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    do we think Miami could tank final 2 games?

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    Posted: Apr. 9, 2018 - 1:09 PM ET #1

    Looking at Okc game here

    If I was Miami - I would want to be the 7th or 8th seed since the two best teams in the Eastern Conference will be at #3 and #4...

    Flip side, Miami is just now gettng healthy and need a few games playing together before the playoffs...

    Still, seems dicey that Heat will be fully motivaed against back-to-the-wall OKC...
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    Looking at Okc game here

    If I was Miami - I would want to be the 7th or 8th seed since the two best teams in the Eastern Conference will be at #3 and #4...

    Flip side, Miami is just now gettng healthy and need a few games playing together before the playoffs...

    Still, seems dicey that Heat will be fully motivaed against back-to-the-wall OKC...
     
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    Posted: Apr. 9, 2018 - 1:19 PM ET #2

    thinking the same thing here.  Losing tonight and Bucks presumably winning would get them the 7th seed and facing a Kyrie-less Celtics team vs a surging Sixers team.   
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    thinking the same thing here.  Losing tonight and Bucks presumably winning would get them the 7th seed and facing a Kyrie-less Celtics team vs a surging Sixers team.   
     
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    Posted: Apr. 9, 2018 - 1:39 PM ET #3

    Even now, Philly is underrated... Top to bottom the best roster in the east - team is young and largely new pieces in Simmons (rookie), Embiid (first full season), Saric (2nd season in league), Reddick (first season in Phi) - they are my favorites out of the East... 

    Miami/OKC - will wait until closer to tip off as I want to see what others think, any interesting team news or quotes sniffing at Miami's motivation...
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    Even now, Philly is underrated... Top to bottom the best roster in the east - team is young and largely new pieces in Simmons (rookie), Embiid (first full season), Saric (2nd season in league), Reddick (first season in Phi) - they are my favorites out of the East... 

    Miami/OKC - will wait until closer to tip off as I want to see what others think, any interesting team news or quotes sniffing at Miami's motivation...
     
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    Posted: Apr. 9, 2018 - 1:40 PM ET #4

    Regarding Philly above, meant to finish with - team is gelling now after climbing its learning curve... Unbounded ceiling
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    Regarding Philly above, meant to finish with - team is gelling now after climbing its learning curve... Unbounded ceiling
     
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    Posted: Apr. 9, 2018 - 2:14 PM ET #5

    nobody wants the 8th spot...Toronto has arguably one of the best home court advantages going...especially come playoff time...I realize most non-Canadians have a certain perspective of these "same old Craptors"...but this team has organically grown to be poised to get to the finals this year...all these teams should be jockeying for #7 in order to play a broke down Celtics team who should be bounced in the 1st rd without Kyrie.
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    nobody wants the 8th spot...Toronto has arguably one of the best home court advantages going...especially come playoff time...I realize most non-Canadians have a certain perspective of these "same old Craptors"...but this team has organically grown to be poised to get to the finals this year...all these teams should be jockeying for #7 in order to play a broke down Celtics team who should be bounced in the 1st rd without Kyrie.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 9, 2018 - 2:20 PM ET #6

    problem with phila is inexperience. its evident in their blown leads. bought 85-1 for them to win the title a while back. will likely start to hedge after the first round..stoked to see em run tho, think theyre contenders for sure

    heat-wise momentum maybe jut as important to them as matchup. mil could drop this one to orl...that said think you got the right side.
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    problem with phila is inexperience. its evident in their blown leads. bought 85-1 for them to win the title a while back. will likely start to hedge after the first round..stoked to see em run tho, think theyre contenders for sure

    heat-wise momentum maybe jut as important to them as matchup. mil could drop this one to orl...that said think you got the right side.
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    Posted: Apr. 9, 2018 - 5:15 PM ET #7

    Miami vs Boston would get better ratings than Miami vs Toronto...  Wizards vs Boston would be better than Miami vs Boston.. In the end, none of those first round match-ups look appealing anyways.. 
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    Miami vs Boston would get better ratings than Miami vs Toronto...  Wizards vs Boston would be better than Miami vs Boston.. In the end, none of those first round match-ups look appealing anyways.. 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 9, 2018 - 5:25 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers:

    Posted: 3 hours ago "Quote" nobody wants the 8th spot...Toronto has arguably one of the best home court advantages going...especially come playoff time...I realize most non-Canadians have a certain perspective of these "same old Craptors"...but this team has organically grown to be poised to get to the finals this year...all these teams should be jockeying for #7 in order to play a broke down Celtics team who should be bounced in the 1st rd without Kyrie.

    I'm a huge Toronto fan but until I see this team perform in the playoffs I'll always have my doubts.  DeRozan and Lowry have had a horribly dull playoff history over the last 4 years and they need to prove to people that they are capable of getting it done when it matters before being taken seriously.

    That being said, this team has dramatically changed the way they play the game this year.  They play together and it's shown in the success they've had.  Their bench has been extremely effective and because of that, both Lowry and DeRozan have played a lot less minutes this season and have had a chance to actually get some rest which might be hugely beneifical for them and the team.

    Only game time will tell the story!

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    Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers:

    Posted: 3 hours ago "Quote" nobody wants the 8th spot...Toronto has arguably one of the best home court advantages going...especially come playoff time...I realize most non-Canadians have a certain perspective of these "same old Craptors"...but this team has organically grown to be poised to get to the finals this year...all these teams should be jockeying for #7 in order to play a broke down Celtics team who should be bounced in the 1st rd without Kyrie.

    I'm a huge Toronto fan but until I see this team perform in the playoffs I'll always have my doubts.  DeRozan and Lowry have had a horribly dull playoff history over the last 4 years and they need to prove to people that they are capable of getting it done when it matters before being taken seriously.

    That being said, this team has dramatically changed the way they play the game this year.  They play together and it's shown in the success they've had.  Their bench has been extremely effective and because of that, both Lowry and DeRozan have played a lot less minutes this season and have had a chance to actually get some rest which might be hugely beneifical for them and the team.

    Only game time will tell the story!

     
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    Packer and CanadaChris - just to piggyback on the Raptors talk... this is the best Raptors team we have seen - actually playing team ball and defense. but they dont really have one bonafide superstar let alone 2+.. and I think their ceiling is making it to the Conference Finals.. This is no slight on Derozan, he is awesome, and a class act but probably an nba rank 15-20 type player... This raptors ceiling is exposed every year as the games get more intense... Could prove me wrong but I doubt it... 
    In the top half of east - I would want to face Boston, Toronto, Phi, Clev - in that order... home court advantages are huge but advantages between one home court versus another even out a bit in the playoffs... this has to be lebron's weakest clevaland team in his 2nd stint so real chance they are overvalued, we will see... Phi - unproven agreed and that is the uncertainty around what they can become... or conversely, why they will fail... My humble view...
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    Packer and CanadaChris - just to piggyback on the Raptors talk... this is the best Raptors team we have seen - actually playing team ball and defense. but they dont really have one bonafide superstar let alone 2+.. and I think their ceiling is making it to the Conference Finals.. This is no slight on Derozan, he is awesome, and a class act but probably an nba rank 15-20 type player... This raptors ceiling is exposed every year as the games get more intense... Could prove me wrong but I doubt it... 
    In the top half of east - I would want to face Boston, Toronto, Phi, Clev - in that order... home court advantages are huge but advantages between one home court versus another even out a bit in the playoffs... this has to be lebron's weakest clevaland team in his 2nd stint so real chance they are overvalued, we will see... Phi - unproven agreed and that is the uncertainty around what they can become... or conversely, why they will fail... My humble view...
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers:

    nobody wants the 8th spot...Toronto has arguably one of the best home court advantages going...especially come playoff time...I realize most non-Canadians have a certain perspective of these "same old Craptors"...but this team has organically grown to be poised to get to the finals this year...all these teams should be jockeying for #7 in order to play a broke down Celtics team who should be bounced in the 1st rd without Kyrie.

    Could not agree more amigo. Well put. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by packersbackers:

    nobody wants the 8th spot...Toronto has arguably one of the best home court advantages going...especially come playoff time...I realize most non-Canadians have a certain perspective of these "same old Craptors"...but this team has organically grown to be poised to get to the finals this year...all these teams should be jockeying for #7 in order to play a broke down Celtics team who should be bounced in the 1st rd without Kyrie.

    Could not agree more amigo. Well put. 
     
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    NOBODY is talking about the wizards. NOBODY. I’m not saying they are gonna get to the finals but they can definitely surprise and get to the eastern conference finals. It’s anybody’s trophy this year.....I feel we see some upsets in the playoffs this year. Can’t wait.
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    NOBODY is talking about the wizards. NOBODY. I’m not saying they are gonna get to the finals but they can definitely surprise and get to the eastern conference finals. It’s anybody’s trophy this year.....I feel we see some upsets in the playoffs this year. Can’t wait.
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Titusblink:

    Packer and CanadaChris - just to piggyback on the Raptors talk... this is the best Raptors team we have seen - actually playing team ball and defense. but they dont really have one bonafide superstar let alone 2+.. and I think their ceiling is making it to the Conference Finals.. This is no slight on Derozan, he is awesome, and a class act but probably an nba rank 15-20 type player... This raptors ceiling is exposed every year as the games get more intense... Could prove me wrong but I doubt it... 
    In the top half of east - I would want to face Boston, Toronto, Phi, Clev - in that order... home court advantages are huge but advantages between one home court versus another even out a bit in the playoffs... this has to be lebron's weakest clevaland team in his 2nd stint so real chance they are overvalued, we will see... Phi - unproven agreed and that is the uncertainty around what they can become... or conversely, why they will fail... My humble view...

    also, they are not scared to play 9 or 10 guys even in meaningful stretches.  Will that help them or hurt them come playoff time?   I lean help.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by Titusblink:

    Packer and CanadaChris - just to piggyback on the Raptors talk... this is the best Raptors team we have seen - actually playing team ball and defense. but they dont really have one bonafide superstar let alone 2+.. and I think their ceiling is making it to the Conference Finals.. This is no slight on Derozan, he is awesome, and a class act but probably an nba rank 15-20 type player... This raptors ceiling is exposed every year as the games get more intense... Could prove me wrong but I doubt it... 
    In the top half of east - I would want to face Boston, Toronto, Phi, Clev - in that order... home court advantages are huge but advantages between one home court versus another even out a bit in the playoffs... this has to be lebron's weakest clevaland team in his 2nd stint so real chance they are overvalued, we will see... Phi - unproven agreed and that is the uncertainty around what they can become... or conversely, why they will fail... My humble view...

    also, they are not scared to play 9 or 10 guys even in meaningful stretches.  Will that help them or hurt them come playoff time?   I lean help.  
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