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    Are sportsbook employees allowed to wager in their own or other casinos?

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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2020 - 4:20 AM ET #1

    If you get a job in a sportsbook, can you bet on sports events, or go over and play poker on the casino side? Is there paperwork you have to sign, saying that you won't gamble in ANY sportsbook or casino anywhere? It seems to me that such a rule would keep a lot of gamblers from taking such jobs. 

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    If you get a job in a sportsbook, can you bet on sports events, or go over and play poker on the casino side? Is there paperwork you have to sign, saying that you won't gamble in ANY sportsbook or casino anywhere? It seems to me that such a rule would keep a lot of gamblers from taking such jobs. 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2020 - 4:34 PM ET #2

    I use to live in Vegas and the sportbook at the Sahara was my Livingroom. It was a small book but they would put on any game you wanted just to ask and they liked to give comps to players because management thought that comps were good for business.
    It was explained to me that dealers/writers could play any "game" that did not involve the handling of chips or required payoffs to be made by an employee to the person.This was to avoid collusion and sleight of hand scheme.Dealers use to come over to the book on every break to check on their bets and I know some ticket-writers use to bet on early games to have something to break the boredom of the night.Dealers could play sports,horses,slots,keno but not blackjack,craps,etc anything that required an employee to make a payoff to the player.
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    I use to live in Vegas and the sportbook at the Sahara was my Livingroom. It was a small book but they would put on any game you wanted just to ask and they liked to give comps to players because management thought that comps were good for business.
    It was explained to me that dealers/writers could play any "game" that did not involve the handling of chips or required payoffs to be made by an employee to the person.This was to avoid collusion and sleight of hand scheme.Dealers use to come over to the book on every break to check on their bets and I know some ticket-writers use to bet on early games to have something to break the boredom of the night.Dealers could play sports,horses,slots,keno but not blackjack,craps,etc anything that required an employee to make a payoff to the player.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2020 - 5:35 PM ET #3

    I used to work at caesars palace.

    Company policy said I could not play/bet anything at my home property.

    And at any other casinos owned by caesars, i could play anything but I still could not bet in their sportsbook.

    I thought it was odd, but everyone else in casino/hotel could gamble whatever, but for some reason

    a ticket writer couldn't do crap.

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    I used to work at caesars palace.

    Company policy said I could not play/bet anything at my home property.

    And at any other casinos owned by caesars, i could play anything but I still could not bet in their sportsbook.

    I thought it was odd, but everyone else in casino/hotel could gamble whatever, but for some reason

    a ticket writer couldn't do crap.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2020 - 6:56 PM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by 666LES:

    It was explained to me that dealers/writers could play any "game" that did not involve the handling of chips or required payoffs to be made by an employee to the person. Dealers use to come over to the book on every break to check on their bets and I know some ticket-writers use to bet on early games to have something to break the boredom of the night.Dealers could play sports,horses,slots,keno but not blackjack,craps,etc anything that required an employee to make a payoff to the player.
    Is a ticket writer the same as a cashier? I've never heard of that job title before. Whatever you call them, if you place your bet with them, and then cash a winning ticket with them, how is that not considered to be an employee making a payoff to the player? 

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    Quote Originally Posted by 666LES:

    It was explained to me that dealers/writers could play any "game" that did not involve the handling of chips or required payoffs to be made by an employee to the person. Dealers use to come over to the book on every break to check on their bets and I know some ticket-writers use to bet on early games to have something to break the boredom of the night.Dealers could play sports,horses,slots,keno but not blackjack,craps,etc anything that required an employee to make a payoff to the player.
    Is a ticket writer the same as a cashier? I've never heard of that job title before. Whatever you call them, if you place your bet with them, and then cash a winning ticket with them, how is that not considered to be an employee making a payoff to the player? 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 15, 2020 - 4:15 PM ET #5

    Quote Originally Posted by handicap6272:

    Is a ticket writer the same as a cashier? I've never heard of that job title before. Whatever you call them, if you place your bet with them, and then cash a winning ticket with them, how is that not considered to be an employee making a payoff to the player? 

    At the Sahara,you would cash your winning sport/horse ticket at a window or at the Cage both of which were manned by a cashier,these windows had several cameras and there was a procedure of displaying the payoff that was secure and was always followed.
    What wasn't allowed was something like a blackjack dealer on his off-time playing at a crap table and the crap dealer making payoffs on his pass line/odds bet. The sahara was afraid that the players would plan a slight of hand chip shuffle that wouldn't take place at the cashier cage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by handicap6272:

    Is a ticket writer the same as a cashier? I've never heard of that job title before. Whatever you call them, if you place your bet with them, and then cash a winning ticket with them, how is that not considered to be an employee making a payoff to the player? 

    At the Sahara,you would cash your winning sport/horse ticket at a window or at the Cage both of which were manned by a cashier,these windows had several cameras and there was a procedure of displaying the payoff that was secure and was always followed.
    What wasn't allowed was something like a blackjack dealer on his off-time playing at a crap table and the crap dealer making payoffs on his pass line/odds bet. The sahara was afraid that the players would plan a slight of hand chip shuffle that wouldn't take place at the cashier cage.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 3, 2021 - 5:11 PM ET #6

    Most companies have a policy against playing at your own property.  Too much temptation to for a slot tech or someone, to jump on a game after their shift.  Most employees never even visit the property they work at.  If you get drunk or into a fight at a bar or nightclub on property, your job is at jeopardy.  I think Wynn Casino employees had to notify their Supervisior if they came back on property to visit a restaurant, bar or see the show.  Binion's Casino back in the early days would let employees gamble on slots even during the shift.  A dealer is on his 20 minute break and would go over to the machine and fire up a cigarette.

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    Most companies have a policy against playing at your own property.  Too much temptation to for a slot tech or someone, to jump on a game after their shift.  Most employees never even visit the property they work at.  If you get drunk or into a fight at a bar or nightclub on property, your job is at jeopardy.  I think Wynn Casino employees had to notify their Supervisior if they came back on property to visit a restaurant, bar or see the show.  Binion's Casino back in the early days would let employees gamble on slots even during the shift.  A dealer is on his 20 minute break and would go over to the machine and fire up a cigarette.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 12, 2021 - 2:44 PM ET #7

    Yeah, i think all of the casions have this rule

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    Yeah, i think all of the casions have this rule

     
     
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    Posted: Apr. 15, 2021 - 2:07 AM ET #8

    A friend of mine works at https://qualitycasinos.info and according to him, all casinos have a strict rule that doesn't allow them to wager in the casinos they work at. It's a quite shady rule and I am not speaking about this casino in particular but about all of them. I don't think that they are scamming us by any means but this rule leaves a lot of room for interpretation. Most probably it was created in order to reduce the risk of a conflict of interests occurring and that's all.

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    A friend of mine works at https://qualitycasinos.info and according to him, all casinos have a strict rule that doesn't allow them to wager in the casinos they work at. It's a quite shady rule and I am not speaking about this casino in particular but about all of them. I don't think that they are scamming us by any means but this rule leaves a lot of room for interpretation. Most probably it was created in order to reduce the risk of a conflict of interests occurring and that's all.

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