My question is Nascar starting to lose some popularity because its alot more predictable nowadays?
have to disagree with you here, last year we saw quite a few guys at 20-1 or higher win races...at least in sprint cup...now when it comes to trucks and nationwide, it isn't seen as much... I usually keep the lines from the previous year, I know Kenseth last year was over 30-1, Newman was over 50-1 when he won, Harvick was 20-1 3 yrs ago....Hell if you had Keselowski at Dega last year, he was 150-1
have to disagree with you here, last year we saw quite a few guys at 20-1 or higher win races...at least in sprint cup...now when it comes to trucks and nationwide, it isn't seen as much... I usually keep the lines from the previous year, I know Kenseth last year was over 30-1, Newman was over 50-1 when he won, Harvick was 20-1 3 yrs ago....Hell if you had Keselowski at Dega last year, he was 150-1
two rain outs
two plate races
two rain outs
two plate races
Uhhhhhh and your point is?????
my point is take away the plate racing and the rain outs
and how many longshots do you remember winning??
maybe kahne at sonoma...don't remember what his odds
were...can't think of any others.
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Uhhhhhh and your point is?????
my point is take away the plate racing and the rain outs
and how many longshots do you remember winning??
maybe kahne at sonoma...don't remember what his odds
were...can't think of any others.
SUNDAYS PLAYS...
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kurt busch 15-1
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jeff burton
brad k
sam hornish
good luck with your plays
ok, let me give this a shot
longshots..
how bout kyle @35-1 odds at the road coarse, remember he wrecked in practice , started last...and dominated and won the race,,, i remember that one well, wish i had more on him that day.
I recall at least 1/2 of the 1st 10 races having the winner being over 10-1 odds on the sprint cup side....
sure, there were weeks where it was pretty clear who should win the race as the odds reflected that, but it doesn't always happen that way....ex. pocono last yr, with Hamlin clearly having the dominate car but never even made the 1st lap...had him that day too.
ok, let me give this a shot
longshots..
how bout kyle @35-1 odds at the road coarse, remember he wrecked in practice , started last...and dominated and won the race,,, i remember that one well, wish i had more on him that day.
I recall at least 1/2 of the 1st 10 races having the winner being over 10-1 odds on the sprint cup side....
sure, there were weeks where it was pretty clear who should win the race as the odds reflected that, but it doesn't always happen that way....ex. pocono last yr, with Hamlin clearly having the dominate car but never even made the 1st lap...had him that day too.
Uhhhhhh and your point is?????
my point is take away the plate racing and the rain outs
and how many longshots do you remember winning??
maybe kahne at sonoma...don't remember what his odds
were...can't think of any others.
SUNDAYS PLAYS...
WIN
kurt busch 15-1
TOP 3'S
jeff burton
brad k
sam hornish
good luck with your plays
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I think if you'll go back and look at the season you will see several longshot winners....(10-1 or better)
I think you are remembering only the last 10 chase races in which I don't even have to go look up. Im sure 90% of those were probably won by chase drivers who were probably all below 10-1. Hell I think I remember Jimmie being a 2-1 favorite in one of those races and Im pretty sure he won it. But if you'll look at all the previous races and odds I think you'll be suprised. I'm not going to take the time to do it because it isn't worth debating. If you think that only the favorites win....then so be it....bet em up!
Uhhhhhh and your point is?????
my point is take away the plate racing and the rain outs
and how many longshots do you remember winning??
maybe kahne at sonoma...don't remember what his odds
were...can't think of any others.
SUNDAYS PLAYS...
WIN
kurt busch 15-1
TOP 3'S
jeff burton
brad k
sam hornish
good luck with your plays
\
I think if you'll go back and look at the season you will see several longshot winners....(10-1 or better)
I think you are remembering only the last 10 chase races in which I don't even have to go look up. Im sure 90% of those were probably won by chase drivers who were probably all below 10-1. Hell I think I remember Jimmie being a 2-1 favorite in one of those races and Im pretty sure he won it. But if you'll look at all the previous races and odds I think you'll be suprised. I'm not going to take the time to do it because it isn't worth debating. If you think that only the favorites win....then so be it....bet em up!
i'm not a favorite better...and i never said only favorites win...he was talking about parity and 30 ad 40-1 longshots.
not trying to argue with anyone.
i'm not a favorite better...and i never said only favorites win...he was talking about parity and 30 ad 40-1 longshots.
not trying to argue with anyone.
i'm not a favorite better...and i never said only favorites win...he was talking about parity and 30 ad 40-1 longshots.
not trying to argue with anyone.
I actually get the point that you are trying to convey.Taking into account that rainouts can occur at anytime including in the middle of pit cycles, and the fact that given a little luck any of the 43 cars (that aren't "start and park") can win a "plate" race,the field really isn't as competitive as the #09,#00,#20,and #26 victories would lead you to believe.
i'm not a favorite better...and i never said only favorites win...he was talking about parity and 30 ad 40-1 longshots.
not trying to argue with anyone.
I actually get the point that you are trying to convey.Taking into account that rainouts can occur at anytime including in the middle of pit cycles, and the fact that given a little luck any of the 43 cars (that aren't "start and park") can win a "plate" race,the field really isn't as competitive as the #09,#00,#20,and #26 victories would lead you to believe.
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