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    stats1
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    Posted: Jul. 7, 2010 - 10:05 AM ET #1

    i think 5dimes is the best 4 sprint cup lines but i feel there futures on odds 2 win r getting worse and worse every week 4 the nationwide..   any thoughts???
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    i think 5dimes is the best 4 sprint cup lines but i feel there futures on odds 2 win r getting worse and worse every week 4 the nationwide..   any thoughts???
     
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    Posted: Jul. 7, 2010 - 10:07 AM ET #2

    You're right stats Bodog had better "TO WIN" odds last week and so far 5Dimes is looking low again this week. Wonder whats up?
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    You're right stats Bodog had better "TO WIN" odds last week and so far 5Dimes is looking low again this week. Wonder whats up?
     
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    Posted: Jul. 7, 2010 - 10:11 AM ET #3

    yes nationwide odds have been crap
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    yes nationwide odds have been crap
     
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    Posted: Jul. 7, 2010 - 10:12 AM ET #4

    Thegreek isn't much better:

     

    301 Kyle Busch      +200    
    302 Joey Logano      +350    
    303 Kevin Harvick      +500    
    304 Brad Keselowski      +500    
    305 Carl Edwards      +700    
    306 Reed Sorenson      +1000    
    307 Justin Allgaier      +1000    
    308 Jamie McMurray      +1200    
    309 Ryan Newman      +1400    
    310 Clint Bowyer          
    311 David Reutimann      +1800    
    312 Field      +800 

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    Thegreek isn't much better:

     

    301 Kyle Busch      +200    
    302 Joey Logano      +350    
    303 Kevin Harvick      +500    
    304 Brad Keselowski      +500    
    305 Carl Edwards      +700    
    306 Reed Sorenson      +1000    
    307 Justin Allgaier      +1000    
    308 Jamie McMurray      +1200    
    309 Ryan Newman      +1400    
    310 Clint Bowyer          
    311 David Reutimann      +1800    
    312 Field      +800 

     
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    Posted: Jul. 7, 2010 - 12:22 PM ET #5

    books in general all have caught on, when you have JJ and Denny winning over half the races thus far, their is a reason they are huge favs. every week....books probably have been taking a beating on them. They are much happier when a guy like newman or mcmurray wins.

     

    this year  (18 races so far)

     

    JJ     5 wins

    Hamlin   5 wins

    Kurt  3 wins

    Harvick 2 wins

    Newman, Kyle and McMurray all with 1

     

     

    56% of the races so far have been won by Denny or JJ

    72% of the races have been won by Denny, JJ or Kurt

    83% have been won by Denny, JJ, Kurt or Harvick

     

     

    So nearly 85% of all the races have been won by 4 different people , out of 43 drivers.

     

    This year has been a good year for the favs. for sure.

     

    Mcmurray was over 40-1 for daytona

    Newman was 38-1 or better

    Kyle was around 10-1 I believe.

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    books in general all have caught on, when you have JJ and Denny winning over half the races thus far, their is a reason they are huge favs. every week....books probably have been taking a beating on them. They are much happier when a guy like newman or mcmurray wins.

     

    this year  (18 races so far)

     

    JJ     5 wins

    Hamlin   5 wins

    Kurt  3 wins

    Harvick 2 wins

    Newman, Kyle and McMurray all with 1

     

     

    56% of the races so far have been won by Denny or JJ

    72% of the races have been won by Denny, JJ or Kurt

    83% have been won by Denny, JJ, Kurt or Harvick

     

     

    So nearly 85% of all the races have been won by 4 different people , out of 43 drivers.

     

    This year has been a good year for the favs. for sure.

     

    Mcmurray was over 40-1 for daytona

    Newman was 38-1 or better

    Kyle was around 10-1 I believe.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 7, 2010 - 12:25 PM ET #6

    Nationwide is even worse, when you get 5 guys that have pretty much won every race this yr. except for 1 ( Allgaier) ...the odds are always at 5-1 or less for all of them. We pretty much can guarantee that 1 of the top 5 will win every week out there.

    Plus the Gibbs cars should have won nearly every race this year except for maybe 2 or 3 races....they have pretty much dominated the nationwide this year.

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    Nationwide is even worse, when you get 5 guys that have pretty much won every race this yr. except for 1 ( Allgaier) ...the odds are always at 5-1 or less for all of them. We pretty much can guarantee that 1 of the top 5 will win every week out there.

    Plus the Gibbs cars should have won nearly every race this year except for maybe 2 or 3 races....they have pretty much dominated the nationwide this year.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 7, 2010 - 1:14 PM ET #7

    Shooter, remove the Plate races as they're a crap shoot and re-do your calculations.
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    Shooter, remove the Plate races as they're a crap shoot and re-do your calculations.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 7, 2010 - 1:27 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by Goggles-Pisano:

    Shooter, remove the Plate races as they're a crap shoot and re-do your calculations.


    They are. But look at the past 8 winners on restrictor plate tracks. 6 of them have been won by 3 drivers. McMurray, Harvick, Stewart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goggles-Pisano:

    Shooter, remove the Plate races as they're a crap shoot and re-do your calculations.


    They are. But look at the past 8 winners on restrictor plate tracks. 6 of them have been won by 3 drivers. McMurray, Harvick, Stewart.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 7, 2010 - 3:04 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by madshooter72:

    books in general all have caught on, when you have JJ and Denny winning over half the races thus far, their is a reason they are huge favs. every week....books probably have been taking a beating on them. They are much happier when a guy like newman or mcmurray wins.

     

    this year  (18 races so far)

     

    JJ     5 wins

    Hamlin   5 wins

    Kurt  3 wins

    Harvick 2 wins

    Newman, Kyle and McMurray all with 1

     

     

    56% of the races so far have been won by Denny or JJ

    72% of the races have been won by Denny, JJ or Kurt

    83% have been won by Denny, JJ, Kurt or Harvick

     

     

    So nearly 85% of all the races have been won by 4 different people , out of 43 drivers.

     

    This year has been a good year for the favs. for sure.

     

    Mcmurray was over 40-1 for daytona

    Newman was 38-1 or better

    Kyle was around 10-1 I believe.

       kyle has 2 wins    i was thinking bet 2,11,18 and 48 this wk small and u probably have the winner...   both harvicks wins r rest.plate and those r a crap shoot...
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    Quote Originally Posted by madshooter72:

    books in general all have caught on, when you have JJ and Denny winning over half the races thus far, their is a reason they are huge favs. every week....books probably have been taking a beating on them. They are much happier when a guy like newman or mcmurray wins.

     

    this year  (18 races so far)

     

    JJ     5 wins

    Hamlin   5 wins

    Kurt  3 wins

    Harvick 2 wins

    Newman, Kyle and McMurray all with 1

     

     

    56% of the races so far have been won by Denny or JJ

    72% of the races have been won by Denny, JJ or Kurt

    83% have been won by Denny, JJ, Kurt or Harvick

     

     

    So nearly 85% of all the races have been won by 4 different people , out of 43 drivers.

     

    This year has been a good year for the favs. for sure.

     

    Mcmurray was over 40-1 for daytona

    Newman was 38-1 or better

    Kyle was around 10-1 I believe.

       kyle has 2 wins    i was thinking bet 2,11,18 and 48 this wk small and u probably have the winner...   both harvicks wins r rest.plate and those r a crap shoot...
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by stats1:

       kyle has 2 wins    i was thinking bet 2,11,18 and 48 this wk small and u probably have the winner...   both harvicks wins r rest.plate and those r a crap shoot...

     

    Only problem with that stats is if the 2 don't win and you put $50 on each to win the best you come out is +$37.50 if the 24 hits. If the 11,18 or 48 hits it just gets worse. There is just no value there for me, but I haven't bet a winner in some time as I'm always looking at +800 or better to make a play. The favs have definately been rolling in this season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stats1:

       kyle has 2 wins    i was thinking bet 2,11,18 and 48 this wk small and u probably have the winner...   both harvicks wins r rest.plate and those r a crap shoot...

     

    Only problem with that stats is if the 2 don't win and you put $50 on each to win the best you come out is +$37.50 if the 24 hits. If the 11,18 or 48 hits it just gets worse. There is just no value there for me, but I haven't bet a winner in some time as I'm always looking at +800 or better to make a play. The favs have definately been rolling in this season.

     
     
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    Posted: Jul. 9, 2010 - 12:32 AM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by TREE88:

     

    Only problem with that stats is if the 2 don't win and you put $50 on each to win the best you come out is +$37.50 if the 24 hits. If the 11,18 or 48 hits it just gets worse. There is just no value there for me, but I haven't bet a winner in some time as I'm always looking at +800 or better to make a play. The favs have definately been rolling in this season.

      i agree 100%
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    Quote Originally Posted by TREE88:

     

    Only problem with that stats is if the 2 don't win and you put $50 on each to win the best you come out is +$37.50 if the 24 hits. If the 11,18 or 48 hits it just gets worse. There is just no value there for me, but I haven't bet a winner in some time as I'm always looking at +800 or better to make a play. The favs have definately been rolling in this season.

      i agree 100%
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