Ive been looking at the lines quite a bit over the last couple days and Cruz line has steadily increased, at my book pinnacle it opened around -120 to now it is over -179 (gradually increased each day), Silva opened around -163 but just in the past 24 hours it has gone up to -179. Bader went from around -470 to now around -577.. Not sure about the other fights but i was mainly looking at those 3 and the Kim vs Condit fight which barely moved, kim moved from around -118 to now -121
So everyone and their mom are betting cruz, i got him at -120 then added more at -148. I also bet on Kim. Hopefully the public is right on these matches, and yes it would be the public because max bet for MMA is very small to other sports so sharps wont be raising the lines very much like they can do in the other pro sports like NBA and especially NFL..
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Ive been looking at the lines quite a bit over the last couple days and Cruz line has steadily increased, at my book pinnacle it opened around -120 to now it is over -179 (gradually increased each day), Silva opened around -163 but just in the past 24 hours it has gone up to -179. Bader went from around -470 to now around -577.. Not sure about the other fights but i was mainly looking at those 3 and the Kim vs Condit fight which barely moved, kim moved from around -118 to now -121
So everyone and their mom are betting cruz, i got him at -120 then added more at -148. I also bet on Kim. Hopefully the public is right on these matches, and yes it would be the public because max bet for MMA is very small to other sports so sharps wont be raising the lines very much like they can do in the other pro sports like NBA and especially NFL..
Ive been looking at the lines quite a bit over the last couple days and Cruz line has steadily increased, at my book pinnacle it opened around -120 to now it is over -179 (gradually increased each day), Silva opened around -163 but just in the past 24 hours it has gone up to -179. Bader went from around -470 to now around -577.. Not sure about the other fights but i was mainly looking at those 3 and the Kim vs Condit fight which barely moved, kim moved from around -118 to now -121
So everyone and their mom are betting cruz, i got him at -120 then added more at -148. I also bet on Kim. Hopefully the public is right on these matches, and yes it would be the public because max bet for MMA is very small to other sports so sharps wont be raising the lines very much like they can do in the other pro sports like NBA and especially NFL..
I won't get in to a long debate, but you couldn't be further from the actual truth. Books respect wiseguys and sharps no matter what their risk amount is. Your rich uncle could come into a casino and get 250K on a game and they may move the line half a point. Meanwhile a sharp they respect walks in and can put 3-5K on the game and you will see it move 1-2 points.
Your logic sounds great, but if the book likes the line it opened with, it will take a shit ton of public money to move a fight like Cruz 60 cents on the dollar. Most of that move was respect for sharp money.
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Quote Originally Posted by MoneyShot:
Ive been looking at the lines quite a bit over the last couple days and Cruz line has steadily increased, at my book pinnacle it opened around -120 to now it is over -179 (gradually increased each day), Silva opened around -163 but just in the past 24 hours it has gone up to -179. Bader went from around -470 to now around -577.. Not sure about the other fights but i was mainly looking at those 3 and the Kim vs Condit fight which barely moved, kim moved from around -118 to now -121
So everyone and their mom are betting cruz, i got him at -120 then added more at -148. I also bet on Kim. Hopefully the public is right on these matches, and yes it would be the public because max bet for MMA is very small to other sports so sharps wont be raising the lines very much like they can do in the other pro sports like NBA and especially NFL..
I won't get in to a long debate, but you couldn't be further from the actual truth. Books respect wiseguys and sharps no matter what their risk amount is. Your rich uncle could come into a casino and get 250K on a game and they may move the line half a point. Meanwhile a sharp they respect walks in and can put 3-5K on the game and you will see it move 1-2 points.
Your logic sounds great, but if the book likes the line it opened with, it will take a shit ton of public money to move a fight like Cruz 60 cents on the dollar. Most of that move was respect for sharp money.
I won't get in to a long debate, but you couldn't be further from the actual truth. Books respect wiseguys and sharps no matter what their risk amount is. Your rich uncle could come into a casino and get 250K on a game and they may move the line half a point. Meanwhile a sharp they respect walks in and can put 3-5K on the game and you will see it move 1-2 points.
Your logic sounds great, but if the book likes the line it opened with, it will take a shit ton of public money to move a fight like Cruz 60 cents on the dollar. Most of that move was respect for sharp money.
you are a bit wrong there... mma is different. Mostly books are looking to take even money on both sides if they can. i dont want to get into a huge debate with you here but ive read books on this stuff and you are not correct. Sharps wont be influencing a line by betting 1K on mma, the max bets on mma are not high, and if a book respects a sharp, they might even lower their max bet and maybe even adjust hte line a tad but wont adjust it massively like you say. The public betting was on cruz...
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Quote Originally Posted by WiseGuys-R-Us:
I won't get in to a long debate, but you couldn't be further from the actual truth. Books respect wiseguys and sharps no matter what their risk amount is. Your rich uncle could come into a casino and get 250K on a game and they may move the line half a point. Meanwhile a sharp they respect walks in and can put 3-5K on the game and you will see it move 1-2 points.
Your logic sounds great, but if the book likes the line it opened with, it will take a shit ton of public money to move a fight like Cruz 60 cents on the dollar. Most of that move was respect for sharp money.
you are a bit wrong there... mma is different. Mostly books are looking to take even money on both sides if they can. i dont want to get into a huge debate with you here but ive read books on this stuff and you are not correct. Sharps wont be influencing a line by betting 1K on mma, the max bets on mma are not high, and if a book respects a sharp, they might even lower their max bet and maybe even adjust hte line a tad but wont adjust it massively like you say. The public betting was on cruz...
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