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    S&P 500 "Death Cross" chart pattern?

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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2010 - 3:07 PM ET #1

    the S&P 500 50 day moving average is right at the 200 day. according to technical "anal"ysis, it's one of THE signs of the danger of a "fast and nasty" selloff. also the FAZ is near a 4 month high showing weakness in the financials.

    would expect that IF the 50 does break the 200, every techie will be screaming SELL!!!

    ref: https://www.cnbc.com/id/38040408

    (OR the market COULD be close to an oversold "dead cat bounce")

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    the S&P 500 50 day moving average is right at the 200 day. according to technical "anal"ysis, it's one of THE signs of the danger of a "fast and nasty" selloff. also the FAZ is near a 4 month high showing weakness in the financials.

    would expect that IF the 50 does break the 200, every techie will be screaming SELL!!!

    ref: https://www.cnbc.com/id/38040408

    (OR the market COULD be close to an oversold "dead cat bounce")

     
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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2010 - 3:41 PM ET #2

    Isnt the actual death cross the 50MA  and the 100MA?

    Although i guess any of the longer time frame MAs moving above a shorter MAs is a sell signal

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    Isnt the actual death cross the 50MA  and the 100MA?

    Although i guess any of the longer time frame MAs moving above a shorter MAs is a sell signal

     
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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2010 - 6:40 PM ET #3

     I think Rink Rat has it right... the 200 day MA seems to be a good reference long-term default MA.   

    It's funny you talk about this, Rink Rat... I was just looking at technical indicators last night.  You talked about the MA's.... I was looking at the daily S&P vs. the 50day MA.
    Interesting, but at no time has the S&P been so "under" the 50day MA since before the "dark days of 08."    

    An oversold market ?    To me, the negativism seems overdone...



    https://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/charts/chartdl.aspx?D4=1&DD=1&D5=0&DCS=2&MA0=1&MA1=2&C5=12&C5D=1&C6=2009&C7=8&C7D=1&C8=2010&C9=0&CF=0&showchartbt=Redraw+chart&symbol=%24INX&nocookie=1&SZ=0&CP=0&PT=8


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     I think Rink Rat has it right... the 200 day MA seems to be a good reference long-term default MA.   

    It's funny you talk about this, Rink Rat... I was just looking at technical indicators last night.  You talked about the MA's.... I was looking at the daily S&P vs. the 50day MA.
    Interesting, but at no time has the S&P been so "under" the 50day MA since before the "dark days of 08."    

    An oversold market ?    To me, the negativism seems overdone...



    https://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/charts/chartdl.aspx?D4=1&DD=1&D5=0&DCS=2&MA0=1&MA1=2&C5=12&C5D=1&C6=2009&C7=8&C7D=1&C8=2010&C9=0&CF=0&showchartbt=Redraw+chart&symbol=%24INX&nocookie=1&SZ=0&CP=0&PT=8


     
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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2010 - 7:14 PM ET #4

    Well lets see what they do. I say they bounce it and maybe tank it after trying to bounce.

    The issue to me is that the news isnt good..numbers arent good and I am shocked that the market is here given the economic numbers.

    Fair value is probably in the 7500 range when you consider the quandry we are in.
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    Well lets see what they do. I say they bounce it and maybe tank it after trying to bounce.

    The issue to me is that the news isnt good..numbers arent good and I am shocked that the market is here given the economic numbers.

    Fair value is probably in the 7500 range when you consider the quandry we are in.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 2, 2010 - 7:50 PM ET #5

    I tend to agree Wall...

    Unfortunately, as a friend of mine once noted, "When two people see eye to eye, one of them is not thinking!"

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    I tend to agree Wall...

    Unfortunately, as a friend of mine once noted, "When two people see eye to eye, one of them is not thinking!"

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    Posted: Jul. 5, 2010 - 9:08 PM ET #6

    Futures getting murdered again.  Guess they'll look to take the S&P under 1,000 very soon.
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    Futures getting murdered again.  Guess they'll look to take the S&P under 1,000 very soon.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 6, 2010 - 1:23 PM ET #7

    another "pee your pants" prediction from the sooth sayer chartists....

    "The Dow Jones Industrial Average is repeating a pattern that appeared just before markets fell during the Great Depression, Daryl Guppy, CEO at Guppytraders.com, told CNBC Monday."

    ref: https://www.cnbc.com/id/38092759

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    another "pee your pants" prediction from the sooth sayer chartists....

    "The Dow Jones Industrial Average is repeating a pattern that appeared just before markets fell during the Great Depression, Daryl Guppy, CEO at Guppytraders.com, told CNBC Monday."

    ref: https://www.cnbc.com/id/38092759

     
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    Posted: Jul. 6, 2010 - 9:52 PM ET #8

    You know, Rink Rat, the only thing positive about "the markets" today is that the whole world is negative.

    Other than that, no matter how hard one tries, there is not one thing to find to generate any feelings of optimism.

    The leadership of the world is a three-ring circus, the world debt is staggering (way beyond staggering), and the earth itself is overpopulated and being bled dry of its resources.

    Yeah, several more rounds of bailout packages can be unleashed.  But what does that do?  Yeah, all it does is postopne financial armageddon until a later date.

    Yeah, man, other than all the negativity, NOTHING could make anyone really believe in this charade.

    And when social security and peeps' "retirement accounts" are declared null and void, Bernie Madoff will look like a 5 year old snot nosed kid stealing chewing gum from the local 5 and Dime.

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    You know, Rink Rat, the only thing positive about "the markets" today is that the whole world is negative.

    Other than that, no matter how hard one tries, there is not one thing to find to generate any feelings of optimism.

    The leadership of the world is a three-ring circus, the world debt is staggering (way beyond staggering), and the earth itself is overpopulated and being bled dry of its resources.

    Yeah, several more rounds of bailout packages can be unleashed.  But what does that do?  Yeah, all it does is postopne financial armageddon until a later date.

    Yeah, man, other than all the negativity, NOTHING could make anyone really believe in this charade.

    And when social security and peeps' "retirement accounts" are declared null and void, Bernie Madoff will look like a 5 year old snot nosed kid stealing chewing gum from the local 5 and Dime.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 7, 2010 - 3:58 PM ET #9

    (OR the market COULD be close to an oversold "dead cat bounce")

    Wednesday July 7th DJII up 260+ with the S&P +32+ and NASDAQ up 64+.

    FAZ back to under 16. gets to the 14 area again it's a BUY.

    too many people that got suckered in April looking to get out of the trap 

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    (OR the market COULD be close to an oversold "dead cat bounce")

    Wednesday July 7th DJII up 260+ with the S&P +32+ and NASDAQ up 64+.

    FAZ back to under 16. gets to the 14 area again it's a BUY.

    too many people that got suckered in April looking to get out of the trap 

     
     
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    Posted: Jul. 7, 2010 - 6:38 PM ET #10

    You could see the bounce coming...reading these charts isnt hard at all its only once they reach certain levels and its up or down thats the question..i said Sunday the DJIA goes to 10250s this week..where it goes from there is the question..

    CC is right though....this is the first year Social Security has paid more out than its collected...so whats that leave two,three years b4 its gone?More people draw $$$ from the system every year and it prob only gets worse

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    You could see the bounce coming...reading these charts isnt hard at all its only once they reach certain levels and its up or down thats the question..i said Sunday the DJIA goes to 10250s this week..where it goes from there is the question..

    CC is right though....this is the first year Social Security has paid more out than its collected...so whats that leave two,three years b4 its gone?More people draw $$$ from the system every year and it prob only gets worse

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