Florida -36 vs. UMass...UMass will have a hard time scoring in this one, Florida puts up 50 for the home folks to get everybody pumped for the season. Max play here.
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Florida -36 vs. UMass...UMass will have a hard time scoring in this one, Florida puts up 50 for the home folks to get everybody pumped for the season. Max play here.
Florida -36 Umass's spring game score ended 6-3 on a traditional scoring system. They should not score period
Penn State -19 New offense will surprise a lot of people not to mention shutting out Kent in two previous meetings with Sackenburg. 48-10
Lou - 38 Charlotte spring game ended 14-7 with traditional scoring system, new quarterback with new teammates and system again, should have a very had time scoring against a top 20 defense in the country. Lamar Jackson didn't have a playbook in HS thus last year was his first year learning to read one and run a traditional offense. If Char's secondary is as bad as last year's, like Lou's 2nd string defense in the spring game, he will throw for 500+ and run for another 50. 55-7 Lou.
I'd like to add that I absolutely hate the thought of any spread over 35 points BUT when you combine a struggling offense against an OVERLY dominant defense and an offense looking to put on a show in the first home game, it makes me breath a little better pulling the trigger. All three locked.
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Absolutely.
Florida -36 Umass's spring game score ended 6-3 on a traditional scoring system. They should not score period
Penn State -19 New offense will surprise a lot of people not to mention shutting out Kent in two previous meetings with Sackenburg. 48-10
Lou - 38 Charlotte spring game ended 14-7 with traditional scoring system, new quarterback with new teammates and system again, should have a very had time scoring against a top 20 defense in the country. Lamar Jackson didn't have a playbook in HS thus last year was his first year learning to read one and run a traditional offense. If Char's secondary is as bad as last year's, like Lou's 2nd string defense in the spring game, he will throw for 500+ and run for another 50. 55-7 Lou.
I'd like to add that I absolutely hate the thought of any spread over 35 points BUT when you combine a struggling offense against an OVERLY dominant defense and an offense looking to put on a show in the first home game, it makes me breath a little better pulling the trigger. All three locked.
absolutely, really...sure UMASS sucks, but you are going to give a D1 team almost 40 points in game 1 with a barely 3 star NFL coaches son, who looked pretty good in the spring game, as QB and is expected to average 23 points per game for the entire season...Sure, prima facie, it appears Fla could win by 50+, and probably will, but I have some reservations with regard to a team that gave up 41 points to a Michigan team as a single digit dog in the bowl game, and could only put up 10 points...GL - no play for me, since UMASS is unbackable...still, this cover is far from a certainty, in my opinion...
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absolutely, really...sure UMASS sucks, but you are going to give a D1 team almost 40 points in game 1 with a barely 3 star NFL coaches son, who looked pretty good in the spring game, as QB and is expected to average 23 points per game for the entire season...Sure, prima facie, it appears Fla could win by 50+, and probably will, but I have some reservations with regard to a team that gave up 41 points to a Michigan team as a single digit dog in the bowl game, and could only put up 10 points...GL - no play for me, since UMASS is unbackable...still, this cover is far from a certainty, in my opinion...
However with treon harris & jeff driskel they beat EMU & NMSU (both bottom 120 teams like UMASS) by 50+ points in the past two years and one of those were in the FIRST year of Mcwean's system. 35 points is never a given, but this is easily the biggest talent gap and homefield advantage mismatch in week 1. Maybe other than Hawaii coming off the road from austrailia to an arbor or Charlotte coming to visit Papa John stadium on thursday night.
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fair opinion.
However with treon harris & jeff driskel they beat EMU & NMSU (both bottom 120 teams like UMASS) by 50+ points in the past two years and one of those were in the FIRST year of Mcwean's system. 35 points is never a given, but this is easily the biggest talent gap and homefield advantage mismatch in week 1. Maybe other than Hawaii coming off the road from austrailia to an arbor or Charlotte coming to visit Papa John stadium on thursday night.
Yeah I dont hate those 3 but my favorite 3 are Indiana, Ou, and WKU!
Yes Florida has blowouts in last 2 home openers, but going over home games besides those 2 they have not played well versus non conference over the past 5 years. Florida averaged 7.16 a pass and 3.5 per carry last year. Relying on Luke Del Rio to be sharp in his first start? Antonio Callaway is a big wr threat, otherwise not much proven talent on the Florida offense. The Florida defense up front is loaded. I am sure the total will be very low. Umass has one good Rb Marquis Young 6.3 average and 4 senior Oline man. Hard to imagine them having much success running on the Florida Dline, but they will keep the clock rolling with any first downs they do pickup. Florida offense unlikely to hit that many big plays. It is an opener with penalties and sloppy plays more common than the rest of the season. If Florida is sharp no problem covering the 36, however I would lean slightly with UMASS being able to keep it under the 36.
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Yeah I dont hate those 3 but my favorite 3 are Indiana, Ou, and WKU!
Yes Florida has blowouts in last 2 home openers, but going over home games besides those 2 they have not played well versus non conference over the past 5 years. Florida averaged 7.16 a pass and 3.5 per carry last year. Relying on Luke Del Rio to be sharp in his first start? Antonio Callaway is a big wr threat, otherwise not much proven talent on the Florida offense. The Florida defense up front is loaded. I am sure the total will be very low. Umass has one good Rb Marquis Young 6.3 average and 4 senior Oline man. Hard to imagine them having much success running on the Florida Dline, but they will keep the clock rolling with any first downs they do pickup. Florida offense unlikely to hit that many big plays. It is an opener with penalties and sloppy plays more common than the rest of the season. If Florida is sharp no problem covering the 36, however I would lean slightly with UMASS being able to keep it under the 36.
Yeah I dont hate those 3 but my favorite 3 are Indiana, Ou, and WKU!
Yes Florida has blowouts in last 2 home openers, but going over home games besides those 2 they have not played well versus non conference over the past 5 years. Florida averaged 7.16 a pass and 3.5 per carry last year. Relying on Luke Del Rio to be sharp in his first start? Antonio Callaway is a big wr threat, otherwise not much proven talent on the Florida offense. The Florida defense up front is loaded. I am sure the total will be very low. Umass has one good Rb Marquis Young 6.3 average and 4 senior Oline man. Hard to imagine them having much success running on the Florida Dline, but they will keep the clock rolling with any first downs they do pickup. Florida offense unlikely to hit that many big plays. It is an opener with penalties and sloppy plays more common than the rest of the season. If Florida is sharp no problem covering the 36, however I would lean slightly with UMASS being able to keep it under the 36.
The difference in the openers before that were the fact they played a conference contending Toledo and the year before that a conference championship winning BGSU. SINCE THEN they've played two teams far more close to UMASS's level in NMSU and EMU.
Besides, Grier lit up NMSU in his first game ever as a Gator, hell even treon threw for 200 that game, why cant Del Rio?
And i'll reiterate once more, UMASS lost theyre only real threat on O with they're # 1 receiver and QB leaving. Now they JUST have young at RB who's stats were padded due to the fact that teams knew UMASS wanted to pass all game long.
Again theyre spring game final score was 6-3. SIX to THREE. How many first downs you think theyre going to get exactly in the swamp LOL
In the first year of Mcwean's system this team put up 63 in the opener. Whats in store for UMASS who gave up 475+ a game last year?
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Quote Originally Posted by VEGASJASON:
Yeah I dont hate those 3 but my favorite 3 are Indiana, Ou, and WKU!
Yes Florida has blowouts in last 2 home openers, but going over home games besides those 2 they have not played well versus non conference over the past 5 years. Florida averaged 7.16 a pass and 3.5 per carry last year. Relying on Luke Del Rio to be sharp in his first start? Antonio Callaway is a big wr threat, otherwise not much proven talent on the Florida offense. The Florida defense up front is loaded. I am sure the total will be very low. Umass has one good Rb Marquis Young 6.3 average and 4 senior Oline man. Hard to imagine them having much success running on the Florida Dline, but they will keep the clock rolling with any first downs they do pickup. Florida offense unlikely to hit that many big plays. It is an opener with penalties and sloppy plays more common than the rest of the season. If Florida is sharp no problem covering the 36, however I would lean slightly with UMASS being able to keep it under the 36.
The difference in the openers before that were the fact they played a conference contending Toledo and the year before that a conference championship winning BGSU. SINCE THEN they've played two teams far more close to UMASS's level in NMSU and EMU.
Besides, Grier lit up NMSU in his first game ever as a Gator, hell even treon threw for 200 that game, why cant Del Rio?
And i'll reiterate once more, UMASS lost theyre only real threat on O with they're # 1 receiver and QB leaving. Now they JUST have young at RB who's stats were padded due to the fact that teams knew UMASS wanted to pass all game long.
Again theyre spring game final score was 6-3. SIX to THREE. How many first downs you think theyre going to get exactly in the swamp LOL
In the first year of Mcwean's system this team put up 63 in the opener. Whats in store for UMASS who gave up 475+ a game last year?
Not saying your wrong on all this. I would not fall so in love with 2 years in a row of results though. Your failing to mention the unimpressive wins over ECU and FAU last year at home. Remember also in home games teams play more backups, they are not limited to traveling squad. Look I respect the Florida coach, I know you UMASS does not have the offensive talent it did last year. I think it will be a low possession game, backups come in early if Florida is up huge. Last year coach had more motivation and team more excitement for the opener than they will this year. I think both Florida State and Miami are better Florida favorites for the 1st week (Heck through in USF if you can get a line on that game).
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Not saying your wrong on all this. I would not fall so in love with 2 years in a row of results though. Your failing to mention the unimpressive wins over ECU and FAU last year at home. Remember also in home games teams play more backups, they are not limited to traveling squad. Look I respect the Florida coach, I know you UMASS does not have the offensive talent it did last year. I think it will be a low possession game, backups come in early if Florida is up huge. Last year coach had more motivation and team more excitement for the opener than they will this year. I think both Florida State and Miami are better Florida favorites for the 1st week (Heck through in USF if you can get a line on that game).
Forgot to mention dud effort vs Vandy as well at home. Florida was all over the map last year on offense. Yes UMASS should be a team they have no struggles, but Florida offense does not have cohesion enough to say they put up 50 in their sleep.
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Forgot to mention dud effort vs Vandy as well at home. Florida was all over the map last year on offense. Yes UMASS should be a team they have no struggles, but Florida offense does not have cohesion enough to say they put up 50 in their sleep.
I hear you but you continue to name teams that do not compare to UMASS. Vandy had a top 20 D & ECU had top 40. Fau ranked 65 in scoring D last year. Umass defense has proven terrible time and time again. 98th in the country and lost pieces.
And backups coming in early only mean more excited 4 stars come off the bench looking to prove themselves in the little playing time they're being granted due to this opponent. And this will be one of the easier times they will have to try to piece the offense together so I wouldn't look for or expect a sloppy output on offense when del rio was able to connect on 10-11 in the spring game against a 2nd string Florida defense that could easily out play the top defense in the Mac. This is his second year in Mc's system as he sat out last year so he's familiar with the offense without a doubt.
And to be low In possessions would mean your betting on a team that scored a combined 9 points this spring game to churn out first downs on a top 10 defense. :/
All in all who knows, it's gambling. We shall see. But for the love of God people it's UF of nothing. Umass +36 is a slow death.
Btw, I'd be more weary of Sean macguire missing the entire spring and then betting Florida state in week 1 against an SEC defense then I would be about Del rio's output VS lowly UMASS.
Or even laying 55 points to anyone. Even Florida a&m considering the fact that In the past 6+ years Miami has only scored 55 points ONE time. So I'm not so sure how Miami -55 in week 1 is a comparably intelligent play as oppose to FLA. but again it's gambling, we shall see.
USF I like :)
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I hear you but you continue to name teams that do not compare to UMASS. Vandy had a top 20 D & ECU had top 40. Fau ranked 65 in scoring D last year. Umass defense has proven terrible time and time again. 98th in the country and lost pieces.
And backups coming in early only mean more excited 4 stars come off the bench looking to prove themselves in the little playing time they're being granted due to this opponent. And this will be one of the easier times they will have to try to piece the offense together so I wouldn't look for or expect a sloppy output on offense when del rio was able to connect on 10-11 in the spring game against a 2nd string Florida defense that could easily out play the top defense in the Mac. This is his second year in Mc's system as he sat out last year so he's familiar with the offense without a doubt.
And to be low In possessions would mean your betting on a team that scored a combined 9 points this spring game to churn out first downs on a top 10 defense. :/
All in all who knows, it's gambling. We shall see. But for the love of God people it's UF of nothing. Umass +36 is a slow death.
Btw, I'd be more weary of Sean macguire missing the entire spring and then betting Florida state in week 1 against an SEC defense then I would be about Del rio's output VS lowly UMASS.
Or even laying 55 points to anyone. Even Florida a&m considering the fact that In the past 6+ years Miami has only scored 55 points ONE time. So I'm not so sure how Miami -55 in week 1 is a comparably intelligent play as oppose to FLA. but again it's gambling, we shall see.
thanks for the takes...I am still researching Fla v. UMASS. Look forward to I hear you but you continue to name teams that do not compare to UMASS. Vandy had a top 20 D & ECU had top 40. Fau ranked 65 in scoring D last year. Umass defense has proven terrible time and time again. 98th in the country and lost pieces.
And backups coming in early only mean more excited 4 stars come off the bench looking to prove themselves in the little playing time they're being granted due to this opponent. And this will be one of the easier times they will have to try to piece the offense together so I wouldn't look for or expect a sloppy output on offense when del rio was able to connect on 10-11 in the spring game against a 2nd string Florida defense that could easily out play the top defense in the Mac. This is his second year in Mc's system as he sat out last year so he's familiar with the offense without a doubt.
And to be low In possessions would mean your betting on a team that scored a combined 9 points this spring game to churn out first downs on a top 10 defense. :/
All in all who knows, it's gambling. We shall see. But for the love of God people it's UF of nothing. Umass +36 is a slow death.
Btw, I'd be more weary of Sean macguire missing the entire spring and then betting Florida state in week 1 then I would about Del rio's output VS UMASS. Or even laying 55 points to anyone. Even Florida a&m considering
interfacing with you guys more as the season approaches...
Same here longhorn! Looking forward to your input this season also!
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Quote Originally Posted by LonghornHoosier:
thanks for the takes...I am still researching Fla v. UMASS. Look forward to I hear you but you continue to name teams that do not compare to UMASS. Vandy had a top 20 D & ECU had top 40. Fau ranked 65 in scoring D last year. Umass defense has proven terrible time and time again. 98th in the country and lost pieces.
And backups coming in early only mean more excited 4 stars come off the bench looking to prove themselves in the little playing time they're being granted due to this opponent. And this will be one of the easier times they will have to try to piece the offense together so I wouldn't look for or expect a sloppy output on offense when del rio was able to connect on 10-11 in the spring game against a 2nd string Florida defense that could easily out play the top defense in the Mac. This is his second year in Mc's system as he sat out last year so he's familiar with the offense without a doubt.
And to be low In possessions would mean your betting on a team that scored a combined 9 points this spring game to churn out first downs on a top 10 defense. :/
All in all who knows, it's gambling. We shall see. But for the love of God people it's UF of nothing. Umass +36 is a slow death.
Btw, I'd be more weary of Sean macguire missing the entire spring and then betting Florida state in week 1 then I would about Del rio's output VS UMASS. Or even laying 55 points to anyone. Even Florida a&m considering
interfacing with you guys more as the season approaches...
Same here longhorn! Looking forward to your input this season also!
PSU- 19 (mentioned above as to why) UF -36 (same) C-Mich -28 (Cmich in 6 seasons haven't played anyone as bad as presy, should get ugly early) Cinci-26 (Cindy returns Qb's And enough skill set players, UT-Martin not same team from previous two graduated top qb,wr & rb, rebuilding year) Lou -38 (mentioned In previous post) Tenn -23 (not enough offense for app to keep this thing close for 4quarters. Only reason BGSU scored 30 last year is great qb play and an onslaught of deep sideline passes that app state does not have the playbook or players to try. Lots of runs, lots of stuffs from tenn) Buff -23 (beat Albany by 35+ last year and will be much more efficient at QB in 2nd year of coaches system and veteran big 12 QB transfer coming in to play against lesser comp) Cuse-22 (Colgate won its conference ly while being out scored and out gained yard wise on the season. Which means they won slow close games and lost big time to anyone with talent. Cuse new offense will be expected to put on a show and 7 tds in the spring game from starting QB is a good indication that they'll be ready to go Vs a very slow paced Colgate team that lacks speed. May lol like shit in week 2 V's Lou but Colgate REALLY lacks speed. Again think of the shots BGSU took downfield against Tennessee all game long, same offense. expect to see that all game long V's Colgate.)
Tulsa -5 (too much offense, I'll take them in year 2 of system in a one possession game against a team that loses a lot of offense production from graduation and never had truly potent offense anyways)
UGA-3 (just a feeling, talent gap here on online/dline OSU-27 (new O and HC for BGSU, big step back in QB play in Knapke and still a ton of talent at OSU, Noah brown and Corey smith at receivers are like having returning starters as they've played some sig time and have spoken of highly by coaches and teammates. Look at it like this, for all the talent OSU lost, BGSU lost similar pieces on Offense and Defense. ToP 3 WR's, top RB and best QB in conference all gone and defense isn't expected to be much better than before. Some may be scared but this one could get ugly. Wisconsin won 50+ to 0 against this same squad and they can't throw the ball lol. KU- 29 (this is the only game KU will be favored in, they put up 500 yards and scored 38 points against a top 10 fcs school last year, if it weren't for 3 turnovers they would've won the game in year one of Dave Beatty's system. Fast forward to year two, they play a team that got less than 6 FD's last year V's Syracuse. They REALLY struggle to move the ball against other FCS teams. This is more about how bad Rhode Island is year in and year out more than how good KU is. Definitely the most risky play but that's why it's at the bottom of the list)
Anywho, just my thoughts.
Also kind of like NM V's South Dakota. Something about Tripple option teams V's FCS teams that I love. The depth really shows by the third quarter. Only -12.
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My top plays go as follows
PSU- 19 (mentioned above as to why) UF -36 (same) C-Mich -28 (Cmich in 6 seasons haven't played anyone as bad as presy, should get ugly early) Cinci-26 (Cindy returns Qb's And enough skill set players, UT-Martin not same team from previous two graduated top qb,wr & rb, rebuilding year) Lou -38 (mentioned In previous post) Tenn -23 (not enough offense for app to keep this thing close for 4quarters. Only reason BGSU scored 30 last year is great qb play and an onslaught of deep sideline passes that app state does not have the playbook or players to try. Lots of runs, lots of stuffs from tenn) Buff -23 (beat Albany by 35+ last year and will be much more efficient at QB in 2nd year of coaches system and veteran big 12 QB transfer coming in to play against lesser comp) Cuse-22 (Colgate won its conference ly while being out scored and out gained yard wise on the season. Which means they won slow close games and lost big time to anyone with talent. Cuse new offense will be expected to put on a show and 7 tds in the spring game from starting QB is a good indication that they'll be ready to go Vs a very slow paced Colgate team that lacks speed. May lol like shit in week 2 V's Lou but Colgate REALLY lacks speed. Again think of the shots BGSU took downfield against Tennessee all game long, same offense. expect to see that all game long V's Colgate.)
Tulsa -5 (too much offense, I'll take them in year 2 of system in a one possession game against a team that loses a lot of offense production from graduation and never had truly potent offense anyways)
UGA-3 (just a feeling, talent gap here on online/dline OSU-27 (new O and HC for BGSU, big step back in QB play in Knapke and still a ton of talent at OSU, Noah brown and Corey smith at receivers are like having returning starters as they've played some sig time and have spoken of highly by coaches and teammates. Look at it like this, for all the talent OSU lost, BGSU lost similar pieces on Offense and Defense. ToP 3 WR's, top RB and best QB in conference all gone and defense isn't expected to be much better than before. Some may be scared but this one could get ugly. Wisconsin won 50+ to 0 against this same squad and they can't throw the ball lol. KU- 29 (this is the only game KU will be favored in, they put up 500 yards and scored 38 points against a top 10 fcs school last year, if it weren't for 3 turnovers they would've won the game in year one of Dave Beatty's system. Fast forward to year two, they play a team that got less than 6 FD's last year V's Syracuse. They REALLY struggle to move the ball against other FCS teams. This is more about how bad Rhode Island is year in and year out more than how good KU is. Definitely the most risky play but that's why it's at the bottom of the list)
Anywho, just my thoughts.
Also kind of like NM V's South Dakota. Something about Tripple option teams V's FCS teams that I love. The depth really shows by the third quarter. Only -12.
I think y'all are over analyzing this one to death. It's Florida in The Swamp vs. UMass...period, the end. And oh yeah, they've spent the last 6 months listening to McElwain chew them out for that no-show against Michigan in the Citrus Bowl.
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I think y'all are over analyzing this one to death. It's Florida in The Swamp vs. UMass...period, the end. And oh yeah, they've spent the last 6 months listening to McElwain chew them out for that no-show against Michigan in the Citrus Bowl.
Not sure have a top 3 FCS yet, CMU looks like my top pick. In my initial work though I like a ton of the favorites in the FBS-FCS games but certainly not all of them, had a few dogs that looked interesting but just a few. I think the Georgia running game can be right there with LSU for the best in the country (Also put OU in that mix) Combine Chubb-Michel you had 311 rushes for 1908 yards and 15tds and thats with the inferior guy getting 70% of the carries. NC rushing defense 122nd in yards given up 247.4 last season. UNC gave up 6.6 per carry in finals 3 games versus NC St, Clemson, Baylor, granted those last 2 had great rushing offenses. That bowl game loss to Baylor was as humiliating an effort as I have seen recently. (My Texas Longhorns have had some equally poor efforts vs OU in the past 10 years). UNC has a good Rb, and a dynamic player in Switzer, but hard to see them hanging with Georgia when they have the 10th best DL and 13th best LBs in the ACC. Georgia wins 38-27.
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Not sure have a top 3 FCS yet, CMU looks like my top pick. In my initial work though I like a ton of the favorites in the FBS-FCS games but certainly not all of them, had a few dogs that looked interesting but just a few. I think the Georgia running game can be right there with LSU for the best in the country (Also put OU in that mix) Combine Chubb-Michel you had 311 rushes for 1908 yards and 15tds and thats with the inferior guy getting 70% of the carries. NC rushing defense 122nd in yards given up 247.4 last season. UNC gave up 6.6 per carry in finals 3 games versus NC St, Clemson, Baylor, granted those last 2 had great rushing offenses. That bowl game loss to Baylor was as humiliating an effort as I have seen recently. (My Texas Longhorns have had some equally poor efforts vs OU in the past 10 years). UNC has a good Rb, and a dynamic player in Switzer, but hard to see them hanging with Georgia when they have the 10th best DL and 13th best LBs in the ACC. Georgia wins 38-27.
I'm with you 100% should everyone be healthy but I'm more so asking you what do you think about this game if Michel and or Chubb are not 100% by week 1 as both of them are coming back from serious injuries and AJ Turman transferring to FAU.
What happens if UGA has to start a true freshman at QB in Eason and another freshman at RB with Holyfield's son getting the start?
Is it plug and play with the system and offensive line or do a healthy chubb/michel make the difference?
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I'm with you 100% should everyone be healthy but I'm more so asking you what do you think about this game if Michel and or Chubb are not 100% by week 1 as both of them are coming back from serious injuries and AJ Turman transferring to FAU.
What happens if UGA has to start a true freshman at QB in Eason and another freshman at RB with Holyfield's son getting the start?
Is it plug and play with the system and offensive line or do a healthy chubb/michel make the difference?
Guess we need to wait for the news out during August on that. Not up to speed on the Michel injury? If Chubb is a bit slow out the gate, Michel would be enough to get it done vs NC, but if they are both slowed would have to lay off Georgia. I am sure Georgia has talented recruits but none have proven anything.
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Guess we need to wait for the news out during August on that. Not up to speed on the Michel injury? If Chubb is a bit slow out the gate, Michel would be enough to get it done vs NC, but if they are both slowed would have to lay off Georgia. I am sure Georgia has talented recruits but none have proven anything.
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..sure UMASS sucks, but you are going to give a D1 team almost 40 points in game 1 with a barely 3 star NFL coaches son, who looked pretty good in the spring game, as QB and is expected to average 23 points per game for the entire season...Sure, prima facie, it appears Fla could win by 50+, and probably will, but I have some reservations with regard to a team that gave up 41 points to a Michigan team as a single digit dog in the bowl game, and could only put up 10 points...GL - no play for me, since UMASS is unbackable...still, this cover is far from a certainty, in my opinion...
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