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    Working at a Vegas sports book/rules and regulations

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    Posted: Apr. 18, 2016 - 5:20 PM ET #1

    Anyone here have any experience working at a Vegas sports book? perhaps as a ticket writer in particular. Is it easy/hard to work your way up?

    If you do work for a sports book, does that casino/book allow you to gamble there? or would you have to go to a different book for that?

    thanks fellas
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    Anyone here have any experience working at a Vegas sports book? perhaps as a ticket writer in particular. Is it easy/hard to work your way up?

    If you do work for a sports book, does that casino/book allow you to gamble there? or would you have to go to a different book for that?

    thanks fellas
     
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    to answer your questions; 1) it doesn't take a rocket scientist to be a 'ticket writer' at any Nevada SportsBook, (I can train a monkey to do the job) 2) you can gamble anywhere your heart desires, regardless if you work at the same location or not; casino, sportsbook, ect

    btw: you don't work your way up from a ticket writer to an assistant manager, or sportsbook manager, they hire these people when a position is open, people with experience, not ticket writers who have been on the job, two, three years, pushing buttons. getting periodic raises as their perks, nothing more.....a very boring, and low paying job connected to the gaming industry, much like a comparison to a clerk at a 7-11 convenience store, you take in thousands, and get paid in peanuts....

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    to answer your questions; 1) it doesn't take a rocket scientist to be a 'ticket writer' at any Nevada SportsBook, (I can train a monkey to do the job) 2) you can gamble anywhere your heart desires, regardless if you work at the same location or not; casino, sportsbook, ect

    btw: you don't work your way up from a ticket writer to an assistant manager, or sportsbook manager, they hire these people when a position is open, people with experience, not ticket writers who have been on the job, two, three years, pushing buttons. getting periodic raises as their perks, nothing more.....a very boring, and low paying job connected to the gaming industry, much like a comparison to a clerk at a 7-11 convenience store, you take in thousands, and get paid in peanuts....

     
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    Posted: Apr. 19, 2016 - 2:12 PM ET #3

    You're a service worker with all the accompanying bs low pay and hours but you are not regarded as performing a task that is tip-worthy.
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    You're a service worker with all the accompanying bs low pay and hours but you are not regarded as performing a task that is tip-worthy.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sports_Network:

    to answer your questions; 1) it doesn't take a rocket scientist to be a 'ticket writer' at any Nevada SportsBook, (I can train a monkey to do the job) 2) you can gamble anywhere your heart desires, regardless if you work at the same location or not; casino, sportsbook, ect

    btw: you don't work your way up from a ticket writer to an assistant manager, or sportsbook manager, they hire these people when a position is open, people with experience, not ticket writers who have been on the job, two, three years, pushing buttons. getting periodic raises as their perks, nothing more.....a very boring, and low paying job connected to the gaming industry, much like a comparison to a clerk at a 7-11 convenience store, you take in thousands, and get paid in peanuts....


    Appreciate the response. What would be an attainable job in Vegas which would then allow one to work up to an assistant manager and eventually sportsbook manager? 

    As you said they hire when a position is open and only those with experience. Those who have the experience have to get it somewhere right? 

    thanks man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sports_Network:

    to answer your questions; 1) it doesn't take a rocket scientist to be a 'ticket writer' at any Nevada SportsBook, (I can train a monkey to do the job) 2) you can gamble anywhere your heart desires, regardless if you work at the same location or not; casino, sportsbook, ect

    btw: you don't work your way up from a ticket writer to an assistant manager, or sportsbook manager, they hire these people when a position is open, people with experience, not ticket writers who have been on the job, two, three years, pushing buttons. getting periodic raises as their perks, nothing more.....a very boring, and low paying job connected to the gaming industry, much like a comparison to a clerk at a 7-11 convenience store, you take in thousands, and get paid in peanuts....


    Appreciate the response. What would be an attainable job in Vegas which would then allow one to work up to an assistant manager and eventually sportsbook manager? 

    As you said they hire when a position is open and only those with experience. Those who have the experience have to get it somewhere right? 

    thanks man.
     
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    experience is attained by education, and training at a sportsbook entry position through company human resources, first call, assistant managers, you understand the software application, and under the tutorship of the manager, or director, you move forward to manage your own book when openings occur; an excellent place to start would be Cantor Gaming, or William Hill, both are innovators, work for either one, and you can basically write your own profile to work anywhere in Nevada.
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    experience is attained by education, and training at a sportsbook entry position through company human resources, first call, assistant managers, you understand the software application, and under the tutorship of the manager, or director, you move forward to manage your own book when openings occur; an excellent place to start would be Cantor Gaming, or William Hill, both are innovators, work for either one, and you can basically write your own profile to work anywhere in Nevada.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sports_Network:

    experience is attained by education, and training at a sportsbook entry position through company human resources, first call, assistant managers, you understand the software application, and under the tutorship of the manager, or director, you move forward to manage your own book when openings occur; an excellent place to start would be Cantor Gaming, or William Hill, both are innovators, work for either one, and you can basically write your own profile to work anywhere in Nevada.

    Thanks again for the info. I'm def going to look into William Hill and Cantor Gaming. I have 2 more questions for you if you don't mind.

    I'm not currently residing in Nevada, but I can relocate if needed. Aside from looking online through sites like Indeed and others, what's the best way to find a job in either place you mentioned. Also, if all else fails, is it at least worth it to take a position as ticket writer to at least get close and try to earn another position after? 
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    Quote Originally Posted by sports_Network:

    experience is attained by education, and training at a sportsbook entry position through company human resources, first call, assistant managers, you understand the software application, and under the tutorship of the manager, or director, you move forward to manage your own book when openings occur; an excellent place to start would be Cantor Gaming, or William Hill, both are innovators, work for either one, and you can basically write your own profile to work anywhere in Nevada.

    Thanks again for the info. I'm def going to look into William Hill and Cantor Gaming. I have 2 more questions for you if you don't mind.

    I'm not currently residing in Nevada, but I can relocate if needed. Aside from looking online through sites like Indeed and others, what's the best way to find a job in either place you mentioned. Also, if all else fails, is it at least worth it to take a position as ticket writer to at least get close and try to earn another position after? 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 22, 2016 - 7:53 AM ET #7

    absolutely.....go for it, there's always a demand for cashiers.. the best to you, and your quest of pursuance to the gaming industry. take care

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    absolutely.....go for it, there's always a demand for cashiers.. the best to you, and your quest of pursuance to the gaming industry. take care

     
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    Posted: Apr. 22, 2016 - 10:29 AM ET #8

    I worked at Caesars Palace sportsbook
    Easiest to get hired in as a Temp during football season,
    where they need people very badly/
    If they like you, you will be offered a job.
    You will not get promoted to manager, dont get your hopes up.
    If i remember correct.
    Also they will not let you gamble"table games"in the same property.
    If you are a sportsbook ticket writer, besides the poker room
    Everyone else in casino"employee" can bet sports or play poker
    Also you will be taking not only sports but horses so if you dont know start learning different horse calls "exacta, trifecta, wheel, key, daily double, pick6,etc" and different track names

    Will also have to have drug screen and backgound/police record
    expect just above minimum wage plus tips."tip pool cut from hours worked" and find out tipping policy for hrs worked.
    I got screwed out of $80 because they asked if i wanted to leave 1 hr early, wasn't told what policy was until i asked after this happened
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    I worked at Caesars Palace sportsbook
    Easiest to get hired in as a Temp during football season,
    where they need people very badly/
    If they like you, you will be offered a job.
    You will not get promoted to manager, dont get your hopes up.
    If i remember correct.
    Also they will not let you gamble"table games"in the same property.
    If you are a sportsbook ticket writer, besides the poker room
    Everyone else in casino"employee" can bet sports or play poker
    Also you will be taking not only sports but horses so if you dont know start learning different horse calls "exacta, trifecta, wheel, key, daily double, pick6,etc" and different track names

    Will also have to have drug screen and backgound/police record
    expect just above minimum wage plus tips."tip pool cut from hours worked" and find out tipping policy for hrs worked.
    I got screwed out of $80 because they asked if i wanted to leave 1 hr early, wasn't told what policy was until i asked after this happened
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by dbartoletbet:

    I worked at Caesars Palace sportsbook
    Easiest to get hired in as a Temp during football season,
    where they need people very badly/
    If they like you, you will be offered a job.
    You will not get promoted to manager, dont get your hopes up.
    If i remember correct.
    Also they will not let you gamble"table games"in the same property.
    If you are a sportsbook ticket writer, besides the poker room
    Everyone else in casino"employee" can bet sports or play poker
    Also you will be taking not only sports but horses so if you dont know start learning different horse calls "exacta, trifecta, wheel, key, daily double, pick6,etc" and different track names

    Will also have to have drug screen and backgound/police record
    expect just above minimum wage plus tips."tip pool cut from hours worked" and find out tipping policy for hrs worked.
    I got screwed out of $80 because they asked if i wanted to leave 1 hr early, wasn't told what policy was until i asked after this happened
    Was that the tip pool from race/sports or the entire shift?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dbartoletbet:

    I worked at Caesars Palace sportsbook
    Easiest to get hired in as a Temp during football season,
    where they need people very badly/
    If they like you, you will be offered a job.
    You will not get promoted to manager, dont get your hopes up.
    If i remember correct.
    Also they will not let you gamble"table games"in the same property.
    If you are a sportsbook ticket writer, besides the poker room
    Everyone else in casino"employee" can bet sports or play poker
    Also you will be taking not only sports but horses so if you dont know start learning different horse calls "exacta, trifecta, wheel, key, daily double, pick6,etc" and different track names

    Will also have to have drug screen and backgound/police record
    expect just above minimum wage plus tips."tip pool cut from hours worked" and find out tipping policy for hrs worked.
    I got screwed out of $80 because they asked if i wanted to leave 1 hr early, wasn't told what policy was until i asked after this happened
    Was that the tip pool from race/sports or the entire shift?
     
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    Posted: Apr. 23, 2016 - 7:58 AM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by 666LES:

    Was that the tip pool from race/sports or the entire shift?

    The tip pool was based off the whole week total and on the cuts
    Just from sportsbook/race/keno ticket writers get nothing off floor
    floor has their own pool and poker room dealer keeps their own tips
    I dont remember exactly but like this hrs for 2 week period
    0-23.99 hr .25 cut  (this is where it got me)
    24-59.99 hr .5 cut
    60+ full cut 1
    and vacation counts toward the cut
    so if 20 people might be at
    12 full cut
    6 half cut
    2 .25 cut 
    total 15.5 cuts then take total say(to make it easy)
    $1550 so a cut is $100
    so you get 100, 50 or 25
    I asked for a copy of the tipping policy and the on older lady that ran it got very defensive about questioning her about it, I just asked for a copy so I knew the policy.
    And there were several non-ticket writers that got cuts i believe
    back office and management I think 
    i guess i could of looked at the sign out sheet to pickup your envelope but never thought about it.
    We got paid every 2 week so you would get tips one week and payroll the following week and tips were recorded and taxed on check 
    And if it was a special event, like Superbowl, tripple crown, March madness , etc, the brought in extra ticket writers from other areas and that day was paid out in separate envelope to people that worked  it. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by 666LES:

    Was that the tip pool from race/sports or the entire shift?

    The tip pool was based off the whole week total and on the cuts
    Just from sportsbook/race/keno ticket writers get nothing off floor
    floor has their own pool and poker room dealer keeps their own tips
    I dont remember exactly but like this hrs for 2 week period
    0-23.99 hr .25 cut  (this is where it got me)
    24-59.99 hr .5 cut
    60+ full cut 1
    and vacation counts toward the cut
    so if 20 people might be at
    12 full cut
    6 half cut
    2 .25 cut 
    total 15.5 cuts then take total say(to make it easy)
    $1550 so a cut is $100
    so you get 100, 50 or 25
    I asked for a copy of the tipping policy and the on older lady that ran it got very defensive about questioning her about it, I just asked for a copy so I knew the policy.
    And there were several non-ticket writers that got cuts i believe
    back office and management I think 
    i guess i could of looked at the sign out sheet to pickup your envelope but never thought about it.
    We got paid every 2 week so you would get tips one week and payroll the following week and tips were recorded and taxed on check 
    And if it was a special event, like Superbowl, tripple crown, March madness , etc, the brought in extra ticket writers from other areas and that day was paid out in separate envelope to people that worked  it. 

     
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    Posted: Apr. 25, 2016 - 2:11 PM ET #11

    I use to live in Vegas and I thought race/sports were like poker and you were on your own regarding tips.Race will get their tips esp. on big payouts and keno will also esp. if they are working the floor but the sports writer must be at the bottom of the pole regarding tips.
      I lived near 1 of the older propertys and I treated the book like my living room and talked to a lot of dealers.They explained that a worker(as a player) could bet on anything where the employee didn't touch anything that resulted in a decision,so that means slots,horses,and sports, (keno ???).
      Talking with the dealers from the tables I got the impression that there were 2 kinds of players.Those that didn't tip and those that didn't tip enough.Some of the dealers thought that if you made $100 on a crap game the right tip would be about $50 because they 'helped' you make the money. Good Luck db.
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    I use to live in Vegas and I thought race/sports were like poker and you were on your own regarding tips.Race will get their tips esp. on big payouts and keno will also esp. if they are working the floor but the sports writer must be at the bottom of the pole regarding tips.
      I lived near 1 of the older propertys and I treated the book like my living room and talked to a lot of dealers.They explained that a worker(as a player) could bet on anything where the employee didn't touch anything that resulted in a decision,so that means slots,horses,and sports, (keno ???).
      Talking with the dealers from the tables I got the impression that there were 2 kinds of players.Those that didn't tip and those that didn't tip enough.Some of the dealers thought that if you made $100 on a crap game the right tip would be about $50 because they 'helped' you make the money. Good Luck db.
     
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    From what I understood anyone in casino could bet in sportsbook except ticket writers in the book, even if they were off duty.
    In case the heard or knew something about the money or line they might of overheard. And as a ticket writer you wasnt even suppose to bet  at any book in the family, so Caesars group could bet at any of there properties. And when hired you were suppose to turn in your players card for the Casino so you could be swiping your card in case they didnt give you one to get credit.
    The poker room and some of the "model" dealers got to keep there own tips, evenyone else had there own pool.
    Just at Caesars the race/sportsboo was together with keno.
    I wish we kept our own, I use to have a line of people waiting for me when others were just sitting there doing nothing.
    A lot of ticket writers would get frustrated a lot with people no knowing how to bet or their options. I would take the time to explain any/everything they wanted, getting paid to talk sports and betting , all day everyday, and shared some info about drink tickets and some other stuff which is public knowledge that people don't realize or understand. Some just tipped 20-40-80 cents but that was like every horse race 3,4,5 guys every 10 minutes it adds up quick, sometimes a few bucks or more, depending, some would even buy me drinks(which I could not refuse nor drink until off duty)
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    From what I understood anyone in casino could bet in sportsbook except ticket writers in the book, even if they were off duty.
    In case the heard or knew something about the money or line they might of overheard. And as a ticket writer you wasnt even suppose to bet  at any book in the family, so Caesars group could bet at any of there properties. And when hired you were suppose to turn in your players card for the Casino so you could be swiping your card in case they didnt give you one to get credit.
    The poker room and some of the "model" dealers got to keep there own tips, evenyone else had there own pool.
    Just at Caesars the race/sportsboo was together with keno.
    I wish we kept our own, I use to have a line of people waiting for me when others were just sitting there doing nothing.
    A lot of ticket writers would get frustrated a lot with people no knowing how to bet or their options. I would take the time to explain any/everything they wanted, getting paid to talk sports and betting , all day everyday, and shared some info about drink tickets and some other stuff which is public knowledge that people don't realize or understand. Some just tipped 20-40-80 cents but that was like every horse race 3,4,5 guys every 10 minutes it adds up quick, sometimes a few bucks or more, depending, some would even buy me drinks(which I could not refuse nor drink until off duty)
     
     
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    you're talking horse players..no comparison to the sports player, two different breeds, sharing one common denominator.winning money Gambling..the derby's around the corner .Who do you like?

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