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    Barron's slams Jim Cramer again

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    Posted: Feb. 10, 2009 - 9:39 AM ET #1

    Back in August of 2007, Barron's Bill Alpert slammed Jim Cramer's stock-picking abilities in a cover story (subscription required). At the time, Alpert reported that "Over the past two years, viewers holding Cramer's stocks would be up 12% while the Dow rose 22% and the S&P 500 16%, according to a record of 1,300 of the CNBC star's Buy recommendations compiled by YourMoneyWatch.com, a Website run by a retired stock analyst and loyal Cramer-watcher."

    Now Alpert is back for more. In the latest issue of Barron's, he writes (subscription required) that "Cramer's recommendations underperform the market by most measures. From May to December of last year, for example, the market lost about 30%. Heeding Cramer's Buys and Sells would have added another five percentage points to that loss, according to our latest tally."

    The article goes into fairly excruciating detail, looking at the data from a number of different perspective, all with the same result: Investors would do just as well throwing darts at the stock table. What gives? Part of the problem is that Cramer is simply giving way too many stock picks. Warren Buffett has has said that an investor can expect only a handful of good investment ideas in an entire lifetime: Cramer gives several every night. With all his media appearances, how could he possibly have time to learn enough about all these companies to have an edge over the market?

    In the end, I think you'd have to be pretty dumb to buy or sell any stock based on what a television commentator says. But Cramer is one of the smartest minds in the financial markets, and his show is one of the only truly entertaining places to learn about Wall Street. If you don't take his manic antics too seriously, there's a lot to be learned from the show.
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    Back in August of 2007, Barron's Bill Alpert slammed Jim Cramer's stock-picking abilities in a cover story (subscription required). At the time, Alpert reported that "Over the past two years, viewers holding Cramer's stocks would be up 12% while the Dow rose 22% and the S&P 500 16%, according to a record of 1,300 of the CNBC star's Buy recommendations compiled by YourMoneyWatch.com, a Website run by a retired stock analyst and loyal Cramer-watcher."

    Now Alpert is back for more. In the latest issue of Barron's, he writes (subscription required) that "Cramer's recommendations underperform the market by most measures. From May to December of last year, for example, the market lost about 30%. Heeding Cramer's Buys and Sells would have added another five percentage points to that loss, according to our latest tally."

    The article goes into fairly excruciating detail, looking at the data from a number of different perspective, all with the same result: Investors would do just as well throwing darts at the stock table. What gives? Part of the problem is that Cramer is simply giving way too many stock picks. Warren Buffett has has said that an investor can expect only a handful of good investment ideas in an entire lifetime: Cramer gives several every night. With all his media appearances, how could he possibly have time to learn enough about all these companies to have an edge over the market?

    In the end, I think you'd have to be pretty dumb to buy or sell any stock based on what a television commentator says. But Cramer is one of the smartest minds in the financial markets, and his show is one of the only truly entertaining places to learn about Wall Street. If you don't take his manic antics too seriously, there's a lot to be learned from the show.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 10, 2009 - 11:06 AM ET #2

    Thats correct, Cramer should not be on the air, he is an unregulated disaster to investors.
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    Thats correct, Cramer should not be on the air, he is an unregulated disaster to investors.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 11, 2009 - 6:51 PM ET #3

    cramer like a broken clock,right 2 times a day wrong the rest
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    Posted: Feb. 15, 2009 - 5:17 PM ET #4

    Ive made about 15k in the past 6 months listening to Cramer while only starting out with a 10K investment

    Thank you Jim Cramer   
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    Ive made about 15k in the past 6 months listening to Cramer while only starting out with a 10K investment

    Thank you Jim Cramer   
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by babs1540:

    Ive made about 15k in the past 6 months listening to Cramer while only starting out with a 10K investment

    Thank you Jim Cramer   


    Stop lying 
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    Ive made about 15k in the past 6 months listening to Cramer while only starting out with a 10K investment

    Thank you Jim Cramer   


    Stop lying 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 19, 2009 - 3:24 PM ET #6

    You look at most mutual fund managers and almost all of them underperform the general market. There's an actual study on this but I can't seem to find it right now and it concludes that a fund manager adds no value to your returns relative to the markets growth.. You're better off investing in index funds. Having a big shot fund manager means nothing at the end of the day. Jim Crammer is the same.
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    You look at most mutual fund managers and almost all of them underperform the general market. There's an actual study on this but I can't seem to find it right now and it concludes that a fund manager adds no value to your returns relative to the markets growth.. You're better off investing in index funds. Having a big shot fund manager means nothing at the end of the day. Jim Crammer is the same.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 21, 2009 - 3:46 AM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by TILTOLOGIC:



    Stop lying 


    on Nov 21 i bought 1250 shares US steel at 23.44 and sold it on Dec 16 at 37.27
    Do the math!
    you have to understand, hes running an hour show and in that hour he talks about 75 stocks. Some r good and some r bad but if you just listen to him he tells you exactly when to get out.
    just a guess but perhaps you stayed in too long.



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    Quote Originally Posted by TILTOLOGIC:



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    on Nov 21 i bought 1250 shares US steel at 23.44 and sold it on Dec 16 at 37.27
    Do the math!
    you have to understand, hes running an hour show and in that hour he talks about 75 stocks. Some r good and some r bad but if you just listen to him he tells you exactly when to get out.
    just a guess but perhaps you stayed in too long.



     
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    Posted: Feb. 21, 2009 - 3:49 AM ET #8

    also it was on margin
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    also it was on margin
     
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    Posted: Mar. 5, 2009 - 2:16 AM ET #9

    in this market you bought 1250 on margin and made 15 k
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    in this market you bought 1250 on margin and made 15 k
     
     
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    Posted: Mar. 6, 2009 - 2:25 PM ET #10

    here's a good Jon Stewart "Daily Show" spiel about CNBC in general and Cramer in particular that was in the Politics Forum....
     
    https://tradermike.net/2009/03/the-daily-shows-hilarious-look-at-cnbcs-money-losing-advice/
     
     
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    here's a good Jon Stewart "Daily Show" spiel about CNBC in general and Cramer in particular that was in the Politics Forum....
     
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