On March 22nd the Singapore-flagged tanker "Alpine Eternity" hits an Iranian oil rig in the Persian Gulf on the strait of hormuz.
Iranians demand the ship's operator pay for the damages. The ship instead leaves the area without resolving any issues, avoiding being seized by the Iranian naval guard.
Thursday the Alpine Eternity made its way back through the strait, same area, same cargo (oil), and this time was fired upon by Iranian gun boats after refusing to follow orders to reroute to Iranian waters. "When that didn't work, the Iranian boats tried to 'disable' the Apline Eternity, apparently by opening fire with maching guns directly at the ship," said one US official.
This comes two weeks after a Marshall Islands tanker was seized for "financial disputes," which forced US military involvement.
The Persian Gulf and Strait of Hormuz is where 30% of the world's seaborne energy shipments sail. And this is already tossing tinder on a fire created between major conflicts between Saudi and Iran over the Yemen conflict. And Israel has already said it was on high alert, and willing to engage conflict with Iran if threatened. And then of course Iran had its nuts snipped off when 2/3rd's of its centrifuges for enriching uranium had been shut down per deal with US, UN.
Israel and Saudi Arabia no doubt have no issues with risking allied relations with US to pursue conflict with its hated neighbor.
Could this be your Archduke Ferdinand moment for World Conflict?
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On March 22nd the Singapore-flagged tanker "Alpine Eternity" hits an Iranian oil rig in the Persian Gulf on the strait of hormuz.
Iranians demand the ship's operator pay for the damages. The ship instead leaves the area without resolving any issues, avoiding being seized by the Iranian naval guard.
Thursday the Alpine Eternity made its way back through the strait, same area, same cargo (oil), and this time was fired upon by Iranian gun boats after refusing to follow orders to reroute to Iranian waters. "When that didn't work, the Iranian boats tried to 'disable' the Apline Eternity, apparently by opening fire with maching guns directly at the ship," said one US official.
This comes two weeks after a Marshall Islands tanker was seized for "financial disputes," which forced US military involvement.
The Persian Gulf and Strait of Hormuz is where 30% of the world's seaborne energy shipments sail. And this is already tossing tinder on a fire created between major conflicts between Saudi and Iran over the Yemen conflict. And Israel has already said it was on high alert, and willing to engage conflict with Iran if threatened. And then of course Iran had its nuts snipped off when 2/3rd's of its centrifuges for enriching uranium had been shut down per deal with US, UN.
Israel and Saudi Arabia no doubt have no issues with risking allied relations with US to pursue conflict with its hated neighbor.
Could this be your Archduke Ferdinand moment for World Conflict?
The day that there aren't "conflicts in the Persian Gulf", or "Israel isn't on high alert", or "Israel & Saudi Arabia don't have issues" that's the day to be worried about.....
Isn't that one of the biblical prophecies for the end of days?
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This isn't shocking news.....
The day that there aren't "conflicts in the Persian Gulf", or "Israel isn't on high alert", or "Israel & Saudi Arabia don't have issues" that's the day to be worried about.....
Isn't that one of the biblical prophecies for the end of days?
"Israel and Saudi Arabia no doubt have no issues with risking allied relations with US to pursue conflict with its hated neighbor."
Says who?
Says anybody that watched the fallout of the nuclear negotiations with Iran. They are polar opposites on the decisions made. And with oil not so much a bargaining chip between SA and US--production becoming more dependable on home soil--there isn't so much dependency anymore. And Abdullah's death hasn't had any consequences----yet. Let's watch long term as Salman's regime goes about Yemen, oil and Iran.
And not sure why I should have to explain Israel either. Stemming back to Netanyahu speaking with Boehner and a joint session of Congress behind the Obama administration's back, to even more disagreement on the Iranian deal, to Netanyahu's assinine speech towards the Iranian gov't.
So, add this to the content above, and you can see why it is more feasible than not to say, IF world conflict erupted that Iran would be center stage as the first shot fired.
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Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:
"Israel and Saudi Arabia no doubt have no issues with risking allied relations with US to pursue conflict with its hated neighbor."
Says who?
Says anybody that watched the fallout of the nuclear negotiations with Iran. They are polar opposites on the decisions made. And with oil not so much a bargaining chip between SA and US--production becoming more dependable on home soil--there isn't so much dependency anymore. And Abdullah's death hasn't had any consequences----yet. Let's watch long term as Salman's regime goes about Yemen, oil and Iran.
And not sure why I should have to explain Israel either. Stemming back to Netanyahu speaking with Boehner and a joint session of Congress behind the Obama administration's back, to even more disagreement on the Iranian deal, to Netanyahu's assinine speech towards the Iranian gov't.
So, add this to the content above, and you can see why it is more feasible than not to say, IF world conflict erupted that Iran would be center stage as the first shot fired.
Says anybody that watched the fallout of the nuclear negotiations with Iran. They are polar opposites on the decisions made. And with oil not so much a bargaining chip between SA and US--production becoming more dependable on home soil--there isn't so much dependency anymore. And Abdullah's death hasn't had any consequences----yet. Let's watch long term as Salman's regime goes about Yemen, oil and Iran.
And not sure why I should have to explain Israel either. Stemming back to Netanyahu speaking with Boehner and a joint session of Congress behind the Obama administration's back, to even more disagreement on the Iranian deal, to Netanyahu's assinine speech towards the Iranian gov't.
So, add this to the content above, and you can see why it is more feasible than not to say, IF world conflict erupted that Iran would be center stage as the first shot fired.
You think the true relations between the US, Israel and Saudi Arabia are reported on by the mainstream media?
What happened during the negotiations that leads you to believe either country would risk allied relations with the US?
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Quote Originally Posted by TheDrizzle77:
Says anybody that watched the fallout of the nuclear negotiations with Iran. They are polar opposites on the decisions made. And with oil not so much a bargaining chip between SA and US--production becoming more dependable on home soil--there isn't so much dependency anymore. And Abdullah's death hasn't had any consequences----yet. Let's watch long term as Salman's regime goes about Yemen, oil and Iran.
And not sure why I should have to explain Israel either. Stemming back to Netanyahu speaking with Boehner and a joint session of Congress behind the Obama administration's back, to even more disagreement on the Iranian deal, to Netanyahu's assinine speech towards the Iranian gov't.
So, add this to the content above, and you can see why it is more feasible than not to say, IF world conflict erupted that Iran would be center stage as the first shot fired.
You think the true relations between the US, Israel and Saudi Arabia are reported on by the mainstream media?
What happened during the negotiations that leads you to believe either country would risk allied relations with the US?
In 2015, yes I suppose I am gullible enough to believe that, with even the average person's ability to gain information via social media, that political affairs can truly be reported accurately, or somewhere accurate on occasion by officials, sources, etc.
And this is all speculation, obviously. I have no deep throats telling me anything other than what I read at Huffington, BBC, Al Jazeera, etc, etc.
I just look at the situation in the strait as coincidental timing with conflict in Yemen and the nuclear deal all taking place in the past months. It has to be interesting for anybody paying attention to see what happens or escalates with the Iranians, Saudi's, Israeli's and commercial shipping through the crucial Strait of Hormuz.
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In 2015, yes I suppose I am gullible enough to believe that, with even the average person's ability to gain information via social media, that political affairs can truly be reported accurately, or somewhere accurate on occasion by officials, sources, etc.
And this is all speculation, obviously. I have no deep throats telling me anything other than what I read at Huffington, BBC, Al Jazeera, etc, etc.
I just look at the situation in the strait as coincidental timing with conflict in Yemen and the nuclear deal all taking place in the past months. It has to be interesting for anybody paying attention to see what happens or escalates with the Iranians, Saudi's, Israeli's and commercial shipping through the crucial Strait of Hormuz.
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