Monster Card – deep and big fields and tons of money in the pools so if you can find the gems could be in for a big score or two.I playing Win bets on every race and have a few bombs in there. Playing some exactas, multi race stuff, and have some prices involved. Never know—risking close to 20% of my wagering account so would love to pop one. $260 places in Win bets and $446 on exotics
Race 1- Many well-meant 2 yr olds in this race and could see one or two of these in the big dance May 2017.But 6 furlongs in Aug is a much different game and I’m hoping the expensive ones need a race. Playing $20 on #10 Mo Town at 8-1 m/l to win--Uncle Mo firster and Dutrow has been working him fast for the last month. Keeneland Sept 2015 sale fetched 200k so could a runner. Also—if any horses get scratched and #11 Factor of War draws in at 20-1 m/l he is worth a win bet also as he lost all chance in career debut at the start as was very expensive for that sire.
Race 2- Playing $20 Win on #3 Patterson Cross off the layoff for Mott at 15-1m/l--in career debut he hesitated at start and closed some late after a .50 opening half mile at Gulfstream and that’s hard to do on the Gulfstream turf especially back in Feb this year. Got steady works for return and fired a bullet from 44 runners on Tuesday.$10 exacta box 1-3 Cost $20 #1 Three Perfections is backup Win play if #3 gets scratched-- #1 is 12-1 who ran wide all race but well in debut when dismissed at 40-1 odds against many of these in this one.
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Monster Card – deep and big fields and tons of money in the pools so if you can find the gems could be in for a big score or two.I playing Win bets on every race and have a few bombs in there. Playing some exactas, multi race stuff, and have some prices involved. Never know—risking close to 20% of my wagering account so would love to pop one. $260 places in Win bets and $446 on exotics
Race 1- Many well-meant 2 yr olds in this race and could see one or two of these in the big dance May 2017.But 6 furlongs in Aug is a much different game and I’m hoping the expensive ones need a race. Playing $20 on #10 Mo Town at 8-1 m/l to win--Uncle Mo firster and Dutrow has been working him fast for the last month. Keeneland Sept 2015 sale fetched 200k so could a runner. Also—if any horses get scratched and #11 Factor of War draws in at 20-1 m/l he is worth a win bet also as he lost all chance in career debut at the start as was very expensive for that sire.
Race 2- Playing $20 Win on #3 Patterson Cross off the layoff for Mott at 15-1m/l--in career debut he hesitated at start and closed some late after a .50 opening half mile at Gulfstream and that’s hard to do on the Gulfstream turf especially back in Feb this year. Got steady works for return and fired a bullet from 44 runners on Tuesday.$10 exacta box 1-3 Cost $20 #1 Three Perfections is backup Win play if #3 gets scratched-- #1 is 12-1 who ran wide all race but well in debut when dismissed at 40-1 odds against many of these in this one.
Race 3- AOC at 6.5 furlongs for three and up—never know with these type races and I always look for horses with recent races and try to beat the comebackers with low odds and back class you normally see in these type races. There are a few of those in here for sure so the recent runners will be decent prices. I’ll play $20 to Win #6 Its All Relevant at 6-1 m/l and he drops down a bit after trying hard in the grade 2 Amsterdam at the same trip. Should be forwardly placed right from the start and distance not a problem—good draw there isn’t much early pace in this one so may wire them. Backup horse is #1-1a and they are similar type contenders at 6-1. I will start a $1 Pk 3 in race 3 using both--1-1a, 6/1,3,5,8,10,11/6,7,8,10 Cost is $48
Race 4- Really wide open turf race so I’ll play an absolute bomb. $20 Win on #11 Wedding Dress who was a solid 2 yr old turf filly raced in a stake last October and at Gulfstream in a grade 2 this February and raced ok in each but didn’t factor against some top turf fillys. Came back last month at Toga and got a horrible start and was rank. Will be overlooked and worth a bet 2nd start off the layoff.
Race 5- Turf route going 1 and 3/8th and doesn’t look to be any world beaters in this one. The best looking 3 yr old in the race looks to be the #6 but odds wont warrant a Win bet. So $20 Win bet goes to the filly against the boys #12 Havana Moon who gets Johnny V and Lasix for first time after racing ok in her last two US races. Should be nice price and I’ll play a $2 exacta box 6,7,8,10 Cost $48
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Race 3- AOC at 6.5 furlongs for three and up—never know with these type races and I always look for horses with recent races and try to beat the comebackers with low odds and back class you normally see in these type races. There are a few of those in here for sure so the recent runners will be decent prices. I’ll play $20 to Win #6 Its All Relevant at 6-1 m/l and he drops down a bit after trying hard in the grade 2 Amsterdam at the same trip. Should be forwardly placed right from the start and distance not a problem—good draw there isn’t much early pace in this one so may wire them. Backup horse is #1-1a and they are similar type contenders at 6-1. I will start a $1 Pk 3 in race 3 using both--1-1a, 6/1,3,5,8,10,11/6,7,8,10 Cost is $48
Race 4- Really wide open turf race so I’ll play an absolute bomb. $20 Win on #11 Wedding Dress who was a solid 2 yr old turf filly raced in a stake last October and at Gulfstream in a grade 2 this February and raced ok in each but didn’t factor against some top turf fillys. Came back last month at Toga and got a horrible start and was rank. Will be overlooked and worth a bet 2nd start off the layoff.
Race 5- Turf route going 1 and 3/8th and doesn’t look to be any world beaters in this one. The best looking 3 yr old in the race looks to be the #6 but odds wont warrant a Win bet. So $20 Win bet goes to the filly against the boys #12 Havana Moon who gets Johnny V and Lasix for first time after racing ok in her last two US races. Should be nice price and I’ll play a $2 exacta box 6,7,8,10 Cost $48
Race 6—Grade 1 Personal Ensign--only 5 entries—not much value to be had— the longer two turn distance of 1 1/8th mile may come into play if a few of these want the lead. There is any pace on paper so that may happen. One that will sit back with Rosario is #3 Forever Unbridled – never raced at Saratoga either so could love it—works have been fast with some bullets on the track. $20 Win on #3
Race 7-Grade 1 Ballerina-nice field of 10 and the only a few pace horses don’t seem to be contenders—this has a weird look to it as normally a Grade 1 7 furlong sprint will have some stud pace types—so I’ll look so the best stalker which looks to be #3 Paulassilverlining which should be right behind the pace early and get first run late. The #4 Sheer Drama right to her outside looks is facing easier comp then she has the last few years also and love Toga and the distance. Sheer Drama a little better m/l price so I will play $20 Win on #4 Sheer Drama and play a $10 exacta box 3-4 Cost $20.Also starting a $1 pk 3 with 3,4/1,2,3/3,6,7,10,11,12Cost $36
Race 8- Grade 1 Kings Bishop—hardest race of the day for me to find the winner—do you think Baffert’s two are freaks or play against? Tough but I have always found playing the east coast instead of the west coast invaders at Toga. So tossing Baffert’s speed freaks. There is also a ton of pace in this on also so I’m looking for east coast horses cutting back or with closing kicks but here are a lot of those also—like the 1,2,3 and hope they can get the trip.There are literally 8 horses in here with big chance.Playing $20 Win on #2 Fish Trappe Road at 8-1 m/l and $5 exacta box 1-2-3Cost $30
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Race 6—Grade 1 Personal Ensign--only 5 entries—not much value to be had— the longer two turn distance of 1 1/8th mile may come into play if a few of these want the lead. There is any pace on paper so that may happen. One that will sit back with Rosario is #3 Forever Unbridled – never raced at Saratoga either so could love it—works have been fast with some bullets on the track. $20 Win on #3
Race 7-Grade 1 Ballerina-nice field of 10 and the only a few pace horses don’t seem to be contenders—this has a weird look to it as normally a Grade 1 7 furlong sprint will have some stud pace types—so I’ll look so the best stalker which looks to be #3 Paulassilverlining which should be right behind the pace early and get first run late. The #4 Sheer Drama right to her outside looks is facing easier comp then she has the last few years also and love Toga and the distance. Sheer Drama a little better m/l price so I will play $20 Win on #4 Sheer Drama and play a $10 exacta box 3-4 Cost $20.Also starting a $1 pk 3 with 3,4/1,2,3/3,6,7,10,11,12Cost $36
Race 8- Grade 1 Kings Bishop—hardest race of the day for me to find the winner—do you think Baffert’s two are freaks or play against? Tough but I have always found playing the east coast instead of the west coast invaders at Toga. So tossing Baffert’s speed freaks. There is also a ton of pace in this on also so I’m looking for east coast horses cutting back or with closing kicks but here are a lot of those also—like the 1,2,3 and hope they can get the trip.There are literally 8 horses in here with big chance.Playing $20 Win on #2 Fish Trappe Road at 8-1 m/l and $5 exacta box 1-2-3Cost $30
Race 9- Grade 1 Forego – I miss Private Zone—he always made my choice easy. Lot of new shooters in the race and with no Run Happy or Private Zone who wants to take the lead role in the division? #11 AP Indian has been staking his claim and has a good draw and likes 7 furlongs. But you can’t play a 5-2 m/l fav in a race like this as many can win. Im playing $20 Win on #3 Limousine Liberal at 15-1 m/l and Im hoping he is ready of the little break—on his best day he can win this and at 15-1 m/l I’ll try. Lots of other prices I like also so I’m playing deep and hoping to cash-- $5 exacta box 3-6-7 cost $30 and $1 tri 3,6,7/3,6,7,10,11,12/3,6,7,10,11,12Cost $60
Race 10- Grade 1 Sword Dancer-Field of 7 and #6 Flintshire will be 1-5 like he is on the m/l—I’ll just play a $20 Win bet on #2 Money Multiplier who is really in good form and seems to like the longer distances.
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Race 9- Grade 1 Forego – I miss Private Zone—he always made my choice easy. Lot of new shooters in the race and with no Run Happy or Private Zone who wants to take the lead role in the division? #11 AP Indian has been staking his claim and has a good draw and likes 7 furlongs. But you can’t play a 5-2 m/l fav in a race like this as many can win. Im playing $20 Win on #3 Limousine Liberal at 15-1 m/l and Im hoping he is ready of the little break—on his best day he can win this and at 15-1 m/l I’ll try. Lots of other prices I like also so I’m playing deep and hoping to cash-- $5 exacta box 3-6-7 cost $30 and $1 tri 3,6,7/3,6,7,10,11,12/3,6,7,10,11,12Cost $60
Race 10- Grade 1 Sword Dancer-Field of 7 and #6 Flintshire will be 1-5 like he is on the m/l—I’ll just play a $20 Win bet on #2 Money Multiplier who is really in good form and seems to like the longer distances.
TRAVERS!!!!! Race 11- Grade 1 Travers -well the pace will be real—with Baffert having two inside pace types they will go—couple others may go early also—really like the fact that the pace types also have never gone 1 and 1/4th mile. Although I hate playing deep stalkers and closers I am going to bank on a break down up front. The best stalkers looks to be #8 Destin and #9 Gift Box—they should get the absolute dream trips with their post and stalking ability. #7 Exaggerator is the class and most likely winner but cant play a 3/1 m/l.Also like #4 Governor Malibu to come late.So $20 Win on #9 Gift Box at 12-1 m/l and $5 ex and $1 tri box 4-7-8-9 Cost $54$1 pk 33,7,8,9/1,3,5,7,8/1,7,9,10,11Cost $100
Race 12- Grade 2 Ballston Spa -Lady Eli looks 1-5 but the layoff is always a question--I’ll play a mare stepping WAY up in class but has been on fire this year since coming back to the races from 2014-- $20 Win on #1 Sweet Acclaim at 20-1 m/l and has crushed minor turf horses and gets the big girls now.
Race 13-State bred turf event with some heavy favs toward the outside—they should factor but ill try another 20-1 m/l price with $20 Win on #1 Lotta Gold-- faced open company lat two races after breaking maiden at same distance vs state bred in June—Barclay Tagg at 20-1 m/l in state bred turf race never a bad bet. Would be nice to cash this one last race.
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TRAVERS!!!!! Race 11- Grade 1 Travers -well the pace will be real—with Baffert having two inside pace types they will go—couple others may go early also—really like the fact that the pace types also have never gone 1 and 1/4th mile. Although I hate playing deep stalkers and closers I am going to bank on a break down up front. The best stalkers looks to be #8 Destin and #9 Gift Box—they should get the absolute dream trips with their post and stalking ability. #7 Exaggerator is the class and most likely winner but cant play a 3/1 m/l.Also like #4 Governor Malibu to come late.So $20 Win on #9 Gift Box at 12-1 m/l and $5 ex and $1 tri box 4-7-8-9 Cost $54$1 pk 33,7,8,9/1,3,5,7,8/1,7,9,10,11Cost $100
Race 12- Grade 2 Ballston Spa -Lady Eli looks 1-5 but the layoff is always a question--I’ll play a mare stepping WAY up in class but has been on fire this year since coming back to the races from 2014-- $20 Win on #1 Sweet Acclaim at 20-1 m/l and has crushed minor turf horses and gets the big girls now.
Race 13-State bred turf event with some heavy favs toward the outside—they should factor but ill try another 20-1 m/l price with $20 Win on #1 Lotta Gold-- faced open company lat two races after breaking maiden at same distance vs state bred in June—Barclay Tagg at 20-1 m/l in state bred turf race never a bad bet. Would be nice to cash this one last race.
Sorry, I'm just getting in to this and hoping to do better than I do at cards. :) Any good websites you suggest I can learn quickly from or tips for this gal? I've tried reading the posts, but I just don't understand all the lingo.
Thanks!
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Sorry, I'm just getting in to this and hoping to do better than I do at cards. :) Any good websites you suggest I can learn quickly from or tips for this gal? I've tried reading the posts, but I just don't understand all the lingo.
Val--- there are a bunch-- -just google how to bet on horse racing and many will come up and start reading them. Then you can learn how to read a "form" which shows all the data and past performances of each horse. good luck-- its a very tough game
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Val--- there are a bunch-- -just google how to bet on horse racing and many will come up and start reading them. Then you can learn how to read a "form" which shows all the data and past performances of each horse. good luck-- its a very tough game
Thank you Bombcapper! Wow, there is a lot so I've got a lot of reading to do All I've done so far is just bet on Win, Place, or Show, and my guesses aren't very good...
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Thank you Bombcapper! Wow, there is a lot so I've got a lot of reading to do All I've done so far is just bet on Win, Place, or Show, and my guesses aren't very good...
Offering some contributions feedback and follow up. bombcapper - Good job calling out the inside speed types, their posts, they go, they'll go, Baffert's propensity to go and his conditioning to speed. At least you actualized a component of the race accurately. It seems you (we) have to pick one thing and stick to it, variable wise. It seems we both got too silly with our assessments'. I felt I was complicating matters for myself and felt perplexed and, emotionally bound to Destin. I still feel he's a freak. Remember Mucho Macho Man. A few things. Destin got about mugged in that first 1/16th. No complaining just an explanation. He did have a trip excuse. Pinched slammed cutoff shutoff trying to jump in the air then quickly washed out in-race passing horses shifting lanes urged sprinting up all, before the far turn. Idiotically used up. Why would Castellano go to the whip going into that far turn??? You don't have horse it's over don't try. Ride him out. Put him on the bench train him back like a normal race horse and put away "the sheets". What a joke. I don't really want to talk about that. It's over suck it up move on. Arrogate was my 2 behind Destin and to win till I got off of him for Gift Box. If I had seen Connect's race time odds, I would of been all over him too. I'm disappointed because I was a huge Cross Traffic Liam's Map & Graydar fan. I did mention behind Curlins' my infinity for Unbridled Songs'. If I had known Arrogate didn't put away a 3-horse field clearly, I would of probably felt more content not backing him. I missed that. Either way it was a mistake and, no colt in the history of horse racing was going to beat Arrogate Saturday, Big Red included. I do like speed types stretching out for the first time. I also like runners moving up. Destin 4th choice morning line was right, 2•1 to 10•1 wasn't. Something was amiss. Arrogate was right. Connect's morning line was too short. Gun Runner and Creator junk and punters taking it up the yin-yang. Gift Box was good. American Freedom I couldn't bet, didn't like him but, he was an overlay. Exaggerator Friday night I knew the race was over for him, they begged you to bet him at 5•1. LMAO. Laoban obvious bounce. Bombs couldn't get there. And Governor Malibu too, something was just wrong with his odds to running lines. A few things to take away from this. It always seems East coast horses win out West and vice versa on big race days, just look at the recent big races. After last year, Baffert was going to win the opposite always occurs. And the most finite thing was if you're an in-touch capper was, you had to say to yourself damn, this race is offering you a lot of and many betting interests. There were so many good bets out there. And, I know Destin wasn't one of them. I said to myself before the race something and the night before. What I felt and thought and what needed to happen was the key and in this instance something no bettor had a chance of controlling. All you had to do was make a good bet and be content. Arrogate American Freedom Gift Box Connect (w/his race time odds) and a few others were all good wagers bombs included. Destin Gun Runner (big deal he ran a lucky 3rd, most positions by these colts didn't change as they raced through the wire) Creator Governor Malibu and a few others were all donkey bets. What I said about the good bets to myself was, man the winner out of these needs to fire to win and you have no way of knowing who that was going to be but that someone who was going to win would surely fire. I said that to myself 24-48 hours before the race ended and well before B. Baffert's post race comments that his horse fired. That's the truth, you had no idea who was going to fire. This field and their running lines gave you no indication of a single standout, many seemed to be sitting on a big one. Arrogate definitely freaked. R. I. P. Unbridled Song.
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Offering some contributions feedback and follow up. bombcapper - Good job calling out the inside speed types, their posts, they go, they'll go, Baffert's propensity to go and his conditioning to speed. At least you actualized a component of the race accurately. It seems you (we) have to pick one thing and stick to it, variable wise. It seems we both got too silly with our assessments'. I felt I was complicating matters for myself and felt perplexed and, emotionally bound to Destin. I still feel he's a freak. Remember Mucho Macho Man. A few things. Destin got about mugged in that first 1/16th. No complaining just an explanation. He did have a trip excuse. Pinched slammed cutoff shutoff trying to jump in the air then quickly washed out in-race passing horses shifting lanes urged sprinting up all, before the far turn. Idiotically used up. Why would Castellano go to the whip going into that far turn??? You don't have horse it's over don't try. Ride him out. Put him on the bench train him back like a normal race horse and put away "the sheets". What a joke. I don't really want to talk about that. It's over suck it up move on. Arrogate was my 2 behind Destin and to win till I got off of him for Gift Box. If I had seen Connect's race time odds, I would of been all over him too. I'm disappointed because I was a huge Cross Traffic Liam's Map & Graydar fan. I did mention behind Curlins' my infinity for Unbridled Songs'. If I had known Arrogate didn't put away a 3-horse field clearly, I would of probably felt more content not backing him. I missed that. Either way it was a mistake and, no colt in the history of horse racing was going to beat Arrogate Saturday, Big Red included. I do like speed types stretching out for the first time. I also like runners moving up. Destin 4th choice morning line was right, 2•1 to 10•1 wasn't. Something was amiss. Arrogate was right. Connect's morning line was too short. Gun Runner and Creator junk and punters taking it up the yin-yang. Gift Box was good. American Freedom I couldn't bet, didn't like him but, he was an overlay. Exaggerator Friday night I knew the race was over for him, they begged you to bet him at 5•1. LMAO. Laoban obvious bounce. Bombs couldn't get there. And Governor Malibu too, something was just wrong with his odds to running lines. A few things to take away from this. It always seems East coast horses win out West and vice versa on big race days, just look at the recent big races. After last year, Baffert was going to win the opposite always occurs. And the most finite thing was if you're an in-touch capper was, you had to say to yourself damn, this race is offering you a lot of and many betting interests. There were so many good bets out there. And, I know Destin wasn't one of them. I said to myself before the race something and the night before. What I felt and thought and what needed to happen was the key and in this instance something no bettor had a chance of controlling. All you had to do was make a good bet and be content. Arrogate American Freedom Gift Box Connect (w/his race time odds) and a few others were all good wagers bombs included. Destin Gun Runner (big deal he ran a lucky 3rd, most positions by these colts didn't change as they raced through the wire) Creator Governor Malibu and a few others were all donkey bets. What I said about the good bets to myself was, man the winner out of these needs to fire to win and you have no way of knowing who that was going to be but that someone who was going to win would surely fire. I said that to myself 24-48 hours before the race ended and well before B. Baffert's post race comments that his horse fired. That's the truth, you had no idea who was going to fire. This field and their running lines gave you no indication of a single standout, many seemed to be sitting on a big one. Arrogate definitely freaked. R. I. P. Unbridled Song.
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All I've done so far is just bet on Win, Place, or Show, and my guesses aren't very good...
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