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    Winning too many wagers with online sportsbooks???

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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2019 - 3:54 PM ET #1

    If you win too often, or consistently over time, is there a point where

    an online sportsbooks (William-Hill/Caesars) will no longer take your action.

     

     

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    If you win too often, or consistently over time, is there a point where

    an online sportsbooks (William-Hill/Caesars) will no longer take your action.

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryche:

    If you win too often, or consistently over time, is there a point where an online sportsbooks (William-Hill/Caesars) will no longer take your action.

    It's really really unlikely. They have so many losers betting that you will likely go unnoticed. At the end of the day, they will keep accepting your wagers because you will eventually fall off and lose a lot 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryche:

    If you win too often, or consistently over time, is there a point where an online sportsbooks (William-Hill/Caesars) will no longer take your action.

    It's really really unlikely. They have so many losers betting that you will likely go unnoticed. At the end of the day, they will keep accepting your wagers because you will eventually fall off and lose a lot 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 18, 2019 - 11:24 PM ET #3

    Thanks Phillip. I appreciate your response.

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    Thanks Phillip. I appreciate your response.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 20, 2019 - 12:22 PM ET #4

    Not too far off but the man is speaking some truth. It kinda takes a while to get to it but nonetheless, a good nugget of information to consider.

    Watch 0:33 - 4:09..

    "Schrödinger's bet." A bet that loses when you bet it but wins when you DON'T bet it...
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    Not too far off but the man is speaking some truth. It kinda takes a while to get to it but nonetheless, a good nugget of information to consider.

    Watch 0:33 - 4:09..

     
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    Posted: Oct. 23, 2019 - 5:51 PM ET #5

    I don't know about William Hill, but most online books will either ban you or reduce your max wager to a very small amount.  If you read the fine print on the rules, they say they will do this.  Online books aren't regulated and they hold all the  cards,,,
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    I don't know about William Hill, but most online books will either ban you or reduce your max wager to a very small amount.  If you read the fine print on the rules, they say they will do this.  Online books aren't regulated and they hold all the  cards,,,
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thorpe:

    I don't know about William Hill, but most online books will either ban you or reduce your max wager to a very small amount.  If you read the fine print on the rules, they say they will do this.  Online books aren't regulated and they hold all the  cards,,,

     

    this is a good problem to have... just switch books... 

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    Quote Originally Posted by thorpe:

    I don't know about William Hill, but most online books will either ban you or reduce your max wager to a very small amount.  If you read the fine print on the rules, they say they will do this.  Online books aren't regulated and they hold all the  cards,,,

     

    this is a good problem to have... just switch books... 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 28, 2019 - 5:15 PM ET #7

    Bro, whoever tells you that they won´t limit you is a loser in this game and has never won. 

    They mainly check history... This is my history: 

    I started with Bet365. All my experience was gained there. I probably lost 5k. 1.5 years ago I decided to quit betting bullshit spots and became more selective. I won 30k in 365 and I got severely limited. I won maybe 3k more and then my limits were reduced to complete shit where I could no longer bet (Im talking less than $20 per bet). 

    In other sites I have been banned way faster. The reason behind it is... I can proudly say that I am a winning bettor. And if you just open an account and start betting 500+ per bet and show a ROI of 5%, it is quite easy to figure out you are not the type of action that the book wants. 

    So... since you ahve never been limited I am sure you are not winning sustainably yet. But you may get there. Once you do, you will need to find the sharp sportsbooks, which may be harder to beat but will not restrict you. There are a very few of them out there. 

    BOL and I hope you join the winning club soon. Keep it up, it is possible and I am a motherfucking living example of that!

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    Bro, whoever tells you that they won´t limit you is a loser in this game and has never won. 

    They mainly check history... This is my history: 

    I started with Bet365. All my experience was gained there. I probably lost 5k. 1.5 years ago I decided to quit betting bullshit spots and became more selective. I won 30k in 365 and I got severely limited. I won maybe 3k more and then my limits were reduced to complete shit where I could no longer bet (Im talking less than $20 per bet). 

    In other sites I have been banned way faster. The reason behind it is... I can proudly say that I am a winning bettor. And if you just open an account and start betting 500+ per bet and show a ROI of 5%, it is quite easy to figure out you are not the type of action that the book wants. 

    So... since you ahve never been limited I am sure you are not winning sustainably yet. But you may get there. Once you do, you will need to find the sharp sportsbooks, which may be harder to beat but will not restrict you. There are a very few of them out there. 

    BOL and I hope you join the winning club soon. Keep it up, it is possible and I am a motherfucking living example of that!

     
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    Posted: Oct. 28, 2019 - 10:07 PM ET #8

    How long did it take them to bust you, zebra? 

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    How long did it take them to bust you, zebra? 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 13, 2019 - 5:30 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryche:

    If you win too often, or consistently over time, is there a point where an online sportsbooks (William-Hill/Caesars) will no longer take your action.
     

    I cannot confirm this, but I have heard of books dual-lining accounts. Dual-lining if you aren't familiar is giving different account types separate lines based on wagering behavior. 

    But to answer the direct question, you would have to be winning hundreds of thousands of dollars probably before they would take notice with significant volume.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryche:

    If you win too often, or consistently over time, is there a point where an online sportsbooks (William-Hill/Caesars) will no longer take your action.
     

    I cannot confirm this, but I have heard of books dual-lining accounts. Dual-lining if you aren't familiar is giving different account types separate lines based on wagering behavior. 

    But to answer the direct question, you would have to be winning hundreds of thousands of dollars probably before they would take notice with significant volume.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2019 - 3:33 PM ET #10

    I was with a bullsh*t book 1 year(BetUS) and early in the NFL season they were putting up a few Favorites that really should have been Dogs.I was up about 8k and then they started giving me a Sucker Line.It was too early to restrict me but I confronted a mgr about the adjusted line and he admitted it and said I was "too good" and he can give me any line he wanted. Some places sweat every $ and you are expected to lose and they don't even like it if you take your time doing it (5dimes).Some places will just freeze you out.A friend of mine living in Las Vegas was betting off-shore into some good lines and Heritage said that he was a "professional" and WIPED out his account.Who you going to call? These places sweat every penny.

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    I was with a bullsh*t book 1 year(BetUS) and early in the NFL season they were putting up a few Favorites that really should have been Dogs.I was up about 8k and then they started giving me a Sucker Line.It was too early to restrict me but I confronted a mgr about the adjusted line and he admitted it and said I was "too good" and he can give me any line he wanted. Some places sweat every $ and you are expected to lose and they don't even like it if you take your time doing it (5dimes).Some places will just freeze you out.A friend of mine living in Las Vegas was betting off-shore into some good lines and Heritage said that he was a "professional" and WIPED out his account.Who you going to call? These places sweat every penny.

     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 16, 2019 - 6:55 PM ET #11

    When a book assigns risk to a player at a SB for purposes of limiting or banishing....

    There is really only one factor they consider:

    How often does that bettor beat the closing line combined with the variance of the wager size

    Period.  Its not how much you win.  It is how often you beat the closing line, and if you are a flat bettor.  They hate flat bettors that beat the closing line.

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    When a book assigns risk to a player at a SB for purposes of limiting or banishing....

    There is really only one factor they consider:

    How often does that bettor beat the closing line combined with the variance of the wager size

    Period.  Its not how much you win.  It is how often you beat the closing line, and if you are a flat bettor.  They hate flat bettors that beat the closing line.

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