Jim Kramer on Hardball friday
Ambac Downgraded, Cities Seen at Risk
2008-01-19 06:45:38By STEPHEN BERNARD and LESLIE WINES AP Business Writers
NEW YORK (AP) — A downgrade of bond insurer Ambac Financial Group Inc. is likely to have far-reaching effects, making it more difficult for cities to issue new bonds and forcing further write-downs at financial services companies, analysts said Friday.
After Ambac scrapped plans to raise $1 billion in capital, Fitch Ratings cut the company's crucial financial strength rating to "AA" from "AAA."
The downgrade likely means Ambac will not underwrite any more business, said John Flahive, director of fixed income for BNY Mellon Wealth Management. Market prices of existing bonds insured by Ambac and MBIA Inc. were trading lower before the downgrade, and Flahive suggested any downgrade could accelerate the decline.
Ambac and chief competitor MBIA together insure $700 billion in municipal bonds, and MBIA's "AAA" rating is also under threat. The company issued $1 billion in bonds this week to preserve the rating, though that may not be enough to satisfy the ratings agencies. MBIA said in a statement Friday it intends to keep working toward maintaining its "AAA" rating.
Since late last year, when the agencies first raised the prospect, analysts have suggested any move to cut Ambac or MBIA below "AAA" could be disastrous. The concern is that downgrades will lead to a reduction in the value of portfolios at dozens of financial institutions, said Donald Light, a senior analyst at Celent LLC.
"Bond insurers are the lynchpin holding together valuations of portfolios of all kinds of financial institutions," Light said.
That scenario has already played out at least once, as Merrill Lynch & Co. reduced the value of a portfolio by $3.1 billion because of investments connected to ACA Capital Holdings Inc. ACA, with a much smaller book of business than Ambac or MBIA, was downgraded to junk status by Standard & Poor's last month.
But while downgrades threaten to send financial services firms further into a tailspin, it will also create huge problems for municipalities.
Prior to Ambac's downgrade, T.J. Marta, a fixed-income analyst at RBC Capital Markets, said a downgrade of the company would lead to downgrades of all the municipal bonds it insured. Subsequently, it will become more difficult for cities, counties and other local entities to issue debt for building projects, Marta said.
Several types of municipal issuers will be most vulnerable if they can no longer secure insurance. These are borrowers like small private schools and hospitals that are not backed by a regular tax base or revenue stream. Typically, these entities have had to secure insurance to gain credibility with the public and sell their debt.
At the very minimum the troubles of the insurers will drive up borrowing costs of cities and other local entities at a time when many are strained by weaker tax revenue, said John Atkins, a fixed-income analyst at IDEAGlobal.com.
The failures of some bond insurers could open the door for those who do not get downgraded, as municipalities look to minimize borrowing costs.
"Survivors will get long-term benefit from the near-term volatility," said Steve Stelmach, an analyst at Friedman, Billings, Ramsey & Co.
Warren Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway could be one company that gets a boost. Buffett launched a new bond insurance business in December that has a "AAA" credit rating and a solid balance sheet. Buffett's new company also has the benefit of having no questionable loans on its books.
Late Friday, Fitch also downgraded 420 classes of asset-backed securities transactions supported by a financial guaranty policy provided by a subsidiary of Ambac.
Ambac Downgraded, Cities Seen at Risk
2008-01-19 06:45:38By STEPHEN BERNARD and LESLIE WINES AP Business Writers
NEW YORK (AP) — A downgrade of bond insurer Ambac Financial Group Inc. is likely to have far-reaching effects, making it more difficult for cities to issue new bonds and forcing further write-downs at financial services companies, analysts said Friday.
After Ambac scrapped plans to raise $1 billion in capital, Fitch Ratings cut the company's crucial financial strength rating to "AA" from "AAA."
The downgrade likely means Ambac will not underwrite any more business, said John Flahive, director of fixed income for BNY Mellon Wealth Management. Market prices of existing bonds insured by Ambac and MBIA Inc. were trading lower before the downgrade, and Flahive suggested any downgrade could accelerate the decline.
Ambac and chief competitor MBIA together insure $700 billion in municipal bonds, and MBIA's "AAA" rating is also under threat. The company issued $1 billion in bonds this week to preserve the rating, though that may not be enough to satisfy the ratings agencies. MBIA said in a statement Friday it intends to keep working toward maintaining its "AAA" rating.
Since late last year, when the agencies first raised the prospect, analysts have suggested any move to cut Ambac or MBIA below "AAA" could be disastrous. The concern is that downgrades will lead to a reduction in the value of portfolios at dozens of financial institutions, said Donald Light, a senior analyst at Celent LLC.
"Bond insurers are the lynchpin holding together valuations of portfolios of all kinds of financial institutions," Light said.
That scenario has already played out at least once, as Merrill Lynch & Co. reduced the value of a portfolio by $3.1 billion because of investments connected to ACA Capital Holdings Inc. ACA, with a much smaller book of business than Ambac or MBIA, was downgraded to junk status by Standard & Poor's last month.
But while downgrades threaten to send financial services firms further into a tailspin, it will also create huge problems for municipalities.
Prior to Ambac's downgrade, T.J. Marta, a fixed-income analyst at RBC Capital Markets, said a downgrade of the company would lead to downgrades of all the municipal bonds it insured. Subsequently, it will become more difficult for cities, counties and other local entities to issue debt for building projects, Marta said.
Several types of municipal issuers will be most vulnerable if they can no longer secure insurance. These are borrowers like small private schools and hospitals that are not backed by a regular tax base or revenue stream. Typically, these entities have had to secure insurance to gain credibility with the public and sell their debt.
At the very minimum the troubles of the insurers will drive up borrowing costs of cities and other local entities at a time when many are strained by weaker tax revenue, said John Atkins, a fixed-income analyst at IDEAGlobal.com.
The failures of some bond insurers could open the door for those who do not get downgraded, as municipalities look to minimize borrowing costs.
"Survivors will get long-term benefit from the near-term volatility," said Steve Stelmach, an analyst at Friedman, Billings, Ramsey & Co.
Warren Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway could be one company that gets a boost. Buffett launched a new bond insurance business in December that has a "AAA" credit rating and a solid balance sheet. Buffett's new company also has the benefit of having no questionable loans on its books.
Late Friday, Fitch also downgraded 420 classes of asset-backed securities transactions supported by a financial guaranty policy provided by a subsidiary of Ambac.
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Good comments.
Cramerica is a joke, 2k down on the DOW in one day? That would be more than when 9-11 happened.
The problem is nobody ever calls this joker on his claims, nor holds him responsible for what he does say.
Good comments.
Cramerica is a joke, 2k down on the DOW in one day? That would be more than when 9-11 happened.
The problem is nobody ever calls this joker on his claims, nor holds him responsible for what he does say.
Stock Markets Plunge Worldwide
2008-01-21 12:45:12By TOBY ANDERSON AP Business Writer
LONDON (AP) — Stocks fell sharply worldwide Monday following declines on Wall Street last week amid investor pessimism over the U.S. government's stimulus plan to prevent a recession.
U.S. markets were closed for Martin Luther King Jr. Day, but the downbeat mood from last week's market declines there circled through Europe, Asia and the Americas. Britain's benchmark FTSE-100 slumped 5.5 percent to 5,578.20, France's CAC-40 Index tumbled 6.8 percent to 4,744.15, and Germany's blue-chip DAX 30 plunged 7.2 percent to 6,790.19.
In Asia, India's benchmark stock index tumbled 7.4 percent, while Hong Kong's blue-chip Hang Seng index plummeted 5.5 percent to 23,818.86, its biggest percentage drop since the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks.
Canadian stocks fell as well, with the S&P/TSX composite index on the Toronto Stock Exchange down 4 percent in early afternoon trading. In Brazil, stocks plunged 6.9 percent on the main index of Sao Paulo's Bovespa exchange.
Investors dumped shares because they were skeptical that an economic stimulus plan President Bush announced Friday would shore up the economy that has been battered by problems in its housing and credit markets. (I wonder why?
) The plan, which requires approval by Congress, calls for about $145 billion worth of tax relief to encourage consumer spending.
"We've taken our lead from the Asian markets who have not been impressed by the U.S. There's debate if there's going to be a recession in the U.S. I don't think there's much chance of that though," said Richard Hunter an analyst at Hargreaves Lansdown Stockbrokers Ltd. in London.
Concerns about the outlook for the U.S. economy, a major export market for Asian companies, has sent the region's markets sliding in 2008. Just last Wednesday, the Hang Seng index sank 5.4 percent.
"It's another horrible day," said Francis Lun, a general manager at Fulbright Securities in Hong Kong. "Today it's because of disappointment that the U.S. stimulus (package) is too little, too late and investors feel it won't help the economy recover."
Japan's benchmark Nikkei 225 index slid 3.9 percent to close at 13,325.94 points, its lowest close in more than two years. China's Shanghai Composite index plunged 5.1 percent, partly on worries about mainland Chinese banks' exposure to risky U.S. mortgage investments. (starting to see a trend?)
"People are certainly nervous about a potential recession in the U.S. spilling over to the rest of the world," said David Cohen, Director of Asian Economic Forecasting at Action Economics in Singapore.
"Maybe there's still some wariness about politicians are able to come up with a compromise and act sufficiently quickly" on a stimulus package, Cohen said. "I think the impact would be marginal anyway."
Investors took cues from the negative reaction to the president's plan on Wall Street on Friday, when the Dow Jones industrial average slid 0.5 percent to 12,099.30, bringing its loss for the year so far to nearly 9 percent.
Traders also have shrugged off assurances from Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke that the U.S. central bank is ready to act aggressively — which means a likely big interest rate cut later this month — to help the sagging economy.
Some analysts predict that Asia won't suffer dramatically from a U.S. recession because increased trade and investment within Asia has made the region less reliant on the United States than in the past. Excluding Japan, 43 percent of Asia's exports go to other nations in the region, Lehman Brothers calculates, up from 37 percent in 1995.
But on Monday, uncertainty and pessimism reigned.
In Tokyo trading, exporters got hit hard, partly because of the yen's recent strength against the dollar. Toyota Motor Corp. lost 3.3 percent and Honda Motor Co. sank 3.4 percent.
Shares of Bank of China dropped 6.4 percent in Hong Kong after the South China Morning Post newspaper reported that the bank is expected to announce a "significant write-down" in U.S. subprime mortgage securities, citing unidentified sources. In Shanghai, the bank's stock declined 4.1 percent.
India's the benchmark Sensex index fell 1,353 points, or 7.4 percent — its second-biggest percentage drop ever — to 17,605.35 points. At one point, it was down nearly 11 percent.
The decline hit companies across the board, with power utility Reliance Energy Ltd. falling 16.4 percent. Major software company Tata Consultancy Services Ltd. slid 7.6 percent
"A gloomy U.S. climate has affected the global markets. Even if those markets recover, it will take sometime for the recovery to reach India because today's fall has been so drastic," said Jayant Pai, of the Mumbai investment company IL&FS Ltd.
Still, Pai and others suggested that the declines could lead to a buying opportunity.![]()
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(THAT'S a "three roller")
"The sell-off today takes us close to the bottom," she said. (maybe a grossly oversold short term trading bottom BUT I wouldn't book it. would just be a rally in a bear market)
Since the start of the year, Japan's Nikkei index has declined 13 percent, while Hong Kong's blue-chip index is down more than 14 percent. Even China's Shanghai index — which nearly doubled last year — has fallen 6.6 percent over the same period and nearly 20 percent from its all-time closing high on Oct. 16.
anyone STILL think we couldn't have a monster US market down day? ![]()
Stock Markets Plunge Worldwide
2008-01-21 12:45:12By TOBY ANDERSON AP Business Writer
LONDON (AP) — Stocks fell sharply worldwide Monday following declines on Wall Street last week amid investor pessimism over the U.S. government's stimulus plan to prevent a recession.
U.S. markets were closed for Martin Luther King Jr. Day, but the downbeat mood from last week's market declines there circled through Europe, Asia and the Americas. Britain's benchmark FTSE-100 slumped 5.5 percent to 5,578.20, France's CAC-40 Index tumbled 6.8 percent to 4,744.15, and Germany's blue-chip DAX 30 plunged 7.2 percent to 6,790.19.
In Asia, India's benchmark stock index tumbled 7.4 percent, while Hong Kong's blue-chip Hang Seng index plummeted 5.5 percent to 23,818.86, its biggest percentage drop since the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks.
Canadian stocks fell as well, with the S&P/TSX composite index on the Toronto Stock Exchange down 4 percent in early afternoon trading. In Brazil, stocks plunged 6.9 percent on the main index of Sao Paulo's Bovespa exchange.
Investors dumped shares because they were skeptical that an economic stimulus plan President Bush announced Friday would shore up the economy that has been battered by problems in its housing and credit markets. (I wonder why?
) The plan, which requires approval by Congress, calls for about $145 billion worth of tax relief to encourage consumer spending.
"We've taken our lead from the Asian markets who have not been impressed by the U.S. There's debate if there's going to be a recession in the U.S. I don't think there's much chance of that though," said Richard Hunter an analyst at Hargreaves Lansdown Stockbrokers Ltd. in London.
Concerns about the outlook for the U.S. economy, a major export market for Asian companies, has sent the region's markets sliding in 2008. Just last Wednesday, the Hang Seng index sank 5.4 percent.
"It's another horrible day," said Francis Lun, a general manager at Fulbright Securities in Hong Kong. "Today it's because of disappointment that the U.S. stimulus (package) is too little, too late and investors feel it won't help the economy recover."
Japan's benchmark Nikkei 225 index slid 3.9 percent to close at 13,325.94 points, its lowest close in more than two years. China's Shanghai Composite index plunged 5.1 percent, partly on worries about mainland Chinese banks' exposure to risky U.S. mortgage investments. (starting to see a trend?)
"People are certainly nervous about a potential recession in the U.S. spilling over to the rest of the world," said David Cohen, Director of Asian Economic Forecasting at Action Economics in Singapore.
"Maybe there's still some wariness about politicians are able to come up with a compromise and act sufficiently quickly" on a stimulus package, Cohen said. "I think the impact would be marginal anyway."
Investors took cues from the negative reaction to the president's plan on Wall Street on Friday, when the Dow Jones industrial average slid 0.5 percent to 12,099.30, bringing its loss for the year so far to nearly 9 percent.
Traders also have shrugged off assurances from Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke that the U.S. central bank is ready to act aggressively — which means a likely big interest rate cut later this month — to help the sagging economy.
Some analysts predict that Asia won't suffer dramatically from a U.S. recession because increased trade and investment within Asia has made the region less reliant on the United States than in the past. Excluding Japan, 43 percent of Asia's exports go to other nations in the region, Lehman Brothers calculates, up from 37 percent in 1995.
But on Monday, uncertainty and pessimism reigned.
In Tokyo trading, exporters got hit hard, partly because of the yen's recent strength against the dollar. Toyota Motor Corp. lost 3.3 percent and Honda Motor Co. sank 3.4 percent.
Shares of Bank of China dropped 6.4 percent in Hong Kong after the South China Morning Post newspaper reported that the bank is expected to announce a "significant write-down" in U.S. subprime mortgage securities, citing unidentified sources. In Shanghai, the bank's stock declined 4.1 percent.
India's the benchmark Sensex index fell 1,353 points, or 7.4 percent — its second-biggest percentage drop ever — to 17,605.35 points. At one point, it was down nearly 11 percent.
The decline hit companies across the board, with power utility Reliance Energy Ltd. falling 16.4 percent. Major software company Tata Consultancy Services Ltd. slid 7.6 percent
"A gloomy U.S. climate has affected the global markets. Even if those markets recover, it will take sometime for the recovery to reach India because today's fall has been so drastic," said Jayant Pai, of the Mumbai investment company IL&FS Ltd.
Still, Pai and others suggested that the declines could lead to a buying opportunity.![]()
![]()
(THAT'S a "three roller")
"The sell-off today takes us close to the bottom," she said. (maybe a grossly oversold short term trading bottom BUT I wouldn't book it. would just be a rally in a bear market)
Since the start of the year, Japan's Nikkei index has declined 13 percent, while Hong Kong's blue-chip index is down more than 14 percent. Even China's Shanghai index — which nearly doubled last year — has fallen 6.6 percent over the same period and nearly 20 percent from its all-time closing high on Oct. 16.
anyone STILL think we couldn't have a monster US market down day? ![]()
unless any of you actually understand what MBI ABK AGO SCA do...no one knows the effects of one of them defaulting
Yeah the "sky is falling" potential is HUGE, especially since if the market for buying and selling municipal debt goes SOUTH it will hurt a TON of people. I just dont think that a collapse will happen..it isnt like MUNI debt has turned into garbage..like the Orange County fiasco years ago..this is public companies extending themselves and not being able to cover the cash needs..similar to over-margining situations in the past with the markets.
Rat...if the US markets were at 14k, yeah we could get hammered, but we are already WELL off highs, while other markets were not nearly as hit like we were..
Maybe I am wrong but I dont see a -500 down day tomorrow.
unless any of you actually understand what MBI ABK AGO SCA do...no one knows the effects of one of them defaulting
Yeah the "sky is falling" potential is HUGE, especially since if the market for buying and selling municipal debt goes SOUTH it will hurt a TON of people. I just dont think that a collapse will happen..it isnt like MUNI debt has turned into garbage..like the Orange County fiasco years ago..this is public companies extending themselves and not being able to cover the cash needs..similar to over-margining situations in the past with the markets.
Rat...if the US markets were at 14k, yeah we could get hammered, but we are already WELL off highs, while other markets were not nearly as hit like we were..
Maybe I am wrong but I dont see a -500 down day tomorrow.
unless any of you actually understand what MBI ABK AGO SCA do...no one knows the effects of one of them defaulting
KOAJ,
Which is why you have to believe the government will eventually have to bail them out. Don't you think? To do so now would shore up this market more then any rate cuts or stimulus package ever could, imo.
unless any of you actually understand what MBI ABK AGO SCA do...no one knows the effects of one of them defaulting
KOAJ,
Which is why you have to believe the government will eventually have to bail them out. Don't you think? To do so now would shore up this market more then any rate cuts or stimulus package ever could, imo.
wall - muni debt is still good debt but the problem is much bigger...our entire economy is built on oversupplied cheap money which is leveraged 10x over into synthetic shit. at some point, the risk of repayment outweighs everything else so then lenders stop lending
in august quant models which are stress tested against the worst possible scenarios saw multiple 5 standard deviation events within a week...thats never supposed to happen in any circumstance, not within 10000 years (so i read in one article)
i know ive been talking about it for months, but you all should read Financial Armegeddon...the blog and the book
gl tomorrow
wall - muni debt is still good debt but the problem is much bigger...our entire economy is built on oversupplied cheap money which is leveraged 10x over into synthetic shit. at some point, the risk of repayment outweighs everything else so then lenders stop lending
in august quant models which are stress tested against the worst possible scenarios saw multiple 5 standard deviation events within a week...thats never supposed to happen in any circumstance, not within 10000 years (so i read in one article)
i know ive been talking about it for months, but you all should read Financial Armegeddon...the blog and the book
gl tomorrow
ive looked at some of their filings also (13F)...its public knowledge
also...most people ive spoken with in the last 4-6 months wanted short
ideas or ways to avoid bad longs
ive looked at some of their filings also (13F)...its public knowledge
also...most people ive spoken with in the last 4-6 months wanted short
ideas or ways to avoid bad longs
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