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    Any Futures Trading Experts Here? Interesting Stuff

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    Posted: Jan. 28, 2009 - 12:59 PM ET #1

    As a professional gambler with an interest in the stock market, I am intrigued with futures trading and its similarities with the live betting at World Sports Exchange. Automatic futures trading programs have long been available with the stock market. With the day-trading phenomenon I would imagine that they work, but I do not have any first hand experience. Many of the futures trading programs enable you to run mathematical equations such as a Monte Carlo system that can test various buy and sell strategies on historical prices. For me, what is fascinating is that all of these tools are now available for the wsex exchange (name withheld so as not to appear as a promotion). As a math guy, I understand the theory, but I am hoping there are some here who can provide their opinion.

    I would assume that the actual exchange characteristics are similar between wsex and real futures trading - neither market is entirely predictable. As such, strategies are based on the movement of the contract price. I suppose that with historical prices you can test strategies such as "buy at $50, sell at $100 or $20", or "buy after a price drop of 20%". Whatever the system you think up, you would have a chance to test it on real data. I am sure that there isn't a "Holy Grail" of strategies, but probably hundreds with varying risk and profitability.

    Based on the above, I am trying to find reasons why these would not work. If there are profitable systems out there, you will have the resources to find them. Can it be that there aren’t any profitable systems because of the unpredictable markets? I suppose, but if the wsex exchange is similar to real futures exchanges, and if these tools work in real futures trading, then they should work at wsex.

    In any event, this seems very interesting. I am hoping to hear what others think.
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    As a professional gambler with an interest in the stock market, I am intrigued with futures trading and its similarities with the live betting at World Sports Exchange. Automatic futures trading programs have long been available with the stock market. With the day-trading phenomenon I would imagine that they work, but I do not have any first hand experience. Many of the futures trading programs enable you to run mathematical equations such as a Monte Carlo system that can test various buy and sell strategies on historical prices. For me, what is fascinating is that all of these tools are now available for the wsex exchange (name withheld so as not to appear as a promotion). As a math guy, I understand the theory, but I am hoping there are some here who can provide their opinion.

    I would assume that the actual exchange characteristics are similar between wsex and real futures trading - neither market is entirely predictable. As such, strategies are based on the movement of the contract price. I suppose that with historical prices you can test strategies such as "buy at $50, sell at $100 or $20", or "buy after a price drop of 20%". Whatever the system you think up, you would have a chance to test it on real data. I am sure that there isn't a "Holy Grail" of strategies, but probably hundreds with varying risk and profitability.

    Based on the above, I am trying to find reasons why these would not work. If there are profitable systems out there, you will have the resources to find them. Can it be that there aren’t any profitable systems because of the unpredictable markets? I suppose, but if the wsex exchange is similar to real futures exchanges, and if these tools work in real futures trading, then they should work at wsex.

    In any event, this seems very interesting. I am hoping to hear what others think.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 11, 2009 - 12:14 PM ET #3

    Thought that there might be more interest with all the forex and emini guys here.  Went ahead and bought the software and database yesterday, lets hope it works. will give me something to do in the overnight anyway. 
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    Thought that there might be more interest with all the forex and emini guys here.  Went ahead and bought the software and database yesterday, lets hope it works. will give me something to do in the overnight anyway. 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 11, 2009 - 12:19 PM ET #4

    We talk Forex all the time..

    Futures trading is similar to Forex, just different instruments.

    So you bot some software? Are you trying to create a system based on creating a program and feeding it data and back testing?
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    We talk Forex all the time..

    Futures trading is similar to Forex, just different instruments.

    So you bot some software? Are you trying to create a system based on creating a program and feeding it data and back testing?
     
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    Posted: Feb. 18, 2009 - 7:02 PM ET #5

    You can not make money trading live events at wsex. The reason is the bid/ask spread is an absolute fucking joke.... what they do with those live markets should be a violation of fair gaming requirements.
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    You can not make money trading live events at wsex. The reason is the bid/ask spread is an absolute fucking joke.... what they do with those live markets should be a violation of fair gaming requirements.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 18, 2009 - 7:05 PM ET #6

    fyi try a real market like matchbook
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    Posted: Feb. 18, 2009 - 7:16 PM ET #7

    Have to add one more thing, the MAIN reason you are committing dollar suicide even fooling with live events at wsex is it isnt even a real live market. They are constantly blocking all buy/sell orders whenever it is not beneficial for them to accept them. You cant even enter a limit order you have to accept their shitty price on their shitty terms or you dont get an order filled. Basically what Im trying to say is wsex live wagering sucks balls
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    Have to add one more thing, the MAIN reason you are committing dollar suicide even fooling with live events at wsex is it isnt even a real live market. They are constantly blocking all buy/sell orders whenever it is not beneficial for them to accept them. You cant even enter a limit order you have to accept their shitty price on their shitty terms or you dont get an order filled. Basically what Im trying to say is wsex live wagering sucks balls
     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 22, 2009 - 5:05 AM ET #8

    I'm continually amazed how many people think free markets really exist...I mean do you guys really believe this?
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    I'm continually amazed how many people think free markets really exist...I mean do you guys really believe this?
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