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Let&#x27;s say I have a friend who has saved up $80k, and has no better way to invest it than to bet on sports...My question is specifically:  What is the issue with playing large amounts on the Money Line, in order to build a larger bankroll (which can then be used to bet standard/flat amounts, teasers, parlays, etc)?For example, starting at $5,000/game, on a favorite NO BIGGER than -1500. -Is it frowned upon to do this?-Is it not &#x27;man enough&#x27; to bet this way?-Is it something a book (online or live) will start to monitor and/or reduce limitations on?-What is/are the down side(s) to doing this?-Besides winning, are there other benefits to this?It seems like a decent way to build up some padding, though the occasional "massive upset" is bound to happen.  Besides money management and smart handicapping, is there anything else I can relay to CG?  I mean, uh....

DUDE-I-TOLD-YOU · Answer

Let&#x27;s say I have a friend who has saved up $80k, and has no better way to invest it than to bet on sports...My question is specifically:  What is the issue with playing large amounts on the Money Line, in order to build a larger bankroll (which can then be used to bet standard/flat amounts, teasers, parlays, etc)?For example, starting at $5,000/game, on a favorite NO BIGGER than -1500. -Is it frowned upon to do this?-Is it not &#x27;man enough&#x27; to bet this way?-Is it something a book (online or live) will start to monitor and/or reduce limitations on?-What is/are the down side(s) to doing this?-Besides winning, are there other benefits to this?It seems like a decent way to build up some padding, though the occasional "massive upset" is bound to happen.  Besides money management and smart handicapping, is there anything else I can relay to CG?  I mean, uh....

SportsFan9698 · Answer

As always, it depends on the game and situation.

Sometimes a -1500 game is a bargain, sometimes a stupid risk.

If you or him are asking this type of questions... I will set an over/under of 3 weeks till he loses it all

jaggermik · Answer

Don&#x27;t learn the hard way.  Or for your friend if that&#x27;s who you are inquiring for.Listen, it&#x27;s not about not being man enough or being frowned upon. I mean who cares and who really watches what you bet or how much you bet?It&#x27;s about common sense.  Take a month&#x27;s sample of games, heavy favorites, in every sport, and see how often -1500, -800 moneylines go down all the time.So you&#x27;re betting these heavy moneylines for big amounts and after several days of winning, you inevitably hit that big upset because the heavy favorite didn&#x27;t feel like showing up or there was a key injury combined with the fact that the other team decided to treat it as their Superbowl or whatever.Dude, it seems easy, like yeah I&#x27;ll just bet heavy or &#x27;&#x27;safe&#x27;&#x27; moneylines for large amounts and build a bankroll, and it may work for a short while but in the long run you will lose big.Heavy favorites go down all the time and often for no reason at all.  Days or maybe weeks of winning will be ruined by one or two heavy upsets.It&#x27;s the same thing as the martingale system, eventually you&#x27;ll hit that bad stretch...and all profits will be lost with one loss.

nature1970 · Answer

stay away from horses in no where races .a 1/5-9 favorite doesn&#x27;t come in money often enough to gain from the risk.

thorpe · Answer

Are you really asking what the downside is?

How about losing the bet?

Books would love it if your "friend" did this. There is a lot of juice on the big ML favorites. You will usually see

-2000

+1000

That is a ton of juice factored in.

jerzmade · Answer

The better way to attack this strategy is to do a latest of about 4-5 of those big heavy ML favs n do a parlay. If u win then roll it over to tomorrow&#x27;s set of 4-5 parlay. If u lose then u only lose one bet n eliminating so much exposure if ur betting these heavy favs w enormous exposure.

DUDE-I-TOLD-YOU · Answer

Horse racing is probably the worst sport for it! I remember posting in the HR forum about an interview I saw LIVE on TVG with Joe Talamo at Del Mar (maybe Santa Anita).  Anyway, he&#x27;s riding some 1-5 Graded Stakes winner, coming back from a layoff.  He tells Christina that the trainer&#x27;s instructions were to "NOT use the whip".  Sure enough, bolts from the gate...gains a nice comfortable lead...only to fade to last in the final stretch .Sure it happens.  Tons of other ways to make a race too.  But to hear it live, and think that any other animal being whipped isn&#x27;t going to run just a tad harder is insane.  Don&#x27;t watch as often, but it seems like more interviews are done AFTER the race now.  If you want a classic, here&#x27;s one from last year at Evangeline Downs.  No sound, but let&#x27;s just say 6 horses ran...and 3 of them were part of the fix!  LMAO  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wII4p6JuaYg

mrcash101 · Answer

so my suggestion would be get in touch with a professional not a handicapper but a professional a guy who plays a game then it moves 3 points in his favor and instead of playing the line just play the money line

DUDE-I-TOLD-YOU · Answer

I&#x27;m a parlay guy, though unpopular around here...but I probably bet 1/50th of a flat amount...maybe 1/20th if I like my chances!  LOLThe problem with compiling heavy faves, just like teasing to 10pts, or even trying to round-robbin is that the risk-to-reward is simply not worth it.  I would rather cap a handful of games and make a narrowed-down decision vs. seeking out the largest lines and assuming they&#x27;re "free squares".

RandyC726 · Answer

Losing one bet would wipe away at least a week of winning. This is stupid.

Kurshka · Answer

Let CG think he is getting a cut and fade him. Throw him a bone once in a while.

bizkilla · Answer

I think exposures the right word. You expose too much to gain so little. So you better be on point.

Years back I hit on a big ML Chargers @ Colts, then too just think I can pick up easy money I placed a wager at a time of day that an Australian tennis game was being played and layed 800 to win 100 on the best player on the planet, roger rederer. It lost. Now I've made some wagers since than that have been similar, because it seems like a sound investment. I mean name me an investment vehicle that returns 12.5%!in 3 hours.

nature1970 · Answer

college basketball about the only application this could be applied to with any sincere expectation of making a profit. however you have to wait till almost game time and apply this to exclusively division one play in headline games .... but betting Kentucky will defeat manhattan in the first round of the bracket could be become profitable as the fanatics I manhattan believe in fantasy anyway.

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