Where does a point spread truely originate?

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Anyone?

bssports · Answer

Anyone?

mr_bollox · Answer

from an odds compiler who creates a "tissue", an idea of what the line should or will be, different books then adjust it according to their opinions and/or liabilities

bssports · Answer

Who or what casino compiles the odds?

cappingstrong · Answer

i always thought vanzack came up with them

mr_bollox · Answer

depends on the sport and if its high profile or not.

pat_d · Answer

openers all come from offshore books these daysbetcris and the greek are usually first out with numbers.  everyone else copies them.

pezeveng · Answer

use to be the Roxy line out of Vegas, now Vegas waits for the offshore books to set the line. Even second half lines are copied now.

I thought it would be Pinnacle and the Greek as the main 2.

Syddigs · Answer

[Quote: Originally Posted by pezeveng]  use to be the Roxy line out of Vegas, now Vegas waits for the offshore books to set the line.  Even second half lines are copied now.&#xD;&#xA;I thought it would be Pinnacle and the Greek as the main 2.  [/Quote]The books get the lines from a couple of services out of Vegas and then they marry the lines together.BetCris and the Greek are the main two. Pinnacle and the rest  just rip off their lines.Classic example yesterday in a WNBA 2nd half proved this. The Greek went up first with 82 and Pinnacel followed with the same number. The number was WRONG. 10 seconds later BetCris were up with 89 and both books quickly joined Cris.

MWC · Answer

LVSC

44-dimes · Answer

Kenny White is owner and operator of the LAS VEGAS SPORTS CONSULTANTS. His company consists of half a dozen or so odds makers that meet every day in an office and make lines. The lines are usually made between 12 00 AND 3 00 PM EST.
Once they form a consensus, the lines are offered to groups of professional sports gamblers ( not touts ) at of course limited wagering. It's like getting a strong second opinion. Then at about 3 30 pm the lines are offered to selected off shore sports books.
Then the lines become available to the betting public around 4 00 PM EST the day before. The first off shore sports books to post the lines ( not in any specific order are ) BOOKMAKER, THE GREEK,PINNY and 5 DIMES.
AFTER THAT THE LINES ARE ADJUSTED ACCORDINGLY.

VegasGourmet · Answer

44dimes....&#xD;&#xA;Kenny White is NOT the owner/operator of LVSC....they were purchased last year by Cantor Gaming, a division of Cantor Fitzgerald Investment, and the company that is running the book at The M Hotel and the in-game betting at the Venetian on the Strip. Kenny White is a senior exec at LVSC; but reports to Cantor Gaming.

bakemcbride · Answer

[Quote: Originally Posted by 44-dimes] Kenny White is owner and operator of the LAS VEGAS SPORTS CONSULTANTS. His company consists of half a dozen or so odds makers that meet every day in an office and make lines. The lines are usually made between 12 00 AND 3 00 PM EST. Once they form a consensus, the lines are offered to  groups of professional sports gamblers ( not touts ) at of course limited wagering. It&#x27;s like getting a strong second opinion. Then at about 3 30 pm the lines are offered to selected off shore sports books.Then the lines become available to the betting public around 4 00 PM EST the day before. The first off shore sports books to post the lines ( not in any specific order are ) BOOKMAKER, THE GREEK,PINNY and 5 DIMES. AFTER THAT THE LINES ARE ADJUSTED ACCORDINGLY.[/Quote]&#xD;&#xA;Anyone can answer this...&#xD;&#xA; &#xD;&#xA;Does this go for foreign sports as well like International Soccer, cricket, aussie rules football and Intl basketball, or is there another entity that sets those lines who has a greater knowledge of the sport?

VegasGourmet · Answer

I would strongly assume (I do not have first-hand knowledge) that international sportslines come from England and British-based offshores. They have had legal bookies long before we had Vegas

Vegas, typically, does not set or offer lines on sports that they do not show to the bettors....cricket, for example.

cjm2008 · Answer

Just read a great article on Kenny White

Where does a point spread truely originate?

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