After speaking with associates with Vegas Insider they informed me the %s on spread and money line is total number of betters and has no reflection of amounts being wagered. So useing the UCLA/ K St game as an example where there was a 60/40 slit on the spread favoring K St. In %. Yet the line moved from K St -1 1/2 to a Pickem. Am I to assume the 40% making the line drop is wise guy or smart money?
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After speaking with associates with Vegas Insider they informed me the %s on spread and money line is total number of betters and has no reflection of amounts being wagered. So useing the UCLA/ K St game as an example where there was a 60/40 slit on the spread favoring K St. In %. Yet the line moved from K St -1 1/2 to a Pickem. Am I to assume the 40% making the line drop is wise guy or smart money?
those stats and % displaying action are not valid. Your better off taking the time to poll 20 of your friends to see which side they like to get a sense of where the public and smart/dumb $ is backing for any event
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those stats and % displaying action are not valid. Your better off taking the time to poll 20 of your friends to see which side they like to get a sense of where the public and smart/dumb $ is backing for any event
thats a good assesment and generally how i perceive those moves
but how the hell can we trust a website to make these stats legit and tangible tho...im always looking for new reliable forms of information gathering
u look at 3 diff sites they will all be diff with diff meaning and means of collecting
go to oddshark vegasinsider and covers forums and start comparing thats the only way to get a decent guesstimate without having a person with there finger on the pulse directly
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thats a good assesment and generally how i perceive those moves
but how the hell can we trust a website to make these stats legit and tangible tho...im always looking for new reliable forms of information gathering
u look at 3 diff sites they will all be diff with diff meaning and means of collecting
go to oddshark vegasinsider and covers forums and start comparing thats the only way to get a decent guesstimate without having a person with there finger on the pulse directly
also whose to say that vegas doesnt take the sharps money that night... because its actually more then the public pool
or becasue they have to give the public winners or esle nobody would have any money to bet and lose all confidence in system
the hardest thing is trying to decifer were vegas needs to influence, what game,why, they have a presence in every game
look at ML in conjunction with public play u see 1 sided action u look at the game and cap it see if u can find an advantage
bet with vegas strictly for a wk or two... fade the public it will give u a better idea of how the numbers work into play and how vegas shades situations
once u get a feel for what is most likely going to happen start to live bet situationally, large odds can be found on things that arent "suppose to happen" according to vegas find the ones that you know look good wuth % OT ect...
And always very your approach once you perfect these techniques or vegas will box you in just like they do the public they live on juice mostly fading the public exclusively is designed to just juice you out......
how about we get some more vets, pros, mvps and covers afficionados to talk about the real crux of sports betting we honestly can make each other better............... and this thread is a great start
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also whose to say that vegas doesnt take the sharps money that night... because its actually more then the public pool
or becasue they have to give the public winners or esle nobody would have any money to bet and lose all confidence in system
the hardest thing is trying to decifer were vegas needs to influence, what game,why, they have a presence in every game
look at ML in conjunction with public play u see 1 sided action u look at the game and cap it see if u can find an advantage
bet with vegas strictly for a wk or two... fade the public it will give u a better idea of how the numbers work into play and how vegas shades situations
once u get a feel for what is most likely going to happen start to live bet situationally, large odds can be found on things that arent "suppose to happen" according to vegas find the ones that you know look good wuth % OT ect...
And always very your approach once you perfect these techniques or vegas will box you in just like they do the public they live on juice mostly fading the public exclusively is designed to just juice you out......
how about we get some more vets, pros, mvps and covers afficionados to talk about the real crux of sports betting we honestly can make each other better............... and this thread is a great start
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