I just literally thought about this minutes ago. I myself am a union laborer who makes a solid wage considering i'm not educated. the problem is i've collected alot of unemployment this year, i only worked like 3 months all year. I am grateful for unemployment am actively seeking working, but i was just thinking since our economy terrible, our townships, city's, states are all in debt maybe the government could make up jobs for us like basic jobs like construction or volenteering or work around the community or something positive, instead of giving out billions of dollars. i know it's not really '"free money" but they could force us 2 work for our unenjoyment and maybe that could be could for both the government and us. i mean im not lazy, im willing to do whatever. i dunno, I know this is an underdeveloped thought and i may not be the sharpest tool in the shed, but please let me know some reasons why this would never happen?
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I just literally thought about this minutes ago. I myself am a union laborer who makes a solid wage considering i'm not educated. the problem is i've collected alot of unemployment this year, i only worked like 3 months all year. I am grateful for unemployment am actively seeking working, but i was just thinking since our economy terrible, our townships, city's, states are all in debt maybe the government could make up jobs for us like basic jobs like construction or volenteering or work around the community or something positive, instead of giving out billions of dollars. i know it's not really '"free money" but they could force us 2 work for our unenjoyment and maybe that could be could for both the government and us. i mean im not lazy, im willing to do whatever. i dunno, I know this is an underdeveloped thought and i may not be the sharpest tool in the shed, but please let me know some reasons why this would never happen?
I don't know where you live but I believe both Obama and Harper have a similar plan to advance infrastructure money that was planned for future years to keep people such as yourself working. GL on the job search.
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I don't know where you live but I believe both Obama and Harper have a similar plan to advance infrastructure money that was planned for future years to keep people such as yourself working. GL on the job search.
f#ck that. let them pay me. they can bailout all of incompetent corporate fuckheads with billions of dollars they sure as shit can afford the measly $250 or whatever a week they will give me until i find another job.
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f#ck that. let them pay me. they can bailout all of incompetent corporate fuckheads with billions of dollars they sure as shit can afford the measly $250 or whatever a week they will give me until i find another job.
f#ck that. let them pay me. they can bailout all of incompetent corporate fuckheads with billions of dollars they sure as shit can afford the measly $250 or whatever a week they will give me until i find another job.
You don't get government money on unemployment. You get your own money back that you and other workers paid into the fund when you worked. The government just holds the money and administers it.
If anyone should be put to work it is the people on welfare, but then that would just take jobs from others and create more unemployment. Our problem is that we can all the work done that needs to get done with a fraction of our workforce.
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Quote Originally Posted by NJDevils:
f#ck that. let them pay me. they can bailout all of incompetent corporate fuckheads with billions of dollars they sure as shit can afford the measly $250 or whatever a week they will give me until i find another job.
You don't get government money on unemployment. You get your own money back that you and other workers paid into the fund when you worked. The government just holds the money and administers it.
If anyone should be put to work it is the people on welfare, but then that would just take jobs from others and create more unemployment. Our problem is that we can all the work done that needs to get done with a fraction of our workforce.
years ago i would go to a man power/labor ready joint early in the morning. these are the places where you go, put your name on a list, first come first serve, businesses (usually shitty ones) call this place for work for hire, and they give you the address and you head out and work that day....if you got there early enough to put your name down, and if there is enough work that day. you then got paid at the end of the day.
this absolutely sucked balls. you go out and work at a shitty job, obviously no benefits, and make min.wage or just above. so i would work 8 hours and after taxes go home with 35 bucks or so.
i've never been on welfare, but shit, when the govt. makes it so easy to lay around and not do shit, and prob make close to $35 a day for doing so, doesn't make me wonder why all of these fuckers are doing just that.
Now come on, there has to be a poster on Covers that collects welfare, just out of curiousity, how much do you "make"/get a week/month???
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years ago i would go to a man power/labor ready joint early in the morning. these are the places where you go, put your name on a list, first come first serve, businesses (usually shitty ones) call this place for work for hire, and they give you the address and you head out and work that day....if you got there early enough to put your name down, and if there is enough work that day. you then got paid at the end of the day.
this absolutely sucked balls. you go out and work at a shitty job, obviously no benefits, and make min.wage or just above. so i would work 8 hours and after taxes go home with 35 bucks or so.
i've never been on welfare, but shit, when the govt. makes it so easy to lay around and not do shit, and prob make close to $35 a day for doing so, doesn't make me wonder why all of these fuckers are doing just that.
Now come on, there has to be a poster on Covers that collects welfare, just out of curiousity, how much do you "make"/get a week/month???
i really am just curious as to how much one makes on welfare
it depends on if they have ANY income, and other factors(numberr of kids). a friend of mine went to prison, and while he was locked up, his wife got welfare for her and the kids. I know it's more than 35$ a day. Not sure exactly how much, but you get food assistance, and either 750$ or $1500 a year credit to use to buy a vehicle. That part burns me up, because i break my back for a wage and have been driving cars worth less than the weight of the scrap metal you could junk them for
and thorpe is right, unemployment comes from money you pay in out of your paycheck (UIC)
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Quote Originally Posted by cmo1037:
...is there no one???
i really am just curious as to how much one makes on welfare
it depends on if they have ANY income, and other factors(numberr of kids). a friend of mine went to prison, and while he was locked up, his wife got welfare for her and the kids. I know it's more than 35$ a day. Not sure exactly how much, but you get food assistance, and either 750$ or $1500 a year credit to use to buy a vehicle. That part burns me up, because i break my back for a wage and have been driving cars worth less than the weight of the scrap metal you could junk them for
and thorpe is right, unemployment comes from money you pay in out of your paycheck (UIC)
according to the thing i got in the mail i will get $275 a week in unemployment benefits. I was getting (after taxes) about 425 a week from my work.
unless i can find a job that pays me over 500 a week so that i can clear 450 or so a week there really isnt that much incentive to accept a $10/hr job.
stay home all week for $275 or work 40 hours to make another $100 a week? hmm
I am looking for a job but it has to be a "better than shitty" one for me to accept
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according to the thing i got in the mail i will get $275 a week in unemployment benefits. I was getting (after taxes) about 425 a week from my work.
unless i can find a job that pays me over 500 a week so that i can clear 450 or so a week there really isnt that much incentive to accept a $10/hr job.
stay home all week for $275 or work 40 hours to make another $100 a week? hmm
I am looking for a job but it has to be a "better than shitty" one for me to accept
Unemployment is a rip off........Companies offer employee's to accrue PTO, Sick and.or Vacation and yet they are still responsible for paying in Unemployment tax so that their past workers can get paid for doing nothing.
Now some deserve it, but those working the system can go to hell.....
Our Unemployment rate was 1.8% for California last year and I was just informed that it has gone up to 3.4% for 2009. Complete BS, we manage our claims and have plenty of reserves. The fact is that employer's are having their rates increased next year because of the increased Unemployment claims that are happening due to the all the layoffs and companies folding or downsizing.
We've been in business over 20+ years and this increase of 1.6% is the highest I have ever seen ours jump.
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Unemployment is a rip off........Companies offer employee's to accrue PTO, Sick and.or Vacation and yet they are still responsible for paying in Unemployment tax so that their past workers can get paid for doing nothing.
Now some deserve it, but those working the system can go to hell.....
Our Unemployment rate was 1.8% for California last year and I was just informed that it has gone up to 3.4% for 2009. Complete BS, we manage our claims and have plenty of reserves. The fact is that employer's are having their rates increased next year because of the increased Unemployment claims that are happening due to the all the layoffs and companies folding or downsizing.
We've been in business over 20+ years and this increase of 1.6% is the highest I have ever seen ours jump.
You don't get government money on unemployment. You get your own money back that you and other workers paid into the fund when you worked. The government just holds the money and administers it.
If anyone should be put to work it is the people on welfare, but then that would just take jobs from others and create more unemployment. Our problem is that we can all the work done that needs to get done with a fraction of our workforce.
This is an entirely untrue statement. Unemployment and FUTA is paid 100% by the employer up to the taxable wage based determined by your state or Federal governmet. FUTA is taxable up to the first $7K in taxable wages for instance.
These Unemployment numbers are not withheld from employee's paychecks at all. This is a tax strictly paid by the employer on the employee's behalf. Not because they want to, but because they are required to. This was never the employee's money to begin with nor was it ever withheld from their pay check.
This is a big misconception. As the employer pays in these amounts to their State Unemployment offices the money is put into that UI accounts reserves. Once an employee begins to draw from Unemployment the reserve begins to be debited from the UI's account. This is one reason that causes the increase to employers UI rates as I mentioned above in my previous post.
Higher UI costs means more money out of the employer's pockets, no the employee's. The employee is not affected in any way shape or form when it comes to Unemployment.
Those of you collecting Unemployment because you feel it's better to collect that then get a lower paying job are only hurting your previous emplolyer(s) and thus the economy if you view it in that manner.
For a company to take a 1.6% increase hike in Unemployment, like our company is going to next year, means big money.
For every $1M in taxable wages our company is going to have to pay an additional $16K to Unemployment. We avearage around $10M in taxable wages for the year in Unemployment so that increase is going to cost our company an additional $160K to the State.
Employee's do not pay into Unemployment and it is not the employee's money, it is the employer's.
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Quote Originally Posted by thorpe:
You don't get government money on unemployment. You get your own money back that you and other workers paid into the fund when you worked. The government just holds the money and administers it.
If anyone should be put to work it is the people on welfare, but then that would just take jobs from others and create more unemployment. Our problem is that we can all the work done that needs to get done with a fraction of our workforce.
This is an entirely untrue statement. Unemployment and FUTA is paid 100% by the employer up to the taxable wage based determined by your state or Federal governmet. FUTA is taxable up to the first $7K in taxable wages for instance.
These Unemployment numbers are not withheld from employee's paychecks at all. This is a tax strictly paid by the employer on the employee's behalf. Not because they want to, but because they are required to. This was never the employee's money to begin with nor was it ever withheld from their pay check.
This is a big misconception. As the employer pays in these amounts to their State Unemployment offices the money is put into that UI accounts reserves. Once an employee begins to draw from Unemployment the reserve begins to be debited from the UI's account. This is one reason that causes the increase to employers UI rates as I mentioned above in my previous post.
Higher UI costs means more money out of the employer's pockets, no the employee's. The employee is not affected in any way shape or form when it comes to Unemployment.
Those of you collecting Unemployment because you feel it's better to collect that then get a lower paying job are only hurting your previous emplolyer(s) and thus the economy if you view it in that manner.
For a company to take a 1.6% increase hike in Unemployment, like our company is going to next year, means big money.
For every $1M in taxable wages our company is going to have to pay an additional $16K to Unemployment. We avearage around $10M in taxable wages for the year in Unemployment so that increase is going to cost our company an additional $160K to the State.
Employee's do not pay into Unemployment and it is not the employee's money, it is the employer's.
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