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    Luxor nightclub, LAX, shakes down naive mom and dad

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    Posted: Mar. 10, 2008 - 4:03 PM ET #1

    Come with John and Tina Henderson as they take you through the powerfully expensive night they spent last month at LAX nightclub in Luxor. Warning: It is not for the faint of wallet.

    Henderson, 53, is a businessman who has lived in Las Vegas with his family since 1989. He and his wife took their daughter, Marissa, and her friends from Santa Clara University to LAX to celebrate her 21st birthday. He summed up the experience in an interview with the Sun on Thursday: “I was insulted. I felt financially raped.”

    ?”

    Henderson said he handed over $100.

    The doorman pointed to the hostess and the maitre d’ inside the club and said, “They’re next.” He walked the group inside to the hostess’s podium. Henderson said he gave her a $50 tip to look up his reservation and gave the maitre d’ $100 to lead the group a few feet farther into the club, where they were told to wait. He kept his money clip out, thinking, “Let’s get this over with.”

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    Come with John and Tina Henderson as they take you through the powerfully expensive night they spent last month at LAX nightclub in Luxor. Warning: It is not for the faint of wallet.

    Henderson, 53, is a businessman who has lived in Las Vegas with his family since 1989. He and his wife took their daughter, Marissa, and her friends from Santa Clara University to LAX to celebrate her 21st birthday. He summed up the experience in an interview with the Sun on Thursday: “I was insulted. I felt financially raped.”

    ?”

    Henderson said he handed over $100.

    The doorman pointed to the hostess and the maitre d’ inside the club and said, “They’re next.” He walked the group inside to the hostess’s podium. Henderson said he gave her a $50 tip to look up his reservation and gave the maitre d’ $100 to lead the group a few feet farther into the club, where they were told to wait. He kept his money clip out, thinking, “Let’s get this over with.”

     
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    Wait, bad copy and paste, here's the story again:
     

    Come with John and Tina Henderson as they take you through the powerfully expensive night they spent last month at LAX nightclub in Luxor. Warning: It is not for the faint of wallet.

    Henderson, 53, is a businessman who has lived in Las Vegas with his family since 1989. He and his wife took their daughter, Marissa, and her friends from Santa Clara University to LAX to celebrate her 21st birthday. He summed up the experience in an interview with the Sun on Thursday: “I was insulted. I felt financially raped.”

    John and Tina Henderson go over their receipts and talk about their recent experience at LAX nightclub in the Luxor, which set them back a pretty penny.

    THE BEVERAGE TAB

    $1,378

    IN THEIR WORDS

    “Everybody who wants to be tipped jumps on you right away, and I believe if you’re a taker, they stick with you. If not, they move on to the next table.” — John Henderson on the couple’s experience

    THE ESTIMATED TOTAL

    $2,000

    The party of 10 did enjoy the dancing after getting into the club Feb. 16, the weekend before Internal Revenue Service agents paid visits to two nightclubs, including LAX, run by Pure Management Group. But the Hendersons were not happy about the surprises along the way.

    They concede they had known little about the nightclub scene, but sought advice in advance from a daughter’s friend who worked at LAX. The recommendation was to get reservations.

    They said they did. When Tina Henderson made the call, she said she was told that for a party of 10, the couple would have to buy two bottles of liquor at $375 apiece for the two tables they would occupy, plus pay a 28 percent gratuity. Based on that, John Henderson said, he expected to spend about $1,000 on the evening.

    The couple arrived at 10 p.m. They found their daughter and her friends waiting in line outside the club.

    Knowing that the group had a reservation, an angry Henderson pushed his way through the line to confront a doorman standing behind a rope that blocked the entrance to the club.

    “I said, ‘What gives? We have a reservation for my daughter and her friends from school,’ and he put his hand out and said, ‘It starts here. That’s how you get in.’

    “I pulled my money clip out, and I said, ‘What do I need to do?” And he said, ‘A hundred dollars will get my attention.’?”

    Henderson said he handed over $100.

    The doorman pointed to the hostess and the maitre d’ inside the club and said, “They’re next.” He walked the group inside to the hostess’s podium. Henderson said he gave her a $50 tip to look up his reservation and gave the maitre d’ $100 to lead the group a few feet farther into the club, where they were told to wait. He kept his money clip out, thinking, “Let’s get this over with.”

    “I wanted to be treated properly and didn’t want to make a scene in front of my daughter and her friends,” he said.

    About 10:30 p.m., another host with his hand out showed up to escort the Henderson party through the club. Henderson gave him a $100 bill, and the man took the group to two tables in a corner of the club. The group was seated on an L-shaped cushioned couch surrounding two small 2-foot-high tables.

    Henderson said he voluntarily tipped the waitress $50 after she brought the group a bottle of vodka, a bottle of gin and a half-dozen cans of Red Bull the girls had requested.

    While the girls were on the dance floor, the waitress brought the bill, which the Hendersons said showed the club had charged their credit card $500 a bottle instead of $375. Complaints to a manager went nowhere.

    Soon a burly man appeared, identifying himself as the group’s “security guy.” For $100, the man told the Hendersons, he would ensure the safety of the group at the club. Henderson said he paid him. The “security guy” never returned.

    “Everybody who wants to be tipped jumps on you right away, and I believe if you’re a taker, they stick with you,” Henderson said. “If not, they move to the next table.”

    As the evening progressed, the Hendersons noticed that every time their daughter and her friends got up to dance, the busboy would cart away their drinks, which often were full. The waitress poured new ones.

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    Come with John and Tina Henderson as they take you through the powerfully expensive night they spent last month at LAX nightclub in Luxor. Warning: It is not for the faint of wallet.

    Henderson, 53, is a businessman who has lived in Las Vegas with his family since 1989. He and his wife took their daughter, Marissa, and her friends from Santa Clara University to LAX to celebrate her 21st birthday. He summed up the experience in an interview with the Sun on Thursday: “I was insulted. I felt financially raped.”

    John and Tina Henderson go over their receipts and talk about their recent experience at LAX nightclub in the Luxor, which set them back a pretty penny.

    THE BEVERAGE TAB

    $1,378

    IN THEIR WORDS

    “Everybody who wants to be tipped jumps on you right away, and I believe if you’re a taker, they stick with you. If not, they move on to the next table.” — John Henderson on the couple’s experience

    THE ESTIMATED TOTAL

    $2,000

    The party of 10 did enjoy the dancing after getting into the club Feb. 16, the weekend before Internal Revenue Service agents paid visits to two nightclubs, including LAX, run by Pure Management Group. But the Hendersons were not happy about the surprises along the way.

    They concede they had known little about the nightclub scene, but sought advice in advance from a daughter’s friend who worked at LAX. The recommendation was to get reservations.

    They said they did. When Tina Henderson made the call, she said she was told that for a party of 10, the couple would have to buy two bottles of liquor at $375 apiece for the two tables they would occupy, plus pay a 28 percent gratuity. Based on that, John Henderson said, he expected to spend about $1,000 on the evening.

    The couple arrived at 10 p.m. They found their daughter and her friends waiting in line outside the club.

    Knowing that the group had a reservation, an angry Henderson pushed his way through the line to confront a doorman standing behind a rope that blocked the entrance to the club.

    “I said, ‘What gives? We have a reservation for my daughter and her friends from school,’ and he put his hand out and said, ‘It starts here. That’s how you get in.’

    “I pulled my money clip out, and I said, ‘What do I need to do?” And he said, ‘A hundred dollars will get my attention.’?”

    Henderson said he handed over $100.

    The doorman pointed to the hostess and the maitre d’ inside the club and said, “They’re next.” He walked the group inside to the hostess’s podium. Henderson said he gave her a $50 tip to look up his reservation and gave the maitre d’ $100 to lead the group a few feet farther into the club, where they were told to wait. He kept his money clip out, thinking, “Let’s get this over with.”

    “I wanted to be treated properly and didn’t want to make a scene in front of my daughter and her friends,” he said.

    About 10:30 p.m., another host with his hand out showed up to escort the Henderson party through the club. Henderson gave him a $100 bill, and the man took the group to two tables in a corner of the club. The group was seated on an L-shaped cushioned couch surrounding two small 2-foot-high tables.

    Henderson said he voluntarily tipped the waitress $50 after she brought the group a bottle of vodka, a bottle of gin and a half-dozen cans of Red Bull the girls had requested.

    While the girls were on the dance floor, the waitress brought the bill, which the Hendersons said showed the club had charged their credit card $500 a bottle instead of $375. Complaints to a manager went nowhere.

    Soon a burly man appeared, identifying himself as the group’s “security guy.” For $100, the man told the Hendersons, he would ensure the safety of the group at the club. Henderson said he paid him. The “security guy” never returned.

    “Everybody who wants to be tipped jumps on you right away, and I believe if you’re a taker, they stick with you,” Henderson said. “If not, they move to the next table.”

    As the evening progressed, the Hendersons noticed that every time their daughter and her friends got up to dance, the busboy would cart away their drinks, which often were full. The waitress poured new ones.

     
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    Henderson said the busboy told him he had orders to “keep the booze flowing.”

    “I got the busboy by the arm and got the cocktail waitress, and I said, ‘I do not want to see you touch another drink. We’ll tell you when it’s time to pour another drink.’?”

    As the night wore on, the lines of men and women waiting for the restrooms grew long. Those who paid an attendant a tip could go to the front of the line — thereby making the wait longer for those who refused to tip. The Hendersons said their restroom tips for the night came to about $120.

    Eventually a manager showed up, and the Hendersons said he told them that because there was such a demand for tables, they needed to buy two more bottles of liquor to hold on to both of theirs. The Hendersons refused. They said the manager then brought another group to occupy one of the tables the couple thought they had reserved for the night.

    The Hendersons said they left LAX about 3 a.m. with a $1,378 tab for beverages alone. Counting the cash, the couple estimates they spent about $2,000.

    “It’s really not about the money,” Tina Henderson said. “It’s about the treatment.”

    She said she wonders how the tourists who go to LAX or other nightclubs on the Strip feel when they encounter these kinds of hidden costs.

    Pure Management referred a call from the Sun about the Hendersons’ story to the company’s public relations company, Kirvin Doak Communications.

    Kate Turner of Kirvin Doak said LAX officials didn’t find a reservation under the Hendersons’ name Feb. 16. (The Hendersons provided a copy of their credit card receipt to the Sun.) But she said the club goes to great lengths to satisfy its customers.

    “If for whatever reason that didn’t happen with this group, we’d like the opportunity to make it right with them,” she said.

    One thing John Henderson said the club should look at is the blatant way its employees solicit tips.

    “I don’t think it’s a shakedown,” his wife added. “I think they do it because they can, and because if we don’t pay, there are five people behind us who will.”

     

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    Henderson said the busboy told him he had orders to “keep the booze flowing.”

    “I got the busboy by the arm and got the cocktail waitress, and I said, ‘I do not want to see you touch another drink. We’ll tell you when it’s time to pour another drink.’?”

    As the night wore on, the lines of men and women waiting for the restrooms grew long. Those who paid an attendant a tip could go to the front of the line — thereby making the wait longer for those who refused to tip. The Hendersons said their restroom tips for the night came to about $120.

    Eventually a manager showed up, and the Hendersons said he told them that because there was such a demand for tables, they needed to buy two more bottles of liquor to hold on to both of theirs. The Hendersons refused. They said the manager then brought another group to occupy one of the tables the couple thought they had reserved for the night.

    The Hendersons said they left LAX about 3 a.m. with a $1,378 tab for beverages alone. Counting the cash, the couple estimates they spent about $2,000.

    “It’s really not about the money,” Tina Henderson said. “It’s about the treatment.”

    She said she wonders how the tourists who go to LAX or other nightclubs on the Strip feel when they encounter these kinds of hidden costs.

    Pure Management referred a call from the Sun about the Hendersons’ story to the company’s public relations company, Kirvin Doak Communications.

    Kate Turner of Kirvin Doak said LAX officials didn’t find a reservation under the Hendersons’ name Feb. 16. (The Hendersons provided a copy of their credit card receipt to the Sun.) But she said the club goes to great lengths to satisfy its customers.

    “If for whatever reason that didn’t happen with this group, we’d like the opportunity to make it right with them,” she said.

    One thing John Henderson said the club should look at is the blatant way its employees solicit tips.

    “I don’t think it’s a shakedown,” his wife added. “I think they do it because they can, and because if we don’t pay, there are five people behind us who will.”

     

     
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    Posted: Mar. 10, 2008 - 4:35 PM ET #4

    That's why you say screw nightclubs. I mean what are they really good for. You pay a ton of money on drinks and all for what maybe to get your grind on with some ho on the dance floor, who wants you to buy more drinks. Let's see what else, you wait in line forever, unless you get some special treatment, bunch of tool bags everywhere. Nightclubs suck ass in my point of view.


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    That's why you say screw nightclubs. I mean what are they really good for. You pay a ton of money on drinks and all for what maybe to get your grind on with some ho on the dance floor, who wants you to buy more drinks. Let's see what else, you wait in line forever, unless you get some special treatment, bunch of tool bags everywhere. Nightclubs suck ass in my point of view.


     
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    Posted: Mar. 10, 2008 - 4:44 PM ET #5

    They took away my fake I.D. at the MGM club, dont know what it's called
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    They took away my fake I.D. at the MGM club, dont know what it's called
     
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    Posted: Mar. 10, 2008 - 11:44 PM ET #6

    I would of told the lunk head "security guy" to go fuck himself  cold day in hell when I'd tip one of those tools...  Love that they got the  sun involved hope they don't relent on these assholes...
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    I would of told the lunk head "security guy" to go fuck himself  cold day in hell when I'd tip one of those tools...  Love that they got the  sun involved hope they don't relent on these assholes...
     
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    Posted: Mar. 11, 2008 - 12:37 AM ET #7

    I stay away as well...that is a story.
     
    once you bring it to the mgmt's attention about overcharging, they use the excuse that "he has been drinking and cannot remember"
     
    its a shame
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    I stay away as well...that is a story.
     
    once you bring it to the mgmt's attention about overcharging, they use the excuse that "he has been drinking and cannot remember"
     
    its a shame
     
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    This is common with 90% high traffic dance and strip clubs from NYC to LA. The problem is suckers like the Hendersons actually pay which sets up a market for this kind of shit. If people quit tossing "bribes" like this the staff wouldn't expect them.

    As a general rule you should either know someone or have money to drop when going to a big name spot. As locals they should have known the type of shit that goes with new strip joints even if they aren't in the club scene. If they have gone to Rum Jungle or Tao or Blush they probably wouldn't have ran into so many problems. But as soon as they gave the bounce $100 they were made marks.
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    This is common with 90% high traffic dance and strip clubs from NYC to LA. The problem is suckers like the Hendersons actually pay which sets up a market for this kind of shit. If people quit tossing "bribes" like this the staff wouldn't expect them.

    As a general rule you should either know someone or have money to drop when going to a big name spot. As locals they should have known the type of shit that goes with new strip joints even if they aren't in the club scene. If they have gone to Rum Jungle or Tao or Blush they probably wouldn't have ran into so many problems. But as soon as they gave the bounce $100 they were made marks.
     
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    The reason you go to an "ultra club" is because your GF wants you to take her, you have cash in the bank to blow (as gamblers I hope this is very true),  and you want to hang out with hot girls who LOVE clubs. I've spent $10k in a 5 day trip to Vegas which included the $2k I made in the Man Bay book. What did I spend on? O, Ka, $100 2 person dinners, clubs, drinks, Phantom of the Opera, The producers, and suite costs.  
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    The reason you go to an "ultra club" is because your GF wants you to take her, you have cash in the bank to blow (as gamblers I hope this is very true),  and you want to hang out with hot girls who LOVE clubs. I've spent $10k in a 5 day trip to Vegas which included the $2k I made in the Man Bay book. What did I spend on? O, Ka, $100 2 person dinners, clubs, drinks, Phantom of the Opera, The producers, and suite costs.  
     
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    Posted: Mar. 11, 2008 - 12:58 PM ET #10

    LVWAR,
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    Posted: Mar. 11, 2008 - 1:18 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by a7a8a9a1:

    They took away my fake I.D. at the MGM club, dont know what it's called
    They have two.....Tabu and Studio 54
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    Quote Originally Posted by a7a8a9a1:

    They took away my fake I.D. at the MGM club, dont know what it's called
    They have two.....Tabu and Studio 54
     
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    Posted: Mar. 11, 2008 - 11:29 PM ET #12

    glad we didnt waste our cash there last week.
     
    good story though.
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    glad we didnt waste our cash there last week.
     
    good story though.
     
     
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    Posted: Mar. 18, 2008 - 1:25 PM ET #13

    The guy first states that he expected to spend about a grand for the night, that's mistake number one.  10 people at an 'ultra club' with 2 reserved tables drinking even moderately will run through $1000 quickly.  They were there for 4.5 hours to celebrate a 21st birthday, I'm sure they went through their fair share of liquor.
    Mistake number two was him pushing his way to the front of the line and handing out cash like an ATM.  If his daughter and/or friends were hot, they were the ones that needed to talk their way in.  Much easier for hot chicks to pull it off rather that a 50-something angry tool.
    Third, he gave some random guy 100 bucks to ensure their safety at the club!?!?!?  What he really did was allow that guy to score some more blow.
    The dude has lived in Vegas for 18 years, he should have known better.  LAX is probably not completely innocent, but the guy almost asked for it.
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    The guy first states that he expected to spend about a grand for the night, that's mistake number one.  10 people at an 'ultra club' with 2 reserved tables drinking even moderately will run through $1000 quickly.  They were there for 4.5 hours to celebrate a 21st birthday, I'm sure they went through their fair share of liquor.
    Mistake number two was him pushing his way to the front of the line and handing out cash like an ATM.  If his daughter and/or friends were hot, they were the ones that needed to talk their way in.  Much easier for hot chicks to pull it off rather that a 50-something angry tool.
    Third, he gave some random guy 100 bucks to ensure their safety at the club!?!?!?  What he really did was allow that guy to score some more blow.
    The dude has lived in Vegas for 18 years, he should have known better.  LAX is probably not completely innocent, but the guy almost asked for it.
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