WAS FIXED !!!!!!!!!
      *it's SO obvious......rigged from the start !!!!!

    I GOT THE CALL YESTERDAY !!!!!........ 

    THE COMMITTEE AND THAT NAZI NCAA......PAID OFF THE REFS SO OHIO ST COULD GET IN !!!!!! ...............................
      *I tried to warn you peoples....but you were 2 stewpid!!!!!!

    It is better to be feared - than to be loved.
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    THAT GAME WAS FIXED !!!!!!!!!
      *it's SO obvious......rigged from the start !!!!!

    I GOT THE CALL YESTERDAY !!!!!........ 

    THE COMMITTEE AND THAT NAZI NCAA......PAID OFF THE REFS SO OHIO ST COULD GET IN !!!!!! ...............................
      *I tried to warn you peoples....but you were 2 stewpid!!!!!!

     
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    Posted: Jan. 2, 2015 - 8:47 AM ET #15

    kinda like the Huskies today Mugg....
      *you on 'em too?................
    It is better to be feared - than to be loved.
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    kinda like the Huskies today Mugg....
      *you on 'em too?................
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by QMICH:

    THE FACT THAT AUBURN, OMISS, MISS ST & BAMA WERE ALL RANKED #1 AT SOME POINT THIS SEASON IS JUST A TOTAL FUKIN JOKE.  ALL TOP RATED SEC SCHOOLS LOST THEIR BOWL GAMES AGAIN THIS YEAR.  PLAYING EASTERN, WESTERN, ATLANTIC & PRESBYTERIAN CUPCAKES SHOULD KNOCK YOU DOWN THE PLAYOFF LADDER FROM NOW ON.  JUST AIN'T GONNA CUT IT NOW THAT TROPHIES ARE NO LONGER JUST GIFTED TO YOU
    Won't get an argument from me.......
     The playoff is doing what we all hoped........give us champion based on play, not opinion.
     Yes, I was skeptical when OSU got put in above TCU.......& even more so after TCU beat the shiit out of Mississippi. Even now part of me wonders if TCU couldn't have done the same thing OS did.............but maybe that will be the 1st salvo lobbed for the expansion to eight.
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    THE FACT THAT AUBURN, OMISS, MISS ST & BAMA WERE ALL RANKED #1 AT SOME POINT THIS SEASON IS JUST A TOTAL FUKIN JOKE.  ALL TOP RATED SEC SCHOOLS LOST THEIR BOWL GAMES AGAIN THIS YEAR.  PLAYING EASTERN, WESTERN, ATLANTIC & PRESBYTERIAN CUPCAKES SHOULD KNOCK YOU DOWN THE PLAYOFF LADDER FROM NOW ON.  JUST AIN'T GONNA CUT IT NOW THAT TROPHIES ARE NO LONGER JUST GIFTED TO YOU
    Won't get an argument from me.......
     The playoff is doing what we all hoped........give us champion based on play, not opinion.
     Yes, I was skeptical when OSU got put in above TCU.......& even more so after TCU beat the shiit out of Mississippi. Even now part of me wonders if TCU couldn't have done the same thing OS did.............but maybe that will be the 1st salvo lobbed for the expansion to eight.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by bookieassassin:

    kinda like the Huskies today Mugg....
      *you on 'em too?................
    Yes.......their D has been playing great the last part of the season.
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    kinda like the Huskies today Mugg....
      *you on 'em too?................
    Yes.......their D has been playing great the last part of the season.
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thorpe:


    That makes no sense whatsoever.  

     

    I guess I didn't state it very clear. I was talking about TCU.

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    That makes no sense whatsoever.  

     

    I guess I didn't state it very clear. I was talking about TCU.

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