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    Black Kids Can't Graduate

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    ClubDirt
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    Posted: Aug. 18, 2010 - 11:14 AM ET #1

    how is this not a huge deal. why aren't jackson and sharpton, or at least scalabrine, and whoever else pretends to give a shit about black people up in arms over this?  these percentages are amazing to me. 

    some of these detroit students should move to somalia or north korea, where i hear the graduation rates are higher

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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.

    how is this not a huge deal. why aren't jackson and sharpton, or at least scalabrine, and whoever else pretends to give a shit about black people up in arms over this?  these percentages are amazing to me. 

    some of these detroit students should move to somalia or north korea, where i hear the graduation rates are higher

     
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    Posted: Aug. 18, 2010 - 11:27 AM ET #2

    just my opinion, but there's not a lot of parents who raise their children like when i was that age. Speaking of all races for that matter. You can also factor in one parent households imo as well. Drop them off at the shopping malls and do your thing  
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    just my opinion, but there's not a lot of parents who raise their children like when i was that age. Speaking of all races for that matter. You can also factor in one parent households imo as well. Drop them off at the shopping malls and do your thing  
     
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    Posted: Aug. 18, 2010 - 11:34 AM ET #3

    In Detroit, the numbers were dramatically different.

    According to the survey, the black male graduation rate is 27 percent and the white graduation rate is just 19 percent.

     

    Deetroit City 

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    In Detroit, the numbers were dramatically different.

    According to the survey, the black male graduation rate is 27 percent and the white graduation rate is just 19 percent.

     

    Deetroit City 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 18, 2010 - 11:41 AM ET #4

    Very sad statistic, I saw this on the NBC National News last night.


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    Very sad statistic, I saw this on the NBC National News last night.


     
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    Posted: Aug. 18, 2010 - 11:55 AM ET #5

    Their solution will be to make it easier for blacks to graduate, further dumbing down of America, and yet another avoidance of black accountability for their own difficulties.
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    Their solution will be to make it easier for blacks to graduate, further dumbing down of America, and yet another avoidance of black accountability for their own difficulties.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 18, 2010 - 12:41 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by captjohn67:

    just my opinion, but there's not a lot of parents who raise their children like when i was that age. Speaking of all races for that matter. You can also factor in one parent households imo as well. Drop them off at the shopping malls and do your thing  

    i would agree that single parent households with no dad around and a mom who is either a shitty parent or has to work 2 jobs to support her 4 kids and can't be around is a huge factor, probably the biggest factor.  but these numbers are so outrageous, i'm sure there are several more key factors involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by captjohn67:

    just my opinion, but there's not a lot of parents who raise their children like when i was that age. Speaking of all races for that matter. You can also factor in one parent households imo as well. Drop them off at the shopping malls and do your thing  

    i would agree that single parent households with no dad around and a mom who is either a shitty parent or has to work 2 jobs to support her 4 kids and can't be around is a huge factor, probably the biggest factor.  but these numbers are so outrageous, i'm sure there are several more key factors involved.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 18, 2010 - 1:23 PM ET #7

    shitty teachers, good teachers that are scared of their students, emphasis put on sports, as well as several other factors, as you say  
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    shitty teachers, good teachers that are scared of their students, emphasis put on sports, as well as several other factors, as you say  
     
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    Posted: Aug. 18, 2010 - 1:32 PM ET #8

    i know the ultra liberals don't like to hear this but culture has to play a big part of it as well.  if you value hard work, school, etc, it's going to have an impact.  our government, as usual, doesn't help with poorly executed entitlement programs. 
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    i know the ultra liberals don't like to hear this but culture has to play a big part of it as well.  if you value hard work, school, etc, it's going to have an impact.  our government, as usual, doesn't help with poorly executed entitlement programs. 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 18, 2010 - 2:15 PM ET #9

    "In Detroit, the numbers were dramatically different.

    According to the survey, the black male graduation rate is 27 percent and the white graduation rate is just 19 percent."

    I understand Detroit is a complete shithole, but the above numbers are just eye popping.

    Don't get me wrong, its not like a high school diploma is worth anything these days, but for the most part its a good start.

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    "In Detroit, the numbers were dramatically different.

    According to the survey, the black male graduation rate is 27 percent and the white graduation rate is just 19 percent."

    I understand Detroit is a complete shithole, but the above numbers are just eye popping.

    Don't get me wrong, its not like a high school diploma is worth anything these days, but for the most part its a good start.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 18, 2010 - 2:16 PM ET #10

    The situation is a whole lot more complicated with many facets involved than a simple statistic of an ethnic group not doing well in school. 

    Sheeesh!!!

    No one is this uninformed about all the 2-3 dozen resons for this, are they?

    Not everyone gets born white in a midwestern suburb where they always have quality teachers, learning supplies, and accountability for the educational staff like I was fortunate to just be born into. Had it been the other way around, I'd have never gone to college, and maybe be in prison right now looking for ways to get out of bad situations.

    My whole education was built arounfd sgrict enforcement of quality teachers jamming getting through the educational process down my throat.

    It's not the same, obviously in poorer school systems.....They don't give a shit.......

    Oh yeah, I was also quite fortunate with a good family structure,,,,,(that I was born into luck of the draw)


    I guess that's about 3-4 out of the 2-3 dozen reasons...........
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    The situation is a whole lot more complicated with many facets involved than a simple statistic of an ethnic group not doing well in school. 

    Sheeesh!!!

    No one is this uninformed about all the 2-3 dozen resons for this, are they?

    Not everyone gets born white in a midwestern suburb where they always have quality teachers, learning supplies, and accountability for the educational staff like I was fortunate to just be born into. Had it been the other way around, I'd have never gone to college, and maybe be in prison right now looking for ways to get out of bad situations.

    My whole education was built arounfd sgrict enforcement of quality teachers jamming getting through the educational process down my throat.

    It's not the same, obviously in poorer school systems.....They don't give a shit.......

    Oh yeah, I was also quite fortunate with a good family structure,,,,,(that I was born into luck of the draw)


    I guess that's about 3-4 out of the 2-3 dozen reasons...........
     
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    Posted: Aug. 18, 2010 - 2:17 PM ET #11

    Clubdirt, no offense to you as we seem to be on the same page.........
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    Clubdirt, no offense to you as we seem to be on the same page.........
     
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    Posted: Aug. 18, 2010 - 2:56 PM ET #12

    Quote Originally Posted by dennishopson:

    The situation is a whole lot more complicated with many facets involved than a simple statistic of an ethnic group not doing well in school. 

    Sheeesh!!!

    No one is this uninformed about all the 2-3 dozen resons for this, are they?

    Not everyone gets born white in a midwestern suburb where they always have quality teachers, learning supplies, and accountability for the educational staff like I was fortunate to just be born into. Had it been the other way around, I'd have never gone to college, and maybe be in prison right now looking for ways to get out of bad situations.

    My whole education was built arounfd sgrict enforcement of quality teachers jamming getting through the educational process down my throat.

    It's not the same, obviously in poorer school systems.....They don't give a shit.......

    Oh yeah, I was also quite fortunate with a good family structure,,,,,(that I was born into luck of the draw)


    I guess that's about 3-4 out of the 2-3 dozen reasons...........

    Good point DHOP

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    Quote Originally Posted by dennishopson:

    The situation is a whole lot more complicated with many facets involved than a simple statistic of an ethnic group not doing well in school. 

    Sheeesh!!!

    No one is this uninformed about all the 2-3 dozen resons for this, are they?

    Not everyone gets born white in a midwestern suburb where they always have quality teachers, learning supplies, and accountability for the educational staff like I was fortunate to just be born into. Had it been the other way around, I'd have never gone to college, and maybe be in prison right now looking for ways to get out of bad situations.

    My whole education was built arounfd sgrict enforcement of quality teachers jamming getting through the educational process down my throat.

    It's not the same, obviously in poorer school systems.....They don't give a shit.......

    Oh yeah, I was also quite fortunate with a good family structure,,,,,(that I was born into luck of the draw)


    I guess that's about 3-4 out of the 2-3 dozen reasons...........

    Good point DHOP

     
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    Posted: Aug. 18, 2010 - 3:28 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

    i know the ultra liberals don't like to hear this but culture has to play a big part of it as well.  if you value hard work, school, etc, it's going to have an impact.  our government, as usual, doesn't help with poorly executed entitlement programs. 



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    Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

    i know the ultra liberals don't like to hear this but culture has to play a big part of it as well.  if you value hard work, school, etc, it's going to have an impact.  our government, as usual, doesn't help with poorly executed entitlement programs. 



     
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    Posted: Aug. 18, 2010 - 4:32 PM ET #14

    it's not "hip" for a young black kid to study and be smart or else they get called an uncle tom.
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    it's not "hip" for a young black kid to study and be smart or else they get called an uncle tom.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 18, 2010 - 10:23 PM ET #15

    19% for whites? I don't believe that.
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    19% for whites? I don't believe that.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 19, 2010 - 3:35 AM ET #16

    Very sad, no future
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    Very sad, no future
     
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    Posted: Aug. 19, 2010 - 4:20 AM ET #17

    They should simply divide things by race...

    asians do medicine, technology, accounting, (anything that requires brains)

    white people do sales and customer service...

    whites and mexicans do construction and manual labor..

    black people play sports, dance and make music...

    and no need for schools
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    They should simply divide things by race...

    asians do medicine, technology, accounting, (anything that requires brains)

    white people do sales and customer service...

    whites and mexicans do construction and manual labor..

    black people play sports, dance and make music...

    and no need for schools
     
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    Posted: Aug. 19, 2010 - 12:03 PM ET #18

    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

    They should simply divide things by race...

    asians do medicine, technology, accounting, (anything that requires brains)

    white people do sales and customer service...

    whites and mexicans do construction and manual labor..

    black people play sports, dance and make music...

    and no need for schools


    NO!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

    They should simply divide things by race...

    asians do medicine, technology, accounting, (anything that requires brains)

    white people do sales and customer service...

    whites and mexicans do construction and manual labor..

    black people play sports, dance and make music...

    and no need for schools


    NO!
     
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    Posted: Aug. 19, 2010 - 11:17 PM ET #19

     

    Unreal

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    Unreal

     
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    Posted: Aug. 20, 2010 - 12:19 AM ET #20

    Affirmative action will kick in at some point (be thankful that theres not many Micronesians around, i think only 10% have ever seen a school, much less attended one).
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    Affirmative action will kick in at some point (be thankful that theres not many Micronesians around, i think only 10% have ever seen a school, much less attended one).
     
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    Posted: Aug. 20, 2010 - 12:22 AM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by bootyleggs:

    19% for whites? I don't believe that.


    White trash?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bootyleggs:

    19% for whites? I don't believe that.


    White trash?
     
     
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    Posted: Aug. 20, 2010 - 12:23 AM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by bootyleggs:

    19% for whites? I don't believe that.

    There's only 12 white kids in the Detroit school system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bootyleggs:

    19% for whites? I don't believe that.

    There's only 12 white kids in the Detroit school system.

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