End of Season standings using current BCS rankings:
12-1 Oklahoma(loss not being Big 12 championship)
13-0 Oregon
13-0 Boise St.
13-0 Auburn
13-0 TCU
10-2 LSU
13-0 Michigan St.
9-3 Alabama
12-1 Utah
11-1 Ohio St.
this may be a no brainer questions but i just want to see where people stand on current teams. feel free to make your own final record predictions and then adjust who goes accordingly.
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End of Season standings using current BCS rankings:
12-1 Oklahoma(loss not being Big 12 championship)
13-0 Oregon
13-0 Boise St.
13-0 Auburn
13-0 TCU
10-2 LSU
13-0 Michigan St.
9-3 Alabama
12-1 Utah
11-1 Ohio St.
this may be a no brainer questions but i just want to see where people stand on current teams. feel free to make your own final record predictions and then adjust who goes accordingly.
I guess Alabama would have to be 10-2, not 9-3, their only losses coming agaisnt USC 2 weeks ago and Auburn in the Iron Bowl. Alabama does not have that impenetrable look they had prior to losing to USC.
im not sure why Oregon has all this love to be honest. okay, they score a ton of points agaisnt absolutely terrible teams(New Mexico, Portland st, wash st) but they have trailed their 2 best opponents(tenn, Stanford) at half, altho they did end up handily beating both. at lets take a closer look at Oregon win vs stanford. they had a come from behind win agaisnt them IN Eugene. yet why was stanford even ranked 9th? their signature win was against a .500 team in notre dame. thats pathetic if you ask me, yet they somehow jumped all the way to 9 when oregon beat them by 3 scores, making the oregon win look not as good. oregon only has to beat arizona and they have sealed a spot to the NC game, which is hard to swallow personally.
IF auburn goes undefeated, which means wins against 12 South Carolina, 12 Arkansas, 8 Alabama, 6 LSU, 24 Miss St, how do u not send them over and undeafeated Oregon team and even an Oklahoma team?
i know im a homer, but i think its a valid question. nightmares of 2004 have been haunting us war eagles, altho i know why we got snubbed that year.
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I guess Alabama would have to be 10-2, not 9-3, their only losses coming agaisnt USC 2 weeks ago and Auburn in the Iron Bowl. Alabama does not have that impenetrable look they had prior to losing to USC.
im not sure why Oregon has all this love to be honest. okay, they score a ton of points agaisnt absolutely terrible teams(New Mexico, Portland st, wash st) but they have trailed their 2 best opponents(tenn, Stanford) at half, altho they did end up handily beating both. at lets take a closer look at Oregon win vs stanford. they had a come from behind win agaisnt them IN Eugene. yet why was stanford even ranked 9th? their signature win was against a .500 team in notre dame. thats pathetic if you ask me, yet they somehow jumped all the way to 9 when oregon beat them by 3 scores, making the oregon win look not as good. oregon only has to beat arizona and they have sealed a spot to the NC game, which is hard to swallow personally.
IF auburn goes undefeated, which means wins against 12 South Carolina, 12 Arkansas, 8 Alabama, 6 LSU, 24 Miss St, how do u not send them over and undeafeated Oregon team and even an Oklahoma team?
i know im a homer, but i think its a valid question. nightmares of 2004 have been haunting us war eagles, altho i know why we got snubbed that year.
If Auburn does infact run the table, goes undefeated in regular season, then wins the SEC Championship Game, there is absolutely no chance they would be left out, absolutely zero. Like I said above, Oklahoma wins out, with Auburn running the table, those are your teams.
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If Auburn does infact run the table, goes undefeated in regular season, then wins the SEC Championship Game, there is absolutely no chance they would be left out, absolutely zero. Like I said above, Oklahoma wins out, with Auburn running the table, those are your teams.
on the other hand a 1 loss bama team goes to the show! Boise state and TCU will be evaluated and thrown out of the discussion based on strength of schedule, "if they go undefeated." Boise is going to loose to Nevada, and I also see Missouri pulling an upset this weekend.
Auburn has no D! Secondary is completely exposed. On the flip side so is Bama's! Either Auburn or Bama goes to the show!
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on the other hand a 1 loss bama team goes to the show! Boise state and TCU will be evaluated and thrown out of the discussion based on strength of schedule, "if they go undefeated." Boise is going to loose to Nevada, and I also see Missouri pulling an upset this weekend.
Auburn has no D! Secondary is completely exposed. On the flip side so is Bama's! Either Auburn or Bama goes to the show!
on the other hand a 1 loss bama team goes to the show! Boise state and TCU will be evaluated and thrown out of the discussion based on strength of schedule, "if they go undefeated." Boise is going to loose to Nevada, and I also see Missouri pulling an upset this weekend.
Auburn has no D! Secondary is completely exposed. On the flip side so is Bama's! Either Auburn or Bama goes to the show!
1 Loss Bama team would make it in if all the other BCS conference schools have a loss too. Oregon, Oklahoma, Mich St, etc. If one school goes undefeated (let's use Oregon), Bama would have a good shot to leapfrog Boise St for spot #2 but they need the SEC to have another 1 loss team that Bama has beaten (ie Auburn or LSU). SEC East is weak as fuck, which will make any 1 loss SEC school a longshot for a BCS game over any undefeated teams.
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Quote Originally Posted by bamastump:
on the other hand a 1 loss bama team goes to the show! Boise state and TCU will be evaluated and thrown out of the discussion based on strength of schedule, "if they go undefeated." Boise is going to loose to Nevada, and I also see Missouri pulling an upset this weekend.
Auburn has no D! Secondary is completely exposed. On the flip side so is Bama's! Either Auburn or Bama goes to the show!
1 Loss Bama team would make it in if all the other BCS conference schools have a loss too. Oregon, Oklahoma, Mich St, etc. If one school goes undefeated (let's use Oregon), Bama would have a good shot to leapfrog Boise St for spot #2 but they need the SEC to have another 1 loss team that Bama has beaten (ie Auburn or LSU). SEC East is weak as fuck, which will make any 1 loss SEC school a longshot for a BCS game over any undefeated teams.
1 Loss Bama team would make it in if all the other BCS conference schools have a loss too. Oregon, Oklahoma, Mich St, etc. If one school goes undefeated (let's use Oregon), Bama would have a good shot to leapfrog Boise St for spot #2 but they need the SEC to have another 1 loss team that Bama has beaten (ie Auburn or LSU). SEC East is weak as fuck, which will make any 1 loss SEC school a longshot for a BCS game over any undefeated teams.
In order for Bama to go to the show. Auburn has to come in Bryant Denny undefeated. Win the SEC championship game and they will go to the show! If Auburn goes undefeated they will go to the show. Bama has the hardest schedule in college football! ONE loss and they go to the show. Just ask Florida a few years ago when they lost to Ole Miss and several undefeated teams were out their. SEC championship teams usually play for the title.
Auburn will not get passed over like they did in 04! Strength of schedule will be a factor this year.
My prediction is Bama and Oregon! or Bama and Oklahoma
TCU and BOISE do not deserve to go to the show!
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Quote Originally Posted by UrdaddyinAZ:
1 Loss Bama team would make it in if all the other BCS conference schools have a loss too. Oregon, Oklahoma, Mich St, etc. If one school goes undefeated (let's use Oregon), Bama would have a good shot to leapfrog Boise St for spot #2 but they need the SEC to have another 1 loss team that Bama has beaten (ie Auburn or LSU). SEC East is weak as fuck, which will make any 1 loss SEC school a longshot for a BCS game over any undefeated teams.
In order for Bama to go to the show. Auburn has to come in Bryant Denny undefeated. Win the SEC championship game and they will go to the show! If Auburn goes undefeated they will go to the show. Bama has the hardest schedule in college football! ONE loss and they go to the show. Just ask Florida a few years ago when they lost to Ole Miss and several undefeated teams were out their. SEC championship teams usually play for the title.
Auburn will not get passed over like they did in 04! Strength of schedule will be a factor this year.
My prediction is Bama and Oregon! or Bama and Oklahoma
In order for Bama to go to the show. Auburn has to come in Bryant Denny undefeated. Win the SEC championship game and they will go to the show! If Auburn goes undefeated they will go to the show. Bama has the hardest schedule in college football! ONE loss and they go to the show. Just ask Florida a few years ago when they lost to Ole Miss and several undefeated teams were out their. SEC championship teams usually play for the title.
Auburn will not get passed over like they did in 04! Strength of schedule will be a factor this year.
My prediction is Bama and Oregon! or Bama and Oklahoma
TCU and BOISE do not deserve to go to the show!
You make valid points, but your Bama and conference bias shine through in the end. The SEC champion normally goes to the BCS Championship because, over the last few years, 2 unfeated teams play in the SEC championship and the league has several top 25 and even top 10 teams making their computer ranking very high (as it should be). This year is shaping up as a cluster fuck for the SEC, after Saturday you will have 1 undefeated SEC team left with 4 weeks left to play. There is a distinct possibility that all SEC schools will have at least 2 losses this year. Now here's where the bias sets in. SEC fans will tout this is cause of such great teams and parity, thus thinking their conf winner should represent one half of the BCS championship picture. Bullshit! Yes the SEC is fuckin tough, they have great talent, and they have been dominant for several years now. That said, you need to run the fucking table in college football to be the champ. It's been that way for years! Why change that now? If all other BCS conf teams have 1 loss, then the top SEC team should be #1. If Boise is the only school to be undefeated this year and all the other top 10 schools like Okla, Oregon, Aub, Iowa, Ohio St have one loss......you mean to tell me you'd rather see one of them play Bama for the title? Over the team with 24 consecutive wins? They beat two BCS teams last year in Oregon and TCU. Oregon is back to the top this year with argueably a weaker team, Boise lost 1-2 starters from last years team. TCU is doing the same thing they did last year, Boise beat them. Here's the wild card.....Va Tech is gonna win the ACC this year, mark my words. Then that quality win that was stripped after the loss to James Madison will resurface and be enough to push them over any non SEC one loss school for a chance to play for the title.
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Quote Originally Posted by bamastump:
In order for Bama to go to the show. Auburn has to come in Bryant Denny undefeated. Win the SEC championship game and they will go to the show! If Auburn goes undefeated they will go to the show. Bama has the hardest schedule in college football! ONE loss and they go to the show. Just ask Florida a few years ago when they lost to Ole Miss and several undefeated teams were out their. SEC championship teams usually play for the title.
Auburn will not get passed over like they did in 04! Strength of schedule will be a factor this year.
My prediction is Bama and Oregon! or Bama and Oklahoma
TCU and BOISE do not deserve to go to the show!
You make valid points, but your Bama and conference bias shine through in the end. The SEC champion normally goes to the BCS Championship because, over the last few years, 2 unfeated teams play in the SEC championship and the league has several top 25 and even top 10 teams making their computer ranking very high (as it should be). This year is shaping up as a cluster fuck for the SEC, after Saturday you will have 1 undefeated SEC team left with 4 weeks left to play. There is a distinct possibility that all SEC schools will have at least 2 losses this year. Now here's where the bias sets in. SEC fans will tout this is cause of such great teams and parity, thus thinking their conf winner should represent one half of the BCS championship picture. Bullshit! Yes the SEC is fuckin tough, they have great talent, and they have been dominant for several years now. That said, you need to run the fucking table in college football to be the champ. It's been that way for years! Why change that now? If all other BCS conf teams have 1 loss, then the top SEC team should be #1. If Boise is the only school to be undefeated this year and all the other top 10 schools like Okla, Oregon, Aub, Iowa, Ohio St have one loss......you mean to tell me you'd rather see one of them play Bama for the title? Over the team with 24 consecutive wins? They beat two BCS teams last year in Oregon and TCU. Oregon is back to the top this year with argueably a weaker team, Boise lost 1-2 starters from last years team. TCU is doing the same thing they did last year, Boise beat them. Here's the wild card.....Va Tech is gonna win the ACC this year, mark my words. Then that quality win that was stripped after the loss to James Madison will resurface and be enough to push them over any non SEC one loss school for a chance to play for the title.
You make valid points, but your Bama and conference bias shine through in the end. The SEC champion normally goes to the BCS Championship because, over the last few years, 2 unfeated teams play in the SEC championship and the league has several top 25 and even top 10 teams making their computer ranking very high (as it should be). This year is shaping up as a cluster fuck for the SEC, after Saturday you will have 1 undefeated SEC team left with 4 weeks left to play. There is a distinct possibility that all SEC schools will have at least 2 losses this year. Now here's where the bias sets in. SEC fans will tout this is cause of such great teams and parity, thus thinking their conf winner should represent one half of the BCS championship picture. Bullshit! Yes the SEC is fuckin tough, they have great talent, and they have been dominant for several years now. That said, you need to run the fucking table in college football to be the champ. It's been that way for years! Why change that now? If all other BCS conf teams have 1 loss, then the top SEC team should be #1. If Boise is the only school to be undefeated this year and all the other top 10 schools like Okla, Oregon, Aub, Iowa, Ohio St have one loss......you mean to tell me you'd rather see one of them play Bama for the title? Over the team with 24 consecutive wins? They beat two BCS teams last year in Oregon and TCU. Oregon is back to the top this year with argueably a weaker team, Boise lost 1-2 starters from last years team. TCU is doing the same thing they did last year, Boise beat them. Here's the wild card.....Va Tech is gonna win the ACC this year, mark my words. Then that quality win that was stripped after the loss to James Madison will resurface and be enough to push them over any non SEC one loss school for a chance to play for the title.
You also make a good point. But, if you are arguing that Boise should go to the show, I am not buying it. If Boise and TCU are the only 2 teams that go undefeated this year they still should not play for a title. Boise started off play an overranked Va Tech school who has gone down hill since week one. Just for shits and giggles we say that Boise goes to the show, what do you think will happen? I will tell you what will happen if they face and SEC team, they will get that ASS handed to them. A few years ago HAWAII thought they should play for the title and bitched and moaned and Georgia with 2 losses comes in and just emberasses hawaii. I am not saying Bama is going to the show, we have way to many players on O and D that are hurt. Just don't see Boise or TCU going to the show. The BCS is out to make money and who would want to watch a Boise Vs. TCU National Title game?
I sure as hell would not want to watch it.
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Quote Originally Posted by UrdaddyinAZ:
You make valid points, but your Bama and conference bias shine through in the end. The SEC champion normally goes to the BCS Championship because, over the last few years, 2 unfeated teams play in the SEC championship and the league has several top 25 and even top 10 teams making their computer ranking very high (as it should be). This year is shaping up as a cluster fuck for the SEC, after Saturday you will have 1 undefeated SEC team left with 4 weeks left to play. There is a distinct possibility that all SEC schools will have at least 2 losses this year. Now here's where the bias sets in. SEC fans will tout this is cause of such great teams and parity, thus thinking their conf winner should represent one half of the BCS championship picture. Bullshit! Yes the SEC is fuckin tough, they have great talent, and they have been dominant for several years now. That said, you need to run the fucking table in college football to be the champ. It's been that way for years! Why change that now? If all other BCS conf teams have 1 loss, then the top SEC team should be #1. If Boise is the only school to be undefeated this year and all the other top 10 schools like Okla, Oregon, Aub, Iowa, Ohio St have one loss......you mean to tell me you'd rather see one of them play Bama for the title? Over the team with 24 consecutive wins? They beat two BCS teams last year in Oregon and TCU. Oregon is back to the top this year with argueably a weaker team, Boise lost 1-2 starters from last years team. TCU is doing the same thing they did last year, Boise beat them. Here's the wild card.....Va Tech is gonna win the ACC this year, mark my words. Then that quality win that was stripped after the loss to James Madison will resurface and be enough to push them over any non SEC one loss school for a chance to play for the title.
You also make a good point. But, if you are arguing that Boise should go to the show, I am not buying it. If Boise and TCU are the only 2 teams that go undefeated this year they still should not play for a title. Boise started off play an overranked Va Tech school who has gone down hill since week one. Just for shits and giggles we say that Boise goes to the show, what do you think will happen? I will tell you what will happen if they face and SEC team, they will get that ASS handed to them. A few years ago HAWAII thought they should play for the title and bitched and moaned and Georgia with 2 losses comes in and just emberasses hawaii. I am not saying Bama is going to the show, we have way to many players on O and D that are hurt. Just don't see Boise or TCU going to the show. The BCS is out to make money and who would want to watch a Boise Vs. TCU National Title game?
You also make a good point. But, if you are arguing that Boise should go to the show, I am not buying it. If Boise and TCU are the only 2 teams that go undefeated this year they still should not play for a title. Boise started off play an overranked Va Tech school who has gone down hill since week one. Just for shits and giggles we say that Boise goes to the show, what do you think will happen? I will tell you what will happen if they face and SEC team, they will get that ASS handed to them. A few years ago HAWAII thought they should play for the title and bitched and moaned and Georgia with 2 losses comes in and just emberasses hawaii. I am not saying Bama is going to the show, we have way to many players on O and D that are hurt. Just don't see Boise or TCU going to the show. The BCS is out to make money and who would want to watch a Boise Vs. TCU National Title game?
I sure as hell would not want to watch it.
Boise isn't hawaii. and nobody is blowing them out straight up. and remeber a few years ago when utah kicked bama's ass? so whats wrong with utah and tcu as well. and u'd still watch tcu vs boise, don't kid yourself.
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Quote Originally Posted by bamastump:
You also make a good point. But, if you are arguing that Boise should go to the show, I am not buying it. If Boise and TCU are the only 2 teams that go undefeated this year they still should not play for a title. Boise started off play an overranked Va Tech school who has gone down hill since week one. Just for shits and giggles we say that Boise goes to the show, what do you think will happen? I will tell you what will happen if they face and SEC team, they will get that ASS handed to them. A few years ago HAWAII thought they should play for the title and bitched and moaned and Georgia with 2 losses comes in and just emberasses hawaii. I am not saying Bama is going to the show, we have way to many players on O and D that are hurt. Just don't see Boise or TCU going to the show. The BCS is out to make money and who would want to watch a Boise Vs. TCU National Title game?
I sure as hell would not want to watch it.
Boise isn't hawaii. and nobody is blowing them out straight up. and remeber a few years ago when utah kicked bama's ass? so whats wrong with utah and tcu as well. and u'd still watch tcu vs boise, don't kid yourself.
why the love for Oregon? they beat an overanked stanford team and they were down by 3 TDs at one point, plus just look at the other teams they have played, its as bad as boises schedule thru week 7. if oklahoma, LSU/Auburn, and oregon go undeafeated, it will be the SEC school vs oklahoma, plain and simple
and depending on factors that went into the one loss a team may have, they still deserve to go over boise. i dont care what they did last year or any other year. they will be snubbed every year up until they join a real conference. its even worse that they are moving to the mwc bc then if they beat TCU/Utah, they will look great even tho those teams play no1 either.
i dont care what anyone says, strength of schedule is the single most determining factor after wins/losses. no way getting around that. with the exception of tennessee and vandy this year, every other SEC team would go undefeated with boises schedule, and thats just the SEC.
you play noone, you get no respect. whether its their fault or not is not the issue. boise st should want to see themselves in a tougher conference and then have national title dreams. they cant just get the free pass. they have to earn it and going 12-0 against basically FCS schools isnt going to get it done. call me an SEC homer or whatever, its basic fact and if you dont agree, you are wrong. no narrow mindedness, just pure fact.
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why the love for Oregon? they beat an overanked stanford team and they were down by 3 TDs at one point, plus just look at the other teams they have played, its as bad as boises schedule thru week 7. if oklahoma, LSU/Auburn, and oregon go undeafeated, it will be the SEC school vs oklahoma, plain and simple
and depending on factors that went into the one loss a team may have, they still deserve to go over boise. i dont care what they did last year or any other year. they will be snubbed every year up until they join a real conference. its even worse that they are moving to the mwc bc then if they beat TCU/Utah, they will look great even tho those teams play no1 either.
i dont care what anyone says, strength of schedule is the single most determining factor after wins/losses. no way getting around that. with the exception of tennessee and vandy this year, every other SEC team would go undefeated with boises schedule, and thats just the SEC.
you play noone, you get no respect. whether its their fault or not is not the issue. boise st should want to see themselves in a tougher conference and then have national title dreams. they cant just get the free pass. they have to earn it and going 12-0 against basically FCS schools isnt going to get it done. call me an SEC homer or whatever, its basic fact and if you dont agree, you are wrong. no narrow mindedness, just pure fact.
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