Harden is way better now. Not to mention I believe Harden was already gone before the Warriors were in the picture. Pretty sure he left after the Heat beat them in the finals. Also are you really comparing the warriors to this bucks team ? Lol
Harden is way better now. Not to mention I believe Harden was already gone before the Warriors were in the picture. Pretty sure he left after the Heat beat them in the finals. Also are you really comparing the warriors to this bucks team ? Lol
@Camouflage9
Exchanging ideas and trends on this forum is a good thing and good for you for contributing young man.
The problem is you are comparing apples to oranges. Those comparisons fail for a couple of glaring reasons:
1) The Warriors of years past were not a team built around a 6'11" guy handling the ball at the top of the key; and
2) You can't even compare the Durant and Harden of the OKC days to the Durant and Harden versions of today. Their games have adapted and changed with different teammates, coaches and offenses.
@Camouflage9
Exchanging ideas and trends on this forum is a good thing and good for you for contributing young man.
The problem is you are comparing apples to oranges. Those comparisons fail for a couple of glaring reasons:
1) The Warriors of years past were not a team built around a 6'11" guy handling the ball at the top of the key; and
2) You can't even compare the Durant and Harden of the OKC days to the Durant and Harden versions of today. Their games have adapted and changed with different teammates, coaches and offenses.
@Camouflage9
Lol I mean you still have to compare it to who they are playing. Those Heat and Warriors would beat any of these teams playing now. I still just don’t see the comparison when they are playing aBucks team who has never won anything. Giannis has yet to prove anything in the playoffs if anything you can compare him to the original Cavs when Lebron didn’t have any stars. Not saying the Nets will win I just don’t see the angle your going with
@Camouflage9
Lol I mean you still have to compare it to who they are playing. Those Heat and Warriors would beat any of these teams playing now. I still just don’t see the comparison when they are playing aBucks team who has never won anything. Giannis has yet to prove anything in the playoffs if anything you can compare him to the original Cavs when Lebron didn’t have any stars. Not saying the Nets will win I just don’t see the angle your going with
That Thunder team was raw talent, almost no experience other than Fisher and Perkins. Harden is way better, and Durant can find his shot any time he wants now, not to mention he's a fukn killer
That Thunder team was raw talent, almost no experience other than Fisher and Perkins. Harden is way better, and Durant can find his shot any time he wants now, not to mention he's a fukn killer
not trying to argue cos i think its a very tough call to make tonight so im not leaning heavy either way,but to play devils advocate the bucks are a great,well rounded REGULAR SEASON TEAM only so far based on what we have seen..for 4 straight regular seasons now we have seen them dominate or be very strong at least and then come playoff time they wilt and get exposed for glaring deficincies either in their mental make-up or their strategy..so thats the reason that folks are wary about backing them,they do look very nice "on paper" and yeah probably even better than the nets in that regard...but the nets have a super-duper,proven flamethrower in durant who has been all the way and veterans in griffin/green who have been through wars and it just feels like,even though this nets team has never been together on a playoff run before,the more likely team to unravel under pressure is probably bucks on the road.just because we have seen it over and over previously....so until proven otherwise,as humans we expect to see it again ya know?
not trying to argue cos i think its a very tough call to make tonight so im not leaning heavy either way,but to play devils advocate the bucks are a great,well rounded REGULAR SEASON TEAM only so far based on what we have seen..for 4 straight regular seasons now we have seen them dominate or be very strong at least and then come playoff time they wilt and get exposed for glaring deficincies either in their mental make-up or their strategy..so thats the reason that folks are wary about backing them,they do look very nice "on paper" and yeah probably even better than the nets in that regard...but the nets have a super-duper,proven flamethrower in durant who has been all the way and veterans in griffin/green who have been through wars and it just feels like,even though this nets team has never been together on a playoff run before,the more likely team to unravel under pressure is probably bucks on the road.just because we have seen it over and over previously....so until proven otherwise,as humans we expect to see it again ya know?
and in a general sense you are correct about that young thunder team,they really would have/should have won a title together but they just didnt stay together long enough and needed a little bit more seasoning.they didnt wanna pay harden and that was the end of that...remember at that point in time harden was just a very promising player coming off the bench and he flopped badly in the finals so wasnt really ready probably..it was only AFTER he left that he exploded into being MVP,all-star and league leader in scoring etc...and as good as durant was he is much better now,just an absolutely efficient killer that cant be stopped and defense is vastly improved,he even says it himself..so huge upgrades on 2021 harden/kd compared to 2012 versions....and if you add in a prime kyrie its no contest that this nets team is superior..but even without him and harden a bit broken i think it is a decent contest but still give nets the slight edge.mainly cos of experience.
also the warriors dynasty wasnt taking shape till 2014/15 so they were a non-factor to stand in the way of that thunder squad that harden was on..they never even competed against each other....but as we know,the westbrook/kd thunder did give a peak warriors team all they can handle in that one series.
and in a general sense you are correct about that young thunder team,they really would have/should have won a title together but they just didnt stay together long enough and needed a little bit more seasoning.they didnt wanna pay harden and that was the end of that...remember at that point in time harden was just a very promising player coming off the bench and he flopped badly in the finals so wasnt really ready probably..it was only AFTER he left that he exploded into being MVP,all-star and league leader in scoring etc...and as good as durant was he is much better now,just an absolutely efficient killer that cant be stopped and defense is vastly improved,he even says it himself..so huge upgrades on 2021 harden/kd compared to 2012 versions....and if you add in a prime kyrie its no contest that this nets team is superior..but even without him and harden a bit broken i think it is a decent contest but still give nets the slight edge.mainly cos of experience.
also the warriors dynasty wasnt taking shape till 2014/15 so they were a non-factor to stand in the way of that thunder squad that harden was on..they never even competed against each other....but as we know,the westbrook/kd thunder did give a peak warriors team all they can handle in that one series.
@Camouflage9
Experience? An older harden and durant is much better than young kd and harden. Westbrook imo was the reason they couldnt win a ring. He always tries to do too much in crunch time. Either its brick after brick or turning the ball over. He does it all in crunch time.
@Camouflage9
Experience? An older harden and durant is much better than young kd and harden. Westbrook imo was the reason they couldnt win a ring. He always tries to do too much in crunch time. Either its brick after brick or turning the ball over. He does it all in crunch time.
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