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    why do people live in tornado alley??

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    Posted: May. 24, 2011 - 7:36 PM ET #1

    first off, it's extremely sad watching the news and seeing all the missing people and children who have died as a result of the tornadoes in the Missouri. it's a horrible tragedy i hope i have never have to deal with.

    my question is why do people live in these areas if they're not prepared to deal with emergencies?

    if you live in an area that is prone to tornadoes, why do you not have a fully enclosed underground storm shelter? (which I'm reading is the only reliable form of shelter for F-4 AND F-5'S). 

    ok so not everybody lives in a house or can afford something like that. I get that. But what I don't understand is why people who don't have those luxuries choose to keep living there. Maybe they've lived there they're whole lives or like the city. I don't know, but doesn't it seem like they're playing roulette with their lives?? They must know because of where they live, at some point a big ass tornado is going to come, and without some underground bunker, there is always going to be a chance they get hit hard.

    Now I live in Ontario where I don't have any of these disasters. I've lived here all my life but if we got hit by natural disasters all the time, I would either move, make sure I had appropriate safety precautions, or make my peace that the price for living here may end up killing me and my family someday.

    So can someone please explain the rationale of all the people dying and suffering from these tornado disasters right now? Thanks. 
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    first off, it's extremely sad watching the news and seeing all the missing people and children who have died as a result of the tornadoes in the Missouri. it's a horrible tragedy i hope i have never have to deal with.

    my question is why do people live in these areas if they're not prepared to deal with emergencies?

    if you live in an area that is prone to tornadoes, why do you not have a fully enclosed underground storm shelter? (which I'm reading is the only reliable form of shelter for F-4 AND F-5'S). 

    ok so not everybody lives in a house or can afford something like that. I get that. But what I don't understand is why people who don't have those luxuries choose to keep living there. Maybe they've lived there they're whole lives or like the city. I don't know, but doesn't it seem like they're playing roulette with their lives?? They must know because of where they live, at some point a big ass tornado is going to come, and without some underground bunker, there is always going to be a chance they get hit hard.

    Now I live in Ontario where I don't have any of these disasters. I've lived here all my life but if we got hit by natural disasters all the time, I would either move, make sure I had appropriate safety precautions, or make my peace that the price for living here may end up killing me and my family someday.

    So can someone please explain the rationale of all the people dying and suffering from these tornado disasters right now? Thanks. 
     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2011 - 7:45 PM ET #2

    Why does someone live in Florida or near the east coast when there are hurricanes?
    Why do people live in California when there are earthquakes?
    Why do people live in Wyoming or Colorado where droughts have occurred?
    Why do people live in Hawaii where there are volcanoes?

    It's hard to find a spot to live in the US that isn't susceptible to a natural disaster. I would imagine for most people that these are the places they grew up and this is the place where all there family and friends are.
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    Why does someone live in Florida or near the east coast when there are hurricanes?
    Why do people live in California when there are earthquakes?
    Why do people live in Wyoming or Colorado where droughts have occurred?
    Why do people live in Hawaii where there are volcanoes?

    It's hard to find a spot to live in the US that isn't susceptible to a natural disaster. I would imagine for most people that these are the places they grew up and this is the place where all there family and friends are.
     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2011 - 7:47 PM ET #3

    By your rationale 500 million people who live in the 'ring of fire' should pack up and move immediately, all people living in coastal areas around the world should do the same as there is no protection from hurricanes or typhoons or tsunamis, 100 million people in tornado alley should simply go away. Maybe they can move to Ontario, I heard the cash giveaways are great.
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    By your rationale 500 million people who live in the 'ring of fire' should pack up and move immediately, all people living in coastal areas around the world should do the same as there is no protection from hurricanes or typhoons or tsunamis, 100 million people in tornado alley should simply go away. Maybe they can move to Ontario, I heard the cash giveaways are great.
     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2011 - 7:58 PM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by DTher85:

    Why does someone live in Florida or near the east coast when there are hurricanes?
    Why do people live in California when there are earthquakes?
    Why do people live in Wyoming or Colorado where droughts have occurred?
    Why do people live in Hawaii where there are volcanoes?

    It's hard to find a spot to live in the US that isn't susceptible to a natural disaster. I would imagine for most people that these are the places they grew up and this is the place where all there family and friends are.

    took the words right out of my mouth.

    relatively speaking, tornados are probably the least deadly natural disaster as they have a small area of effect. 

    man i cant believe anyone continues to live in japan, tsunamis are dangerous

    man, why would anyone live on the gulf coast. didnt you see what that hurricane did to new orleans?

    i honestly dont know why anyone lives in california. that san andreas fault is so big!

    enjoy living on the moon. thats the only place you wont find be susceptible to natural disasters


    now quit thinking like an eight year old


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    Quote Originally Posted by DTher85:

    Why does someone live in Florida or near the east coast when there are hurricanes?
    Why do people live in California when there are earthquakes?
    Why do people live in Wyoming or Colorado where droughts have occurred?
    Why do people live in Hawaii where there are volcanoes?

    It's hard to find a spot to live in the US that isn't susceptible to a natural disaster. I would imagine for most people that these are the places they grew up and this is the place where all there family and friends are.

    took the words right out of my mouth.

    relatively speaking, tornados are probably the least deadly natural disaster as they have a small area of effect. 

    man i cant believe anyone continues to live in japan, tsunamis are dangerous

    man, why would anyone live on the gulf coast. didnt you see what that hurricane did to new orleans?

    i honestly dont know why anyone lives in california. that san andreas fault is so big!

    enjoy living on the moon. thats the only place you wont find be susceptible to natural disasters


    now quit thinking like an eight year old


     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2011 - 7:59 PM ET #5

    i'm not saying everyone move. i'm saying the people who live in tornado alley who do not have a secure shelter are taking a chance with their lives. 

    Now as far as I know with tsunamis and earthquakes, there isn't too much you can do. but i would think it's different with tornadoes- if you have a secure underground shelter you're safe. I don't think it's that simple with other natural disasters.
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    i'm not saying everyone move. i'm saying the people who live in tornado alley who do not have a secure shelter are taking a chance with their lives. 

    Now as far as I know with tsunamis and earthquakes, there isn't too much you can do. but i would think it's different with tornadoes- if you have a secure underground shelter you're safe. I don't think it's that simple with other natural disasters.
     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2011 - 8:01 PM ET #6

    and i'm not saying they have no right to live there. i'm just saying if you live in those areas you must accept the risk that you could get wiped out.
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    and i'm not saying they have no right to live there. i'm just saying if you live in those areas you must accept the risk that you could get wiped out.
     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2011 - 8:09 PM ET #7

    There's probably more chance of being murdered or killed in a car accident than being killed in a natural disaster in some states
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    There's probably more chance of being murdered or killed in a car accident than being killed in a natural disaster in some states
     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2011 - 8:13 PM ET #8

    im not sure what you are arguing here. you are saying the people who live in places that are susceptible to tsunamis and earthquakes shouldnt move because there isnt 'too much you can do" when one hits? reasonable logic would suggest that these people are in fact more stupid because they live in a place with less means of protection from their respective natural disaster....yet you get onto the people that deal with probably the least lethal natural disaster in the world for not building a shelter? 
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    im not sure what you are arguing here. you are saying the people who live in places that are susceptible to tsunamis and earthquakes shouldnt move because there isnt 'too much you can do" when one hits? reasonable logic would suggest that these people are in fact more stupid because they live in a place with less means of protection from their respective natural disaster....yet you get onto the people that deal with probably the least lethal natural disaster in the world for not building a shelter? 
     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2011 - 8:23 PM ET #9

    AUandGBfan,

    I guess what I'm arguing is it seems like it's easier to protect yourself against tornadoes than it is tsunamis and earthquakes. maybe it's not, that's just the feeling i get.

    Because you're right, the millions of people along the coast line could get hit by a tsnunami tomorrow, and there isn't much they could do about it except evacuate, like Japan.

    My point is it seems to me if you have those underground shelters that can withstand an F-5 tornadoes, you're pretty safe. I don't think there's anything comparable to that that with earthquakes and tsunamis. an underground bunker or safe room wouldn't really help you there.
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    AUandGBfan,

    I guess what I'm arguing is it seems like it's easier to protect yourself against tornadoes than it is tsunamis and earthquakes. maybe it's not, that's just the feeling i get.

    Because you're right, the millions of people along the coast line could get hit by a tsnunami tomorrow, and there isn't much they could do about it except evacuate, like Japan.

    My point is it seems to me if you have those underground shelters that can withstand an F-5 tornadoes, you're pretty safe. I don't think there's anything comparable to that that with earthquakes and tsunamis. an underground bunker or safe room wouldn't really help you there.
     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2011 - 8:52 PM ET #10

    if govt would stop subsiding the system that allows for ppl to both be indemnified and achieve profit by natural disasters from their locations. 
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    if govt would stop subsiding the system that allows for ppl to both be indemnified and achieve profit by natural disasters from their locations. 
     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2011 - 8:57 PM ET #11

    why do people live within 25 miles of a crime laden ghetto and deal with potential home invasions for crack/meth money?
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    why do people live within 25 miles of a crime laden ghetto and deal with potential home invasions for crack/meth money?
     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2011 - 9:02 PM ET #12

    drJ,

    haha that's a great point! i guess it does come down to money
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    haha that's a great point! i guess it does come down to money
     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2011 - 9:26 PM ET #13

    It's what you've grown up with for alot of people like myself.  I lived in NE Kansas for 32 years and I only personally seen one tornado.  Got chased to the basement a few times just in case though.
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    It's what you've grown up with for alot of people like myself.  I lived in NE Kansas for 32 years and I only personally seen one tornado.  Got chased to the basement a few times just in case though.
     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2011 - 10:09 PM ET #14

    Yeah I grew up with it as well living in OKC, yet I have never seen one myself.  But what are you going to do, you know?  I mean, you grow up in a part of the country, have family and friends there, established a career or own a business... are we going to move b/c the area is prone to tornadoes?  I'm in Dallas now, and a potentially deadly system just made its way across the DFW metroplex literally like 5-10 minutes ago.  Does everybody in Dallas and Fort Worth need to get out of dodge?

    And as far as the people in Tuscaloosa that died, I don't think they were really prepared.  Not for sure, but I don't think that part of the country is commonly hit by major tornadoes.  In 1999, I think OKC got hit with one of the strongest tornadoes in history, yet not nearly as many people perished as in Bama or Joplin.  I'm pretty sure it's b/c we were prepared and lots of people Do have storm shelters.  Not sure how prepared they were in Joplin; doesn't seem like they were though.

      
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    Yeah I grew up with it as well living in OKC, yet I have never seen one myself.  But what are you going to do, you know?  I mean, you grow up in a part of the country, have family and friends there, established a career or own a business... are we going to move b/c the area is prone to tornadoes?  I'm in Dallas now, and a potentially deadly system just made its way across the DFW metroplex literally like 5-10 minutes ago.  Does everybody in Dallas and Fort Worth need to get out of dodge?

    And as far as the people in Tuscaloosa that died, I don't think they were really prepared.  Not for sure, but I don't think that part of the country is commonly hit by major tornadoes.  In 1999, I think OKC got hit with one of the strongest tornadoes in history, yet not nearly as many people perished as in Bama or Joplin.  I'm pretty sure it's b/c we were prepared and lots of people Do have storm shelters.  Not sure how prepared they were in Joplin; doesn't seem like they were though.

      
     
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    Posted: May. 24, 2011 - 10:12 PM ET #15

    Glad to see you made it safe through the DFW one.  I would have thought the people in Joplin would be ready, but I also heard that the wind was so strong they couldn't hear the sirens.  I can see Alabama not being ready.  I would hate to see what it would be like here in Houston.  We have more time to run from the hurricanes.
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    Glad to see you made it safe through the DFW one.  I would have thought the people in Joplin would be ready, but I also heard that the wind was so strong they couldn't hear the sirens.  I can see Alabama not being ready.  I would hate to see what it would be like here in Houston.  We have more time to run from the hurricanes.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by misfit_aka:

    if govt would stop subsiding the system that allows for ppl to both be indemnified and achieve profit by natural disasters from their locations. 



    I think your sphincter is cutting off your air supply causing you to speak nonsense...
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    if govt would stop subsiding the system that allows for ppl to both be indemnified and achieve profit by natural disasters from their locations. 



    I think your sphincter is cutting off your air supply causing you to speak nonsense...
     
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    I think your sphincter is cutting off your air supply causing you to speak nonsense...

    not so much. when the imperial palace opened back up in biloxi, ms after katrina, it was the first casino back open. me and my buddies decided to head down there to see its grand reopening and we were appalled by what we saw down there. people were taking their entire fema checks to the cages, the casinos were cashing them, and they were gambling away their federal aid money. it was a madhouse. there are people out there that take advantage of the system
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    I think your sphincter is cutting off your air supply causing you to speak nonsense...

    not so much. when the imperial palace opened back up in biloxi, ms after katrina, it was the first casino back open. me and my buddies decided to head down there to see its grand reopening and we were appalled by what we saw down there. people were taking their entire fema checks to the cages, the casinos were cashing them, and they were gambling away their federal aid money. it was a madhouse. there are people out there that take advantage of the system
     
     
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    odds are so low that a tornado hits your house.....
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