notice how all the props favor mcmann fight going similiar to how tate vs rousey 2 played out 2 months ago? What did the props look like going into rousey's last fight? i think it was close to even odds minus some juice that the fight would start the 2nd round.
This fight to me is going to be quick and everyone is pinned on the fact that tate got into the 3rd round. I'm not going to let that cloud my mind. I'm still going to remember how fast rousey can get into her favorite positions and go for the finish in the first round. I would not be surprised if rousey decided not to go for an armbar for this fight stoppage in the first round. Remember how she kept punching carmouche but not hard enough to get a stoppage or do any damage? I think she can do the same thing but be in a lot better of a position and get a stoppage. +175 for a first round rousey win to me is a good deal.
ever since the fight got announced i have been studying and thinking about sara mcmann. Keep in mind that i do not like rousey at all, i think she is the worst champion among all of them in the ufc, i don't like her personality, i don't like the type of people that she hangs with, and everything that people found out about her during TUF, i already knew well before the show. In other words, watching the show didn't even make me not like her anymore than i already had. for all the hate everyone gave her during and after the show, i always said that they were too late to realize everything.
Anyways, there are a few things that stand out about sara mcmann to me and i am not impressed. Her last fight with sheila gaff showed that she was kinda slow at getting her down. It looked like she had some trouble against the cage at first and the fight was broken up and restarted in the center. Keep in mind that gaff is a 125er and this makes me think that rousey is going to ragdoll her and get what she wants against the cage. mcmann striking is not good enough to do anything and rousey's chin is good enough. A lot of people would say that tate kept tagging her and that's true, but rousey is the type that can take harder punches to get the position that she wants. So if you're going to hit her, you better hit her really good and hard with ko power, but nobody is going to be doing this in ufc women for a while.
To me sara mcmann is not good enough on the ground. She had top position in a grappling match vs shayna baszler in 2009 and lost by submission. I know it was a long time ago but it still counts for a lot, especially due to the fact that rousey is very very good on her back. The last and final straw that i found very interesting are a pair of youtube videos by BJJScout. If you haven't seen it yet, it is very worthwhile, the guy also managed to give excellent insight on the gsp/hendricks fight too.
Why isn't sara mcmann that great of a grappler? bjjscout talks about sara mcmann's toes, why can't she bend them to be quicker at advancing position while she's grounding and pounding? i think it might have to do with the car accident she had in 2004 where one of the things that was confirmed she received was a broken arm.
When asked by a reporter during her interview scrum whom she brought in to help train for this fight, she was secretive about it. Why even say that you've been training with marcelo garcia then? yeah she probably brought in shitty judo fighters that nobody has ever even heard of.
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notice how all the props favor mcmann fight going similiar to how tate vs rousey 2 played out 2 months ago? What did the props look like going into rousey's last fight? i think it was close to even odds minus some juice that the fight would start the 2nd round.
This fight to me is going to be quick and everyone is pinned on the fact that tate got into the 3rd round. I'm not going to let that cloud my mind. I'm still going to remember how fast rousey can get into her favorite positions and go for the finish in the first round. I would not be surprised if rousey decided not to go for an armbar for this fight stoppage in the first round. Remember how she kept punching carmouche but not hard enough to get a stoppage or do any damage? I think she can do the same thing but be in a lot better of a position and get a stoppage. +175 for a first round rousey win to me is a good deal.
ever since the fight got announced i have been studying and thinking about sara mcmann. Keep in mind that i do not like rousey at all, i think she is the worst champion among all of them in the ufc, i don't like her personality, i don't like the type of people that she hangs with, and everything that people found out about her during TUF, i already knew well before the show. In other words, watching the show didn't even make me not like her anymore than i already had. for all the hate everyone gave her during and after the show, i always said that they were too late to realize everything.
Anyways, there are a few things that stand out about sara mcmann to me and i am not impressed. Her last fight with sheila gaff showed that she was kinda slow at getting her down. It looked like she had some trouble against the cage at first and the fight was broken up and restarted in the center. Keep in mind that gaff is a 125er and this makes me think that rousey is going to ragdoll her and get what she wants against the cage. mcmann striking is not good enough to do anything and rousey's chin is good enough. A lot of people would say that tate kept tagging her and that's true, but rousey is the type that can take harder punches to get the position that she wants. So if you're going to hit her, you better hit her really good and hard with ko power, but nobody is going to be doing this in ufc women for a while.
To me sara mcmann is not good enough on the ground. She had top position in a grappling match vs shayna baszler in 2009 and lost by submission. I know it was a long time ago but it still counts for a lot, especially due to the fact that rousey is very very good on her back. The last and final straw that i found very interesting are a pair of youtube videos by BJJScout. If you haven't seen it yet, it is very worthwhile, the guy also managed to give excellent insight on the gsp/hendricks fight too.
Why isn't sara mcmann that great of a grappler? bjjscout talks about sara mcmann's toes, why can't she bend them to be quicker at advancing position while she's grounding and pounding? i think it might have to do with the car accident she had in 2004 where one of the things that was confirmed she received was a broken arm.
When asked by a reporter during her interview scrum whom she brought in to help train for this fight, she was secretive about it. Why even say that you've been training with marcelo garcia then? yeah she probably brought in shitty judo fighters that nobody has ever even heard of.
Kinda slow at getting a takedown? She got one first 3 seconds of the fight
from sheila gaff being stupid by rushing like she did? i'm talking about being near the cage for a long time before the referee restarted the fight in the center. Of course afterwards she did manage to get the takedown into crucifix but i just expected a silver medalist to do way better than that, let alone having the referee butting in.
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Quote Originally Posted by gsprush:
Kinda slow at getting a takedown? She got one first 3 seconds of the fight
from sheila gaff being stupid by rushing like she did? i'm talking about being near the cage for a long time before the referee restarted the fight in the center. Of course afterwards she did manage to get the takedown into crucifix but i just expected a silver medalist to do way better than that, let alone having the referee butting in.
before i went to sleep last night, i watched the dana white scrum. He was talking about mcmann's arms/hands and how big they are. He also mentioned how rogan put his hands around her shoulder or whatever and how muscular/etc they felt. Would something like this not scare you into thinking that a first round finish won't happen from ronda rousey? Well that's why a +175 is called a gamble. As long as i'm taking this gamble at least you can get a good return on this investment considering all of rousey's fights have ended in the first round except the last one.
I'm not scared of sara mcmann's arms and hands being big.
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before i went to sleep last night, i watched the dana white scrum. He was talking about mcmann's arms/hands and how big they are. He also mentioned how rogan put his hands around her shoulder or whatever and how muscular/etc they felt. Would something like this not scare you into thinking that a first round finish won't happen from ronda rousey? Well that's why a +175 is called a gamble. As long as i'm taking this gamble at least you can get a good return on this investment considering all of rousey's fights have ended in the first round except the last one.
I'm not scared of sara mcmann's arms and hands being big.
I feel a lot like the OP. Rousey Is a much better fighter, McMann is a good fighter too but simply put Rousey is better I would not want to fight either of them.
Rousey has incredible control of her Judo McMann not so much. I think as a person I would like McMann more because of her sportsmanship. but really Rowdy Rousey is the better fighter and she is playing for keeps. Their 3 round fight was impressive though. I mean, Wow! That was some explosive entertainment that makes me want to see more and more.
After their fight I would place money money on Rowdy to win any fights right now, But time and time again I thought McMann was done and she found her way out of it.
It's was a weird thing and it give me mixed emotions, I was cheering for Mcmann but I'd definitely betting on Rousey for the win. I honestly was surprised to see it went 3 rounds.
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I feel a lot like the OP. Rousey Is a much better fighter, McMann is a good fighter too but simply put Rousey is better I would not want to fight either of them.
Rousey has incredible control of her Judo McMann not so much. I think as a person I would like McMann more because of her sportsmanship. but really Rowdy Rousey is the better fighter and she is playing for keeps. Their 3 round fight was impressive though. I mean, Wow! That was some explosive entertainment that makes me want to see more and more.
After their fight I would place money money on Rowdy to win any fights right now, But time and time again I thought McMann was done and she found her way out of it.
It's was a weird thing and it give me mixed emotions, I was cheering for Mcmann but I'd definitely betting on Rousey for the win. I honestly was surprised to see it went 3 rounds.
I feel a lot like the OP. Rousey Is a much better fighter, McMann is a good fighter too but simply put Rousey is better I would not want to fight either of them.
Rousey has incredible control of her Judo McMann not so much. I think as a person I would like McMann more because of her sportsmanship. but really Rowdy Rousey is the better fighter and she is playing for keeps. Their 3 round fight was impressive though. I mean, Wow! That was some explosive entertainment that makes me want to see more and more.
After their fight I would place money money on Rowdy to win any fights right now, But time and time again I thought McMann was done and she found her way out of it.
It's was a weird thing and it give me mixed emotions, I was cheering for Mcmann but I'd definitely betting on Rousey for the win. I honestly was surprised to see it went 3 rounds.
yeah did you know that bj penn once walked in to a song by gnarls barkley? it was kinda mixed in with another song in the beginning by israel kamakawiwo'ole but then here in this youtube video link that i'm providing for you, a guy basically makes fun of the bj penn song, are you a fan of bj penn?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRAOWepVplw
some countries might have restrictions to the above link that i'm posting, but the name of the song is called crack makes me crazy
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Quote Originally Posted by Zaphod:
I feel a lot like the OP. Rousey Is a much better fighter, McMann is a good fighter too but simply put Rousey is better I would not want to fight either of them.
Rousey has incredible control of her Judo McMann not so much. I think as a person I would like McMann more because of her sportsmanship. but really Rowdy Rousey is the better fighter and she is playing for keeps. Their 3 round fight was impressive though. I mean, Wow! That was some explosive entertainment that makes me want to see more and more.
After their fight I would place money money on Rowdy to win any fights right now, But time and time again I thought McMann was done and she found her way out of it.
It's was a weird thing and it give me mixed emotions, I was cheering for Mcmann but I'd definitely betting on Rousey for the win. I honestly was surprised to see it went 3 rounds.
yeah did you know that bj penn once walked in to a song by gnarls barkley? it was kinda mixed in with another song in the beginning by israel kamakawiwo'ole but then here in this youtube video link that i'm providing for you, a guy basically makes fun of the bj penn song, are you a fan of bj penn?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRAOWepVplw
some countries might have restrictions to the above link that i'm posting, but the name of the song is called crack makes me crazy
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