What are some people's thoughts on these two? They both specialize in the same industry, engaging in the design and manufacture of
mining equipment for the extraction of coal, copper, oil sands, iron
ore, and other minerals in mining centers worldwide.
BUCY specifically does 80% of its business internationally, mainly with India and China. So as these countries continue to seek out other energy alternatives, BUCY should thrive. Currently trading at about 7 to 8x earnings which isn't too bad. Has a pretty clean balance sheet too. Nice backog in revenue.
Only problem I have is that I may have missed the run as BUCY bottomed out at $10 and has recently run up from $20 to $25. Still though might present some nice value here. Other problem though is if / when the DOW and S&P pull back I could get in cheaper so maybe hold off for now?
Thoughts? definitely a play on commodoties and a nice diversification from my US stocks. I am leaning more towards BUCY over JOYG.
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What are some people's thoughts on these two? They both specialize in the same industry, engaging in the design and manufacture of
mining equipment for the extraction of coal, copper, oil sands, iron
ore, and other minerals in mining centers worldwide.
BUCY specifically does 80% of its business internationally, mainly with India and China. So as these countries continue to seek out other energy alternatives, BUCY should thrive. Currently trading at about 7 to 8x earnings which isn't too bad. Has a pretty clean balance sheet too. Nice backog in revenue.
Only problem I have is that I may have missed the run as BUCY bottomed out at $10 and has recently run up from $20 to $25. Still though might present some nice value here. Other problem though is if / when the DOW and S&P pull back I could get in cheaper so maybe hold off for now?
Thoughts? definitely a play on commodoties and a nice diversification from my US stocks. I am leaning more towards BUCY over JOYG.
I looked at BUCY and liked it so much I placed an order to buy it at today's discounted price just over 24. Other than the cash and debt levels, the fundamentals look great. Thanks for mentioning it.
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I looked at BUCY and liked it so much I placed an order to buy it at today's discounted price just over 24. Other than the cash and debt levels, the fundamentals look great. Thanks for mentioning it.
JOYG has more cash versus debt and more revenues, but looking at price to sales and book, the BUCY looks better.
I wonder how much of a hit their sales will take in the next quarter or two.
That is my biggest concern Wall. Yeah they have a backlog of $2.4 billion in revenue (BUCY), however, they need about $2.2 billion to sustain their current levels. From the 1Q09 earnings release the CEO stated they need about $800 million more in booked revenue to meet this years estimates. And he didn't seem too concerned and seemed like it was a done deal! That concerned me. However, if when the economy turns around and if BUCY sustains these levels, I think low 20's could be a steal.
Here is a link to the transcript from the 1Q09 earnings release. A nice education on their business model and what is going on.
JOYG has more cash versus debt and more revenues, but looking at price to sales and book, the BUCY looks better.
I wonder how much of a hit their sales will take in the next quarter or two.
That is my biggest concern Wall. Yeah they have a backlog of $2.4 billion in revenue (BUCY), however, they need about $2.2 billion to sustain their current levels. From the 1Q09 earnings release the CEO stated they need about $800 million more in booked revenue to meet this years estimates. And he didn't seem too concerned and seemed like it was a done deal! That concerned me. However, if when the economy turns around and if BUCY sustains these levels, I think low 20's could be a steal.
Here is a link to the transcript from the 1Q09 earnings release. A nice education on their business model and what is going on.
Found the very end of the conference call chat transcript pretty interesting:
From the CEO:
"I think we're more pleased by some stability and some certainty now
that's coming out of the commodity market that will help us all plan as
we move through the rest of this fiscal year.We feel confident
in our guidance and, as I mentioned, if that moves in a positive
direction, and it could, we will readjust that at mid-year."
Guess that could be CEO speak . . . but maybe it isn't. Thoughts?
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Found the very end of the conference call chat transcript pretty interesting:
From the CEO:
"I think we're more pleased by some stability and some certainty now
that's coming out of the commodity market that will help us all plan as
we move through the rest of this fiscal year.We feel confident
in our guidance and, as I mentioned, if that moves in a positive
direction, and it could, we will readjust that at mid-year."
Guess that could be CEO speak . . . but maybe it isn't. Thoughts?
These are great companies along with: FWLT, FLR,etc. The infrastructure play should work in the long term. Between overseas spending(which you mentioned) and the stimulus projects here in the US, I cannot see how E&C stocks aren't a good bet. This country has not addressed the issue of replacing a lot of our aging infrastructure- bridges,roads,etc.
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These are great companies along with: FWLT, FLR,etc. The infrastructure play should work in the long term. Between overseas spending(which you mentioned) and the stimulus projects here in the US, I cannot see how E&C stocks aren't a good bet. This country has not addressed the issue of replacing a lot of our aging infrastructure- bridges,roads,etc.
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