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    Posted: Jul. 25, 2011 - 10:10 AM ET #1

    have you seen this?  us news and world report ranks diets.  it looks like their number one diet has a lot of whole grains.  then have the paloe diet last.  i'm not a big fan of thes rankings. 

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    have you seen this?  us news and world report ranks diets.  it looks like their number one diet has a lot of whole grains.  then have the paloe diet last.  i'm not a big fan of thes rankings. 

     
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    First of all, there is no evidence presented such as data from randomized clinical trials or statistics models or medical journal reports to support these rankings. They are just opinions by a few so called "experts" and we as the public should just believe in it without question.

    Lets look at the rankings in more detail. There are eight categories in which the data is divided into. There is an overall rating and seven sub-categories. For example, If you look at the rankings in the "for diabetes" category, the DASH Diet has the highest score and the Paleo Diet has the lowest. Now let me get this straight, if you are trying to manage your blood sugar you should eat more of the foods which are causing the increase in blood sugar to begin with. That is what the DASH Diet says, eat lots of grains and fruits so you can control diabetes.  

    In the "nutrition" sub-category it seems like high carbohydrate diets dominate once again and the Paleo and Atkins type diets are ranked at the bottom. The top diets in this category are telling us that the majority of our diets should contain carbohydrate which is not an essential nutrient in humans. So these "experts" actually believe that a Vegan Diet is more nutritious than a Paleo Diet. Our body needs fat and proteins in the form of amino acids and the top few diets in this category seem to try and minimize the foods that contain these macronutrients. 

    As for "the long-term weight loss" category, the top three in order are Weight Watcher's. Raw Food Diet, Vegan Diet. The bottom three are the Paleo Diet, Medifast, Glycemic Index Diet. So if we want optimal long-term weight loss we should follow a diet which involves a point system in which we can eat whatever we want as long as it is within the allowable points total. Sounds silly to me. Or we can follow a Vegan Diet where there is very little satiety and we would be eating large amounts of carbohydrate which contributes to gaining weight in the way it regulates insulin and leptin. According to these rankings,  The Glycemic Index Diet should be avoided for long-term weight loss even though it helps regulate blood sugar and controls hunger. The Paleo Diet should be avoided for long-term weight loss even though it helps control hunger and cravings because it keeps us satiated and controls insulin levels. So this study is saying that following diets where you are constantly hungry and have cravings and higher insulin levels is the best for long-term weight loss. This does not make any sense at all.

     The only way I can describe this report is that it is a joke and it bothers me that they can get away with publishing this kind of nonsense. I think it is clear who sponsored and paid for these so called experts to give their opinions on what the best diets are for us to follow. 
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    First of all, there is no evidence presented such as data from randomized clinical trials or statistics models or medical journal reports to support these rankings. They are just opinions by a few so called "experts" and we as the public should just believe in it without question.

    Lets look at the rankings in more detail. There are eight categories in which the data is divided into. There is an overall rating and seven sub-categories. For example, If you look at the rankings in the "for diabetes" category, the DASH Diet has the highest score and the Paleo Diet has the lowest. Now let me get this straight, if you are trying to manage your blood sugar you should eat more of the foods which are causing the increase in blood sugar to begin with. That is what the DASH Diet says, eat lots of grains and fruits so you can control diabetes.  

    In the "nutrition" sub-category it seems like high carbohydrate diets dominate once again and the Paleo and Atkins type diets are ranked at the bottom. The top diets in this category are telling us that the majority of our diets should contain carbohydrate which is not an essential nutrient in humans. So these "experts" actually believe that a Vegan Diet is more nutritious than a Paleo Diet. Our body needs fat and proteins in the form of amino acids and the top few diets in this category seem to try and minimize the foods that contain these macronutrients. 

    As for "the long-term weight loss" category, the top three in order are Weight Watcher's. Raw Food Diet, Vegan Diet. The bottom three are the Paleo Diet, Medifast, Glycemic Index Diet. So if we want optimal long-term weight loss we should follow a diet which involves a point system in which we can eat whatever we want as long as it is within the allowable points total. Sounds silly to me. Or we can follow a Vegan Diet where there is very little satiety and we would be eating large amounts of carbohydrate which contributes to gaining weight in the way it regulates insulin and leptin. According to these rankings,  The Glycemic Index Diet should be avoided for long-term weight loss even though it helps regulate blood sugar and controls hunger. The Paleo Diet should be avoided for long-term weight loss even though it helps control hunger and cravings because it keeps us satiated and controls insulin levels. So this study is saying that following diets where you are constantly hungry and have cravings and higher insulin levels is the best for long-term weight loss. This does not make any sense at all.

     The only way I can describe this report is that it is a joke and it bothers me that they can get away with publishing this kind of nonsense. I think it is clear who sponsored and paid for these so called experts to give their opinions on what the best diets are for us to follow. 
     
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    i figured it was a waste of time looking at a us news and world report article.  that's their thing, they rank things.  the magazine is garbage, i'm not sure how it stays in business.  
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    i figured it was a waste of time looking at a us news and world report article.  that's their thing, they rank things.  the magazine is garbage, i'm not sure how it stays in business.  
     
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    sharp...are you a doctor?
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    guess not...
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    Quote Originally Posted by michaelpaul1:

    sharp...are you a doctor?

    No, I am not a doctor. 
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    sharp...are you a doctor?

    No, I am not a doctor. 
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