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    Posted: Apr. 19, 2011 - 4:50 PM ET #1

    One of the things I track and project is called offensive e.r.a. Just as pitchers have an e.r.a, so do offenses. This is what the MLB teams are accomplishing to date versus right handed starters, projected to probable output versus the average right handed starter. Sometimes very surprising, sometimes very revealing, as teams do not perform the same regardless of whether the opponent is right or left handed. Sometimes guys are disappointed that a certain starter is not getting the day off, when in fact it may be an offensive move by the manager. Remember, this is an era, so if the opponent starter goes 6 innings and is of average quality, that team should score about 2/3 of the projected offensive era in 6 innings. Every game is different (or there would be no gambling) but any measure of productivity is worthy of attention. Lefties to follow, BUT, results and projections are not as solid versus lefties yet, since most teams have only seen 2 to 4 this early in the season. As teams reach 15 games versus each, lefty and righty, the numbers become much more reliable.

































    NY Yankees
    San Francisco
    Texas
    Colorado
    Ch White Sox
    St Louis
    Boston
    Arizona
    Florida
    Houston
    Pittsburgh
    Philadelphia
    Baltimore
    Cincinnati
    Atlanta
    Milwaukee
    Cleveland
    LA Angels
    Ch Cubs
    Oakland
    Washington
    Kansas City
    NY Mets
    Minnesota
    Toronto
    Detroit
    Tampa Bay
    San Diego
    LA Dodgers
    Seattle


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    Now and then even a BLIND squirrel can find an acorn
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    One of the things I track and project is called offensive e.r.a. Just as pitchers have an e.r.a, so do offenses. This is what the MLB teams are accomplishing to date versus right handed starters, projected to probable output versus the average right handed starter. Sometimes very surprising, sometimes very revealing, as teams do not perform the same regardless of whether the opponent is right or left handed. Sometimes guys are disappointed that a certain starter is not getting the day off, when in fact it may be an offensive move by the manager. Remember, this is an era, so if the opponent starter goes 6 innings and is of average quality, that team should score about 2/3 of the projected offensive era in 6 innings. Every game is different (or there would be no gambling) but any measure of productivity is worthy of attention. Lefties to follow, BUT, results and projections are not as solid versus lefties yet, since most teams have only seen 2 to 4 this early in the season. As teams reach 15 games versus each, lefty and righty, the numbers become much more reliable.

































    NY Yankees
    San Francisco
    Texas
    Colorado
    Ch White Sox
    St Louis
    Boston
    Arizona
    Florida
    Houston
    Pittsburgh
    Philadelphia
    Baltimore
    Cincinnati
    Atlanta
    Milwaukee
    Cleveland
    LA Angels
    Ch Cubs
    Oakland
    Washington
    Kansas City
    NY Mets
    Minnesota
    Toronto
    Detroit
    Tampa Bay
    San Diego
    LA Dodgers
    Seattle


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    NY Yankees
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    Texas
    Colorado
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    St Louis
    Boston
    Arizona
    Florida
    Houston
    Pittsburgh
    Philadelphia
    Baltimore
    Cincinnati
    Atlanta
    Milwaukee
    Cleveland
    LA Angels
    Ch Cubs
    Oakland
    Washington
    Kansas City
    NY Mets
    Minnesota
    Toronto
    Detroit
    Tampa Bay
    San Diego
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    Seattle


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    Now and then even a BLIND squirrel can find an acorn
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    NY Yankees
    San Francisco
    Texas
    Colorado
    Ch White Sox
    St Louis
    Boston
    Arizona
    Florida
    Houston
    Pittsburgh
    Philadelphia
    Baltimore
    Cincinnati
    Atlanta
    Milwaukee
    Cleveland
    LA Angels
    Ch Cubs
    Oakland
    Washington
    Kansas City
    NY Mets
    Minnesota
    Toronto
    Detroit
    Tampa Bay
    San Diego
    LA Dodgers
    Seattle


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    Posted: Apr. 19, 2011 - 4:53 PM ET #3

    Excel won't post, I will type it out, brb

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    Excel won't post, I will type it out, brb

     
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    interesting KE!  Paste from Excel to Notepad and then paste from Notepad here.  it will work better.
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    interesting KE!  Paste from Excel to Notepad and then paste from Notepad here.  it will work better.
     
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    San Francisco..5.9
    Texas..5.7
    Colorado..5.3
    Ch White Sox..5.2
    St Louis..5.2
    Boston..5
    Arizona..4.7
    Florida..4.7
    Houston..4.7
    Pittsburgh..4.5
    Philadelphia..4.4
    Baltimore..4.3
    Cincinnati..4.3
    Atlanta..4.2
    Milwaukee..4.1
    Cleveland..4
    LA Angels..4
    Ch Cubs..39
    Oakland..39
    Washington..3.9
    Kansas City..3.8
    NY Mets..3.7
    Minnesota..3.6
    Toronto..3.4
    Detroit..3
    Tampa Bay..2.8
    San Diego..2.6
    LA Dodgers..2.4
    Seattle..1.7

    Average..4.2
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    San Francisco..5.9
    Texas..5.7
    Colorado..5.3
    Ch White Sox..5.2
    St Louis..5.2
    Boston..5
    Arizona..4.7
    Florida..4.7
    Houston..4.7
    Pittsburgh..4.5
    Philadelphia..4.4
    Baltimore..4.3
    Cincinnati..4.3
    Atlanta..4.2
    Milwaukee..4.1
    Cleveland..4
    LA Angels..4
    Ch Cubs..39
    Oakland..39
    Washington..3.9
    Kansas City..3.8
    NY Mets..3.7
    Minnesota..3.6
    Toronto..3.4
    Detroit..3
    Tampa Bay..2.8
    San Diego..2.6
    LA Dodgers..2.4
    Seattle..1.7

    Average..4.2
     
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    The damn thing cut off the Yankees at the top, here is allbees suggested method (thank you)

    1 NY Yankees..7.5
    2 San Francisco..5.9
    3 Texas..5.7
    4 Colorado..5.3
    5 Ch White Sox..5.2
    6 St Louis..5.2
    7 Boston..5
    8 Arizona..4.7
    9 Florida..4.7
    10 Houston..4.7
    11 Pittsburgh..4.5
    12 Philadelphia..4.4
    13 Baltimore..4.3
    14 Cincinnati..4.3
    15 Atlanta..4.2
    16 Milwaukee..4.1
    17 Cleveland..4
    18 LA Angels..4
    19 Ch Cubs..39
    20 Oakland..39
    21 Washington..3.9
    22 Kansas City..3.8
    23 NY Mets..3.7
    24 Minnesota..3.6
    25 Toronto..3.4
    26 Detroit..3
    27 Tampa Bay..2.8
    28 San Diego..2.6
    29 LA Dodgers..2.4
    30 Seattle..1.7

            Average..4.2
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    The damn thing cut off the Yankees at the top, here is allbees suggested method (thank you)

    1 NY Yankees..7.5
    2 San Francisco..5.9
    3 Texas..5.7
    4 Colorado..5.3
    5 Ch White Sox..5.2
    6 St Louis..5.2
    7 Boston..5
    8 Arizona..4.7
    9 Florida..4.7
    10 Houston..4.7
    11 Pittsburgh..4.5
    12 Philadelphia..4.4
    13 Baltimore..4.3
    14 Cincinnati..4.3
    15 Atlanta..4.2
    16 Milwaukee..4.1
    17 Cleveland..4
    18 LA Angels..4
    19 Ch Cubs..39
    20 Oakland..39
    21 Washington..3.9
    22 Kansas City..3.8
    23 NY Mets..3.7
    24 Minnesota..3.6
    25 Toronto..3.4
    26 Detroit..3
    27 Tampa Bay..2.8
    28 San Diego..2.6
    29 LA Dodgers..2.4
    30 Seattle..1.7

            Average..4.2
     
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    Posted: Apr. 19, 2011 - 5:19 PM ET #8

    Vs left handed starters, more reliable in about 2-3 weeks

    1 Philadelphia    9.5
    2 NY Mets        9.1
    3 Houston        8.4
    4 Cincinnati    8.3
    5 Kansas City    7.7
    6 Colorado    7.1
    7 Cleveland    6.9
    8 Arizona        5.8
    9 St Louis        5.7
    10 LA Dodgers    4.7
    11 NY Yankees    4.5
    12 Boston        4.2
    13 LA Angels    4.2
    14 Toronto    4
    15 Milwaukee    3.7
    16 San Francisco    3.6
    17 Tampa Bay    3.5
    18 San Diego    3.1
    19 Texas        3
    20 Washington    3
    21 Ch Cubs    2.8
    22 Ch White Sox    2.6
    23 Pittsburgh    2.6
    24 Atlanta        2.5
    25 Florida        2.4
    26 Baltimore    2.3
    27 Seattle        2.3
    28 Minnesota    2.1
    29 Detroit        1.9
    30 Oakland    1.6

            Average    4.44


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    Vs left handed starters, more reliable in about 2-3 weeks

    1 Philadelphia    9.5
    2 NY Mets        9.1
    3 Houston        8.4
    4 Cincinnati    8.3
    5 Kansas City    7.7
    6 Colorado    7.1
    7 Cleveland    6.9
    8 Arizona        5.8
    9 St Louis        5.7
    10 LA Dodgers    4.7
    11 NY Yankees    4.5
    12 Boston        4.2
    13 LA Angels    4.2
    14 Toronto    4
    15 Milwaukee    3.7
    16 San Francisco    3.6
    17 Tampa Bay    3.5
    18 San Diego    3.1
    19 Texas        3
    20 Washington    3
    21 Ch Cubs    2.8
    22 Ch White Sox    2.6
    23 Pittsburgh    2.6
    24 Atlanta        2.5
    25 Florida        2.4
    26 Baltimore    2.3
    27 Seattle        2.3
    28 Minnesota    2.1
    29 Detroit        1.9
    30 Oakland    1.6

            Average    4.44


     
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    Good Stuff, thanks                                                    
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    Good Stuff, thanks                                                    
     
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    Combined: This little exercise computes total projections based on what we know TODAY, and will change drastically over the next 2-3 weeks as all past references are phased out and only this season's current accomplishments have any effect. By June the numbers should be highly reliable and show who is getting run production out of their ba, obp, slg, etc. Teams that strand lots of runners, especially RISP, will have a low rating despite what their basic ba, obp, slg. etc. seem like they should produce. BTW, results vs lefties are not as heavily weighted in this projection, as only 25% of the pitching any team will see, and only 20% of the good pitching, is left handed.

                Combined
    1 NY Yankees    6.9
    2 Colorado    5.66
    3 Houston        5.44
    4 San Francisco    5.44
    5 Philadelphia    5.42
    6 St Louis        5.3
    7 Texas        5.16
    8 Cincinnati    5.1
    9 Arizona        4.92
    10 Boston        4.84
    11 NY Mets    4.78
    12 Ch White Sox    4.68
    13 Kansas City    4.58
    14 Cleveland    4.58
    15 Florida        4.24
    16 Pittsburgh    4.12
    17 LA Angels    4.04
    18 Milwaukee    4.02
    19 Baltimore    3.9
    20 Atlanta        3.86
    21 Washington    3.72
    22 Ch Cubs    3.68
    23 Toronto    3.52
    24 Oakland    3.44
    25 Minnesota    3.3
    26 Tampa Bay    2.94
    27 LA Dodgers    2.86
    28 Detroit        2.78
    29 San Diego    2.7
    30 Seattle        1.82

            Average    4.26

    If Seattle sucks as bad as the early numbers indicate they should blow up the franchise. Could Felix win another Cy Young with only 10 or 11 wins?
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    Combined: This little exercise computes total projections based on what we know TODAY, and will change drastically over the next 2-3 weeks as all past references are phased out and only this season's current accomplishments have any effect. By June the numbers should be highly reliable and show who is getting run production out of their ba, obp, slg, etc. Teams that strand lots of runners, especially RISP, will have a low rating despite what their basic ba, obp, slg. etc. seem like they should produce. BTW, results vs lefties are not as heavily weighted in this projection, as only 25% of the pitching any team will see, and only 20% of the good pitching, is left handed.

                Combined
    1 NY Yankees    6.9
    2 Colorado    5.66
    3 Houston        5.44
    4 San Francisco    5.44
    5 Philadelphia    5.42
    6 St Louis        5.3
    7 Texas        5.16
    8 Cincinnati    5.1
    9 Arizona        4.92
    10 Boston        4.84
    11 NY Mets    4.78
    12 Ch White Sox    4.68
    13 Kansas City    4.58
    14 Cleveland    4.58
    15 Florida        4.24
    16 Pittsburgh    4.12
    17 LA Angels    4.04
    18 Milwaukee    4.02
    19 Baltimore    3.9
    20 Atlanta        3.86
    21 Washington    3.72
    22 Ch Cubs    3.68
    23 Toronto    3.52
    24 Oakland    3.44
    25 Minnesota    3.3
    26 Tampa Bay    2.94
    27 LA Dodgers    2.86
    28 Detroit        2.78
    29 San Diego    2.7
    30 Seattle        1.82

            Average    4.26

    If Seattle sucks as bad as the early numbers indicate they should blow up the franchise. Could Felix win another Cy Young with only 10 or 11 wins?
     
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    like it Key   so we should unload on the Detroit/Seattle under
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    like it Key   so we should unload on the Detroit/Seattle under
     
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    thanks, I haven't looked at a single stat this year
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    thanks, I haven't looked at a single stat this year
     
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    Great info! Thanks! best of Luck with your plays
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    Great info! Thanks! best of Luck with your plays
     
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    Good stuff Key.
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    Good stuff Key.
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