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    BELMONT/SANTA ANITA 5/11

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    Posted: May. 11, 2017 - 1:00 PM ET #1

    Not feeling as good about today's card as yesterday. A lot of really tricky races with little form and past performances to go off. I'll post Santa Anita plays a little later after scratches and changes..

    GL to all!

    race 2: 5 - RICHMOND STREET. My main concern with this pick is Mott being such a streaky trainer and his horses not running well thus far at the meet, but I feel like this one couldve made a good deal of improvement over the winter. This was a process of elimination pick for me: Marchant is simply a cut below. Alasaal although lone speed and a threat, just seems to be what he is, and he looks to me of a horse that's destined for 2nd or 3rd. I agree that Snag should run better going shorter, as that 1 1/2 mile was too far, but I dont really trust him to win the race especially as the favorite. That figure out of the last is inflated as well. Silver Beach looks to need one, as this is a tough distance to get the win off this long of a layoff and that little experience. St Louie wouldnt surprise me at all to outrun his odds, as there are layoff concerns for some and distance concerns for others, but he also has never gone this far before and is another that should fit great underneath. It leaves me thinking Mott has spotted this horse well to go forward on his 4yo campaign, and if he is ready to run off the layoff and improves, should be well good enough to get the job done here. My second choice at a nice price is definitely ST LOUIE, who I expect to be more forward today and is in the sharpest form of all currently. I can probably count on one hand how many times I've ever done this, but St. Louie seems like a perfect place/show bet to make some coin, or even a ladder bet across the board.

    race 4: 10 - OUTRAGEOUS BET/ 6 - ELBOW ROOM. This is one of those head scratching races that looks destined for a big price. Therefore, I have two ways to approach it; the logical way with Outrageous Bet, who looked to never really be comfortable as the heavy 6/5 favorite and should enjoy this cutback to 7f on the widener. The other way is with a big price shot. The horses that have turf experience haven't shown much, and it looks like a high 50's to low 60's beyer figure is all it'll take to win this one. That being said, Elbow Room steps on the turf for the first time, and has a sneaky little bit of turf ped including a 75k purchase price on this light-on-paper sire/dam which has to suggest this 3yo gelding showed some ability at the sales. A lot of unknown of course, but these are the kind of races that can render $50+ horses and this would be my best guess at that. *sneaky late note when observing the changes.. the 5 NJORD adds blinkers (not noted in pp's) for first start under Leah Gyarmati. something to consider as well..*

    race 5: 6 - GAME GIRL. Another turf route where there sure aren't any superstars signed on. This low level claimer features a small field of horses without much current form. That being said, I have to trust Linda Rice cherry picked this spot to return GAME GIRL to the turf. I'm struggling to find the horse that could show any ferocity down the stretch, and even if the 5 goes crazy for the lead, I think Game Girl can sit a comfortable second and still get first run at everyone else. The lack of works out of a trainer like Linda Rice is concerning, but I just don't like anyone else enough. Maybe back class re-surfaces for Resilient One or Theresas Candyrose off the claim for the lethal Rudy Rodriguez, but my best bet here is the favorite, whom people should shy away from enough because of form/layoff to get a decent 2/1 price for the most likely winner. 

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    Not feeling as good about today's card as yesterday. A lot of really tricky races with little form and past performances to go off. I'll post Santa Anita plays a little later after scratches and changes..

    GL to all!

    race 2: 5 - RICHMOND STREET. My main concern with this pick is Mott being such a streaky trainer and his horses not running well thus far at the meet, but I feel like this one couldve made a good deal of improvement over the winter. This was a process of elimination pick for me: Marchant is simply a cut below. Alasaal although lone speed and a threat, just seems to be what he is, and he looks to me of a horse that's destined for 2nd or 3rd. I agree that Snag should run better going shorter, as that 1 1/2 mile was too far, but I dont really trust him to win the race especially as the favorite. That figure out of the last is inflated as well. Silver Beach looks to need one, as this is a tough distance to get the win off this long of a layoff and that little experience. St Louie wouldnt surprise me at all to outrun his odds, as there are layoff concerns for some and distance concerns for others, but he also has never gone this far before and is another that should fit great underneath. It leaves me thinking Mott has spotted this horse well to go forward on his 4yo campaign, and if he is ready to run off the layoff and improves, should be well good enough to get the job done here. My second choice at a nice price is definitely ST LOUIE, who I expect to be more forward today and is in the sharpest form of all currently. I can probably count on one hand how many times I've ever done this, but St. Louie seems like a perfect place/show bet to make some coin, or even a ladder bet across the board.

    race 4: 10 - OUTRAGEOUS BET/ 6 - ELBOW ROOM. This is one of those head scratching races that looks destined for a big price. Therefore, I have two ways to approach it; the logical way with Outrageous Bet, who looked to never really be comfortable as the heavy 6/5 favorite and should enjoy this cutback to 7f on the widener. The other way is with a big price shot. The horses that have turf experience haven't shown much, and it looks like a high 50's to low 60's beyer figure is all it'll take to win this one. That being said, Elbow Room steps on the turf for the first time, and has a sneaky little bit of turf ped including a 75k purchase price on this light-on-paper sire/dam which has to suggest this 3yo gelding showed some ability at the sales. A lot of unknown of course, but these are the kind of races that can render $50+ horses and this would be my best guess at that. *sneaky late note when observing the changes.. the 5 NJORD adds blinkers (not noted in pp's) for first start under Leah Gyarmati. something to consider as well..*

    race 5: 6 - GAME GIRL. Another turf route where there sure aren't any superstars signed on. This low level claimer features a small field of horses without much current form. That being said, I have to trust Linda Rice cherry picked this spot to return GAME GIRL to the turf. I'm struggling to find the horse that could show any ferocity down the stretch, and even if the 5 goes crazy for the lead, I think Game Girl can sit a comfortable second and still get first run at everyone else. The lack of works out of a trainer like Linda Rice is concerning, but I just don't like anyone else enough. Maybe back class re-surfaces for Resilient One or Theresas Candyrose off the claim for the lethal Rudy Rodriguez, but my best bet here is the favorite, whom people should shy away from enough because of form/layoff to get a decent 2/1 price for the most likely winner. 

     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2017 - 1:00 PM ET #2

    race 6: 6 - TOGA CHALLENGER. This one looks to be a two horse race with Rudy and Pletcher, and I like the 6 better. I fear the Gulfstream race where Driven by Thunder looked effortless in his win was a little dressed up, and against Fla bred maidens. Where Toga Challenger had to shift to the outside from the rail and seemed unfocused down the stretch drifting about against winners. I can definitely see the blinkers helping a good deal as well as the outside post. The 2 scratching hurts a bit, but there still seems to be enough pace in here to run at, and the cutback to 6.5f should help. Also, I expect Driven by Thunder to take his fair share of tote support, so you should see close to if not all of the 2/1ml.

    race 7: 4 - PIQUET. The favorite CATCH YOUR DREAMS might have found a weak enough field to beat off a 9 month layoff, and took a lot of support at 5/2 first out in Saratoga which is sign of ability considering her lousy pedigree. In a field like this I'd rather take a poke somewhere else while using the 5 defensively, and my choice is the first time starter PIQUET. I've noticed that Castellano very rarely takes first timer rides that arent super live, so I expect this one to run a competitive race. By no means is this a strong opinion, so tread carefully.

    race 8: 6 - BIG ROCK. Seems like a 2 horse race with Loose on the Town, who put in a great performance at Keeneland off the layoff to wire the field convincingly with first time lasix. But I'd rather take BIG ROCK who was torched in a speed duel on a good turf, which hadn't produced those kind of times to my recollection all meet besides when playing very fast and firm. The Clement barn is going great right now, and although Lynch is great with these lightly raced horses, especially turf sprinters, I just feel that Big Rock has a bit more foundation to him and I'd rather trust him second off the winter break than trust Loose on the Town to repeat that effort.

    Overall, I simply don't LOVE any races today, and nothing stands out to me as a Grade A wager. There is no chance I'll repeat my efforts today that I had yesterday, as many of my stronger leans came through and the ROI was very strong, especially if playing exotics and sequences. 

    GRADE B BETS:
    RACE 2: WIN/PLACE - 5 - RICHMOND STREET. 
                 PLACE/SHOW - 6 - ST. LOUIE. 
                 EXACTA: 5/2,4,6
    RACE 6: WIN - 6 - TOGA CHALLENGER
    RACE 8: WIN - 6 - BIG ROCK

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    race 6: 6 - TOGA CHALLENGER. This one looks to be a two horse race with Rudy and Pletcher, and I like the 6 better. I fear the Gulfstream race where Driven by Thunder looked effortless in his win was a little dressed up, and against Fla bred maidens. Where Toga Challenger had to shift to the outside from the rail and seemed unfocused down the stretch drifting about against winners. I can definitely see the blinkers helping a good deal as well as the outside post. The 2 scratching hurts a bit, but there still seems to be enough pace in here to run at, and the cutback to 6.5f should help. Also, I expect Driven by Thunder to take his fair share of tote support, so you should see close to if not all of the 2/1ml.

    race 7: 4 - PIQUET. The favorite CATCH YOUR DREAMS might have found a weak enough field to beat off a 9 month layoff, and took a lot of support at 5/2 first out in Saratoga which is sign of ability considering her lousy pedigree. In a field like this I'd rather take a poke somewhere else while using the 5 defensively, and my choice is the first time starter PIQUET. I've noticed that Castellano very rarely takes first timer rides that arent super live, so I expect this one to run a competitive race. By no means is this a strong opinion, so tread carefully.

    race 8: 6 - BIG ROCK. Seems like a 2 horse race with Loose on the Town, who put in a great performance at Keeneland off the layoff to wire the field convincingly with first time lasix. But I'd rather take BIG ROCK who was torched in a speed duel on a good turf, which hadn't produced those kind of times to my recollection all meet besides when playing very fast and firm. The Clement barn is going great right now, and although Lynch is great with these lightly raced horses, especially turf sprinters, I just feel that Big Rock has a bit more foundation to him and I'd rather trust him second off the winter break than trust Loose on the Town to repeat that effort.

    Overall, I simply don't LOVE any races today, and nothing stands out to me as a Grade A wager. There is no chance I'll repeat my efforts today that I had yesterday, as many of my stronger leans came through and the ROI was very strong, especially if playing exotics and sequences. 

    GRADE B BETS:
    RACE 2: WIN/PLACE - 5 - RICHMOND STREET. 
                 PLACE/SHOW - 6 - ST. LOUIE. 
                 EXACTA: 5/2,4,6
    RACE 6: WIN - 6 - TOGA CHALLENGER
    RACE 8: WIN - 6 - BIG ROCK

     
     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2017 - 2:17 PM ET #3

    SANTA ANITA 5/11

    RACE 1: 7 - PELLUCID. Outside post and second off effort with a clean trip should do the trick. I expect a much improved effort with a start under her belt with lasix and blinkers off. Her trip was disastrous in last. Probably an even money-ish price but where is the speed to challenge? and if a lack of speed whose running her down? Other top options if beating the favorite are 3 and 4.

    RACE 2: 5 - SCATHING. In a junky race like this, I'll take the controlling speed. Seems to be better at a mile, and is probably the only horse in the race eligible to improve. Once again, a short price though.

    RACE 5: 5 - AOTEAROA. D'amato is been scorching hot lately, particularly on turf. This is his first effort off the claim and the easiest spot he's seen in quite some time. Has worked plenty since for this return, and if anyone can get this one back in the winners circle its D'amato. Should sit a favorable stalking trip near the lead. My second choice would be the 1 Fueled by Bourbon, who gives a second shot at the downhill since the Spawr claim and adds blinkers for the first time. If the equipment change works wonders, this one could def be the winner. Tricky little race here.

    RACE 7: 4 - NARDO. I think this one could have a nice tactical advantage here back with Puype and Prat. This is his preferred distance, and 2-3 at it career. If you toss the golden gate race, this one's numbers are competitive with this bunch. Just seems like the right angle to take Puype who is a very sneaky, timely trainer. I dont trust Jimmy Bouncer to wire at 6.5f. Street Fighter's last effort was impressive but I'm afraid it could be dressed up and I expect the world to be on him. The 3,5,7 are all off extended layoffs and are too tough to trust here. The 8 looks a cut below. The 6 has a cutback angle to go with and is an experienced winner, but he is 8, and it is a tougher bunch than his second place last out race. Like the sharp short works for the turnback, but maybe underneath is the better play.

    RACE 8: 8 - JEREMY'S LEGACY. O'neill not having a great meet thus far but this one looks like with the blinkers on and eligibility to improve he could be much the best. He's simply been competitive facing much better and I like the idea to cut back to the downhill sprint and has a nice outside post to sit a stalking trip. LEVELER could loom a threat off the layoff for D'amato who is impossible to discount lately. STURDY ONE is also is sharp form and re-claimed by the Kruljac's and is difficult to ignore. At the end of the day although 1-15 I think the blinkers on is what the doctor ordered and the 8 should get there first. I dont see this being a really short price either. The top 4 contenders are all pretty close, and I expect a good chunk of the 5/2ml. 

    Very chalky picks, but on a Thursday Santa Anita card with short fields lacking competition there really isn't any other way to go besides realized that there's a few potential winners and you just have to pick the right one (and deal with the fact they most of the time are gonna take the sharp late money).

    GRADE B WAGERS:

    RACE 1: WIN - 7 - PELLUCID (even money or better)

    RACE 7: WIN/PLACE - 4 - NARDO

    RACE 8: WIN - 8 - JEREMY'S LEGACY (3/2 or better)

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    SANTA ANITA 5/11

    RACE 1: 7 - PELLUCID. Outside post and second off effort with a clean trip should do the trick. I expect a much improved effort with a start under her belt with lasix and blinkers off. Her trip was disastrous in last. Probably an even money-ish price but where is the speed to challenge? and if a lack of speed whose running her down? Other top options if beating the favorite are 3 and 4.

    RACE 2: 5 - SCATHING. In a junky race like this, I'll take the controlling speed. Seems to be better at a mile, and is probably the only horse in the race eligible to improve. Once again, a short price though.

    RACE 5: 5 - AOTEAROA. D'amato is been scorching hot lately, particularly on turf. This is his first effort off the claim and the easiest spot he's seen in quite some time. Has worked plenty since for this return, and if anyone can get this one back in the winners circle its D'amato. Should sit a favorable stalking trip near the lead. My second choice would be the 1 Fueled by Bourbon, who gives a second shot at the downhill since the Spawr claim and adds blinkers for the first time. If the equipment change works wonders, this one could def be the winner. Tricky little race here.

    RACE 7: 4 - NARDO. I think this one could have a nice tactical advantage here back with Puype and Prat. This is his preferred distance, and 2-3 at it career. If you toss the golden gate race, this one's numbers are competitive with this bunch. Just seems like the right angle to take Puype who is a very sneaky, timely trainer. I dont trust Jimmy Bouncer to wire at 6.5f. Street Fighter's last effort was impressive but I'm afraid it could be dressed up and I expect the world to be on him. The 3,5,7 are all off extended layoffs and are too tough to trust here. The 8 looks a cut below. The 6 has a cutback angle to go with and is an experienced winner, but he is 8, and it is a tougher bunch than his second place last out race. Like the sharp short works for the turnback, but maybe underneath is the better play.

    RACE 8: 8 - JEREMY'S LEGACY. O'neill not having a great meet thus far but this one looks like with the blinkers on and eligibility to improve he could be much the best. He's simply been competitive facing much better and I like the idea to cut back to the downhill sprint and has a nice outside post to sit a stalking trip. LEVELER could loom a threat off the layoff for D'amato who is impossible to discount lately. STURDY ONE is also is sharp form and re-claimed by the Kruljac's and is difficult to ignore. At the end of the day although 1-15 I think the blinkers on is what the doctor ordered and the 8 should get there first. I dont see this being a really short price either. The top 4 contenders are all pretty close, and I expect a good chunk of the 5/2ml. 

    Very chalky picks, but on a Thursday Santa Anita card with short fields lacking competition there really isn't any other way to go besides realized that there's a few potential winners and you just have to pick the right one (and deal with the fact they most of the time are gonna take the sharp late money).

    GRADE B WAGERS:

    RACE 1: WIN - 7 - PELLUCID (even money or better)

    RACE 7: WIN/PLACE - 4 - NARDO

    RACE 8: WIN - 8 - JEREMY'S LEGACY (3/2 or better)

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