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    Golden State @ Memphis - Thoughts!!

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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2015 - 6:55 AM ET #1

    Okay, so just about a week ago the 2 teams played @ GS and it ended 119-69 (188 points in total, 50 point difference!)

    Now the total is 200 (some have it for 199.5) and the point spread is +7 for Memphis.

    Considering just a week ago GS won by 50 points, the spread of 7 points is interesting ... because psychologically you think it would just repeat itself, right? GS is undefeated so far...

    I actually have thoughs of Memphis breaking their losingless record, what do you think?

    Also about the total - will it go OVER this time?

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    Okay, so just about a week ago the 2 teams played @ GS and it ended 119-69 (188 points in total, 50 point difference!)

    Now the total is 200 (some have it for 199.5) and the point spread is +7 for Memphis.

    Considering just a week ago GS won by 50 points, the spread of 7 points is interesting ... because psychologically you think it would just repeat itself, right? GS is undefeated so far...

    I actually have thoughs of Memphis breaking their losingless record, what do you think?

    Also about the total - will it go OVER this time?

     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2015 - 7:02 AM ET #2

    memphis win and lock in the under
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    memphis win and lock in the under
     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2015 - 9:40 AM ET #3

    Careful cause my Warriors are looking ahead to break the record for most consecutive wins set by the Rockets.....
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    Careful cause my Warriors are looking ahead to break the record for most consecutive wins set by the Rockets.....
     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2015 - 11:00 AM ET #4

    Memphis may cover but there's no way they're winning. The Memphis Grizzlies can not find a way to put long strings of scoring together...
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    Memphis may cover but there's no way they're winning. The Memphis Grizzlies can not find a way to put long strings of scoring together...
     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2015 - 11:11 AM ET #5

    Memphis have no offensive rhythm right now they're out of sync, GS is making the game look easy and the players like each other so chemistry is like breathing to them right now, so with all that GS should blow them away again, but since this is the NBA... the lay down could be in effect. I like GS and the under.
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    Memphis have no offensive rhythm right now they're out of sync, GS is making the game look easy and the players like each other so chemistry is like breathing to them right now, so with all that GS should blow them away again, but since this is the NBA... the lay down could be in effect. I like GS and the under.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2015 - 11:57 AM ET #6

    GS is known for its firepower, but they also have one of the best defense in the league. Memphis is also known for grit n grind defense, but defense cancels out but they just can't score consistently. Plus, GSW bench is way better than Memphis. I know they had 2-1 lead against GSW in playoff, but GSW is better than last year but memphis look like they took a step back. warriors will probably win. 
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    GS is known for its firepower, but they also have one of the best defense in the league. Memphis is also known for grit n grind defense, but defense cancels out but they just can't score consistently. Plus, GSW bench is way better than Memphis. I know they had 2-1 lead against GSW in playoff, but GSW is better than last year but memphis look like they took a step back. warriors will probably win. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by dontknowhowtobe:

    Okay, so just about a week ago the 2 teams played @ GS and it ended 119-69 (188 points in total, 50 point difference!)

    Now the total is 200 (some have it for 199.5) and the point spread is +7 for Memphis.

    Considering just a week ago GS won by 50 points, the spread of 7 points is interesting ... because psychologically you think it would just repeat itself, right? GS is undefeated so far...

    I actually have thoughs of Memphis breaking their losingless record, what do you think?

    Also about the total - will it go OVER this time?


    Psychologically, in terms of the players' mindset, it would be exactly the opposite of what you say.

    Memphis will be 100x more motivated to win this game than the previous one.

    GS has no reason to win by 50 or 40 or 30 or even 20. They just want to win and they know Memphis will make them earn it.

    So from a psychological perspective, which is more important than the raw talent and chemistry GS has, at least for one night, Memphis is the side to take here...with the points of course. 

    BTW, Memphis rested all its starters virtually the entire second half in the last game so the final was of course, skewed, especially since GS kept in their starters to beat up Memphis' bench.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dontknowhowtobe:

    Okay, so just about a week ago the 2 teams played @ GS and it ended 119-69 (188 points in total, 50 point difference!)

    Now the total is 200 (some have it for 199.5) and the point spread is +7 for Memphis.

    Considering just a week ago GS won by 50 points, the spread of 7 points is interesting ... because psychologically you think it would just repeat itself, right? GS is undefeated so far...

    I actually have thoughs of Memphis breaking their losingless record, what do you think?

    Also about the total - will it go OVER this time?


    Psychologically, in terms of the players' mindset, it would be exactly the opposite of what you say.

    Memphis will be 100x more motivated to win this game than the previous one.

    GS has no reason to win by 50 or 40 or 30 or even 20. They just want to win and they know Memphis will make them earn it.

    So from a psychological perspective, which is more important than the raw talent and chemistry GS has, at least for one night, Memphis is the side to take here...with the points of course. 

    BTW, Memphis rested all its starters virtually the entire second half in the last game so the final was of course, skewed, especially since GS kept in their starters to beat up Memphis' bench.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2015 - 12:43 PM ET #8

    Gs is gonna smash them again tonight. No reason to see that Memphis team have any confidence right now to play up and up with state. Golden state will establish their tempo again tonight 
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    Gs is gonna smash them again tonight. No reason to see that Memphis team have any confidence right now to play up and up with state. Golden state will establish their tempo again tonight 
     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2015 - 1:08 PM ET #9

    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    Psychologically, in terms of the players' mindset, it would be exactly the opposite of what you say.

    Memphis will be 100x more motivated to win this game than the previous one.

    GS has no reason to win by 50 or 40 or 30 or even 20. They just want to win and they know Memphis will make them earn it.

    So from a psychological perspective, which is more important than the raw talent and chemistry GS has, at least for one night, Memphis is the side to take here...with the points of course. 

    BTW, Memphis rested all its starters virtually the entire second half in the last game so the final was of course, skewed, especially since GS kept in their starters to beat up Memphis' bench.


    Scal i didnt see this game last time but the sheets don't really read that way...
    In the forth quater GSW launched 5 threes    much less than their season average..
    The 4th qauter is also full of names like Speights clark rush and macadoo.. The strters barley make the sheet w igudala once around the 11 minute mark and barbosa twice around around the 10 minute mark... then nada
    Entering the 3rd they were up 19... Alot but not let off status.. they also launched less than average 3s and take out the final seconds 3 by igudala and you have 6 3 point attempts.  So in the seoncd half they launched almost 1/3 less threes than normal and in the 4th played almost exclusivly scrubs...

    It seems to me like GSW not only took their foot off the gas but was break checking like "hey grizz speed the hell up will ya"  They could have won this game by 75 but did the compassionate thing and won by 50.

    Its possible yesterdays trade can start a new season for the grizz.. but at the moment they are just a bad team...
    They did bounce back after the GSW beat down w a W in sacto so you could say they can get focused and put on a good game... but then at 1-1 on the road trip and people thinking maybe the GSW game lit a fire they went on to be outscored in Portland then beaten down by Utah.  Then in a game they really needed to have last night managed to draw the notoriously soft clippers into a Grizz style slug it out and still managed to loose...

    This team was beat by clevland at home on oepning night by a record setting (i think) 30 points...  then 3 games later lost by 50+... This doesnt seem like a team full of pride.. seems like when the going gets tough the grizz fold and fold hard...

    Revenge angles are my style.. Im looking for motivation gaps...I was leaning grizz this morning after the little reminder chimed up on my computer... Grizz and Grizz ML it said... but the more i peep the more i back away.. Good Luck
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    Psychologically, in terms of the players' mindset, it would be exactly the opposite of what you say.

    Memphis will be 100x more motivated to win this game than the previous one.

    GS has no reason to win by 50 or 40 or 30 or even 20. They just want to win and they know Memphis will make them earn it.

    So from a psychological perspective, which is more important than the raw talent and chemistry GS has, at least for one night, Memphis is the side to take here...with the points of course. 

    BTW, Memphis rested all its starters virtually the entire second half in the last game so the final was of course, skewed, especially since GS kept in their starters to beat up Memphis' bench.


    Scal i didnt see this game last time but the sheets don't really read that way...
    In the forth quater GSW launched 5 threes    much less than their season average..
    The 4th qauter is also full of names like Speights clark rush and macadoo.. The strters barley make the sheet w igudala once around the 11 minute mark and barbosa twice around around the 10 minute mark... then nada
    Entering the 3rd they were up 19... Alot but not let off status.. they also launched less than average 3s and take out the final seconds 3 by igudala and you have 6 3 point attempts.  So in the seoncd half they launched almost 1/3 less threes than normal and in the 4th played almost exclusivly scrubs...

    It seems to me like GSW not only took their foot off the gas but was break checking like "hey grizz speed the hell up will ya"  They could have won this game by 75 but did the compassionate thing and won by 50.

    Its possible yesterdays trade can start a new season for the grizz.. but at the moment they are just a bad team...
    They did bounce back after the GSW beat down w a W in sacto so you could say they can get focused and put on a good game... but then at 1-1 on the road trip and people thinking maybe the GSW game lit a fire they went on to be outscored in Portland then beaten down by Utah.  Then in a game they really needed to have last night managed to draw the notoriously soft clippers into a Grizz style slug it out and still managed to loose...

    This team was beat by clevland at home on oepning night by a record setting (i think) 30 points...  then 3 games later lost by 50+... This doesnt seem like a team full of pride.. seems like when the going gets tough the grizz fold and fold hard...

    Revenge angles are my style.. Im looking for motivation gaps...I was leaning grizz this morning after the little reminder chimed up on my computer... Grizz and Grizz ML it said... but the more i peep the more i back away.. Good Luck
     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2015 - 1:40 PM ET #10

    I like the Grizzlies here, the Warriors may win the game but I like the spot for them and the big spread at home, and it looks like it will only go up.
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    I like the Grizzlies here, the Warriors may win the game but I like the spot for them and the big spread at home, and it looks like it will only go up.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2015 - 2:48 PM ET #11

    How best to prevent getting beat by 50 again, or handily ( 20 or more) again?  Play defense, which I think Memphis will in  this case. Total low for a GS game, linesmakers are wanting as much a split as possible, and they know public usually goes for the over, so I'm leaning under here.
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    How best to prevent getting beat by 50 again, or handily ( 20 or more) again?  Play defense, which I think Memphis will in  this case. Total low for a GS game, linesmakers are wanting as much a split as possible, and they know public usually goes for the over, so I'm leaning under here.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2015 - 3:13 PM ET #12

    My thoughts....

    Warriors are without a doubt the best team in league right now and Memphis is one of the most underachieving teams. 

    The recent trade by Memphis makes them worse at the moment because the chemistry isnt there.

    Warriors are more talented at almost every position and have the better bench. 

    Griz physically can't slow down Warriors they're just too quick at almost every position.

    Fact..Draymond Green is more valuable than Zach Randolph...

    Bogut is back to slow down Gasol...

    Psychologically Memphis is going to play  their best ball tonight but so is Golden State... these young guns really are out to win every single game giving  their absolute best which tends to be enough by halftime.. They don't take nights off, they're not cocky, they're not arrogant, they give it their best every game and remain humble.  Grizzlies are known for being tough so why would Golden state slack... there's not a single reason for that.

    I am on Warriors ML big...

    Warriors 103- Griz 94


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    My thoughts....

    Warriors are without a doubt the best team in league right now and Memphis is one of the most underachieving teams. 

    The recent trade by Memphis makes them worse at the moment because the chemistry isnt there.

    Warriors are more talented at almost every position and have the better bench. 

    Griz physically can't slow down Warriors they're just too quick at almost every position.

    Fact..Draymond Green is more valuable than Zach Randolph...

    Bogut is back to slow down Gasol...

    Psychologically Memphis is going to play  their best ball tonight but so is Golden State... these young guns really are out to win every single game giving  their absolute best which tends to be enough by halftime.. They don't take nights off, they're not cocky, they're not arrogant, they give it their best every game and remain humble.  Grizzlies are known for being tough so why would Golden state slack... there's not a single reason for that.

    I am on Warriors ML big...

    Warriors 103- Griz 94


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ACEasterling:

    My thoughts....

    Warriors are without a doubt the best team in league right now and Memphis is one of the most underachieving teams. 

    The recent trade by Memphis makes them worse at the moment because the chemistry isnt there.

    Warriors are more talented at almost every position and have the better bench. 

    Griz physically can't slow down Warriors they're just too quick at almost every position.

    Fact..Draymond Green is more valuable than Zach Randolph...

    Bogut is back to slow down Gasol...

    Psychologically Memphis is going to play  their best ball tonight but so is Golden State... these young guns really are out to win every single game giving  their absolute best which tends to be enough by halftime.. They don't take nights off, they're not cocky, they're not arrogant, they give it their best every game and remain humble.  Grizzlies are known for being tough so why would Golden state slack... there's not a single reason for that.

    I am on Warriors ML big...

    Warriors 103- Griz 94




    Yes, I agree that rationally backing Golden State is the "right" thing to do but this is Vegas ... last game GSW had -14 against Detroit, line dropped to -12.5 and they won by 14 ... I don't call it a game of CHANCE !!

    There is no pure physical power & energy in the NBA anymore, it's completely random or at least they try to make it random ... you think a line of 218 yesterday was crossed in WAS-OKC because of pure good shooting or things like that? I say 'forget it' ...

    Those NBA lines are created for a reason, to grab money from bettors on both sides ... but when it comes to the final outcome I don't expect it to be based purely on the 'better' team - if that was like that Vegas would have gone bankrupt, don't you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ACEasterling:

    My thoughts....

    Warriors are without a doubt the best team in league right now and Memphis is one of the most underachieving teams. 

    The recent trade by Memphis makes them worse at the moment because the chemistry isnt there.

    Warriors are more talented at almost every position and have the better bench. 

    Griz physically can't slow down Warriors they're just too quick at almost every position.

    Fact..Draymond Green is more valuable than Zach Randolph...

    Bogut is back to slow down Gasol...

    Psychologically Memphis is going to play  their best ball tonight but so is Golden State... these young guns really are out to win every single game giving  their absolute best which tends to be enough by halftime.. They don't take nights off, they're not cocky, they're not arrogant, they give it their best every game and remain humble.  Grizzlies are known for being tough so why would Golden state slack... there's not a single reason for that.

    I am on Warriors ML big...

    Warriors 103- Griz 94




    Yes, I agree that rationally backing Golden State is the "right" thing to do but this is Vegas ... last game GSW had -14 against Detroit, line dropped to -12.5 and they won by 14 ... I don't call it a game of CHANCE !!

    There is no pure physical power & energy in the NBA anymore, it's completely random or at least they try to make it random ... you think a line of 218 yesterday was crossed in WAS-OKC because of pure good shooting or things like that? I say 'forget it' ...

    Those NBA lines are created for a reason, to grab money from bettors on both sides ... but when it comes to the final outcome I don't expect it to be based purely on the 'better' team - if that was like that Vegas would have gone bankrupt, don't you think?

     
    Jailbait7127
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2015 - 3:42 PM ET #14

    i dont see how memphis will all of a sudden score... 

    GSW wont slow down.. and i think they win this game between 6-14 points... 

    i have them ml parlayed with spurs ml 


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    i dont see how memphis will all of a sudden score... 

    GSW wont slow down.. and i think they win this game between 6-14 points... 

    i have them ml parlayed with spurs ml 


     
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2015 - 3:54 PM ET #15

    How to be.... My money is on the moneyline, not point spread. I think right now in this same situation Warriors win 8 out of 10. Those 2 times will be because of warriors foil trouble, a hot Griz, and slowing warriors down. The chances all three of those things to happen tonight is about 15% which is why my money is on Warriors.  Hopefully they start off big and dont look back.
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    How to be.... My money is on the moneyline, not point spread. I think right now in this same situation Warriors win 8 out of 10. Those 2 times will be because of warriors foil trouble, a hot Griz, and slowing warriors down. The chances all three of those things to happen tonight is about 15% which is why my money is on Warriors.  Hopefully they start off big and dont look back.
     
    IAML3G3ND
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2015 - 4:09 PM ET #16

    Dubs win and cover this game. That's what I have my money on. I don't see how you can bet against this team when they are absolutely shooting the lights out right now. 
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    Dubs win and cover this game. That's what I have my money on. I don't see how you can bet against this team when they are absolutely shooting the lights out right now. 
     
     
    Sheldon16
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2015 - 4:10 PM ET #17

    My thoughts are that golden state is gonna run this game at about an10 point lead most of the way and Memphis will get a backdoor cover out of it. 
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    My thoughts are that golden state is gonna run this game at about an10 point lead most of the way and Memphis will get a backdoor cover out of it. 
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