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nbafan88

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Posted: Jun. 25, 2009 - 12:20 AM ET #1

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rangerz2478

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Posted: Jun. 25, 2009 - 12:21 AM ET #2

Says who? All I have seen is that they were seriously discussing it.

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nbafan88

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Posted: Jun. 25, 2009 - 12:25 AM ET #3

yahoo

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Cavs_Lover

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Posted: Jun. 25, 2009 - 12:31 AM ET #4

Glad they still keep their 1st round pick. Could very well pull off 1 more trade to move up into high teens or low 20's.

Would lose nothing by giving up what they are.

Even if Shaq flops he is off the books after 1 year.

Doesn't solve everything and is nowhere near a guarantee to put them over the top but I can't fault the Cavs front office for trying to win and huge props to the Cavs owner for opening up his wallet and showing a true effort to bring home a winner.

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nbafan88

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Posted: Jun. 25, 2009 - 12:33 AM ET #5

even if shaq only plays in the playoffs this is a great move and what the hell do they lose?

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Cavs_Lover

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Posted: Jun. 25, 2009 - 12:41 AM ET #6

Dan Gilbert one of a handful of owners right now with enough cash to willingly take on payroll to try to win.

I was thinking the same thing nbafan88. The Cavs were able to get homecourt with the team they had. Shaq could sit out all year and they would probably finish top 4 in Eastern Conference. Give him all the time off he needs and see if he has one more postseason run in him. If he doesn't then they still have room on the books for 2010. Not like they're breaking up a dynasty.

And now LeBron's FT shooting will look good.

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Jarrett75

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Posted: Jun. 25, 2009 - 12:48 AM ET #7

it was just on espn news

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calicappin

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Posted: Jun. 25, 2009 - 12:52 AM ET #8

YESSSSSSSSS

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Cavs_Lover

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Posted: Jun. 25, 2009 - 12:54 AM ET #9

And confirmed by Cavs executives that they have agreed in principle. Includes the 46th pick.

Would like to see them move up about 10 spots. I like Sam Young. A good defender at the 2 with length and maturity.

Gonna be interesting to see how it all fits.

Guaranteed to at least bring size in the middle and a presencein the locker room who has actually won something.

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canes86

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Posted: Jun. 25, 2009 - 12:54 AM ET #10

kudos to Cleveland ownership for trying something...as CavsLover said, this certainly doesn't solve anything, and a lot will be riding on how the Big Cactus holds up over the entire season/playoffs...but if he can stay healthy, and the Cavs role players can at least hit open shots (they will get plenty of them as Shaq and Lebron will be drawing constant doubles) then Cleveland not only has a colision course with whomever else is in the Eastern Conference Finals, but the NBA finals as well

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samuelsosa

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Posted: Jun. 25, 2009 - 1:05 AM ET #11

While I can't fault for trying...does anyone think this will put them over the hump?

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Cavs_Lover

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Posted: Jun. 25, 2009 - 1:09 AM ET #12

The one thing I will get sick of in a hurry is Shaq running his mouth.

When he went to Phoenix he was talking all kinds of shit about how it was the best team ever assembled, etc.

Wouldn't expect anything less from him now.

Not predicting this but could you imagine a Kobe vs. Shaq and LeBron Finals????

Talk about buildup and ratings.

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dannybonaduce

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Posted: Jun. 25, 2009 - 1:09 AM ET #13

I guess it will help them defend the 3 point shot which sunk their ship against Orlando. With Shaq on Howard they will not have to leave the shooters alone on the perimeter. That is assuming Shaq is in good shape and healthy in May. They still need a consistent shooter on offense to keep the opposing defense honest. Wally can't shoot his way out of a wet paper bag of aborted fetuses.

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Cavs_Lover

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Posted: Jun. 25, 2009 - 1:12 AM ET #14

Quote Originally Posted by samuelsosa:

While I can't fault for trying...does anyone think this will put them over the hump?

It's all speculation until all the games are played out. It is impossible to predict the impact until the postseason is played. It won't be deemed a success unless they win it all, simple as that. Nobody has seen Shaq and LBJ play together so it's one big guess right now.

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NFLNightmares

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Posted: Jun. 25, 2009 - 1:20 AM ET #15

Good for cavs..you think after kobe winning shaq wont be focused?

I know he has lost A TON but he will give EVERYTHING this year

I may bet a LA vs clev NBA FINAL prop this year

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samuelsosa

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Posted: Jun. 25, 2009 - 1:29 AM ET #16

Quote Originally Posted by Cavs_Lover:

It's all speculation until all the games are played out. It is impossible to predict the impact until the postseason is played. It won't be deemed a success unless they win it all, simple as that. Nobody has seen Shaq and LBJ play together so it's one big guess right now.

Of course. I was just trying to see if the public [covers posters] actually thought this was the move that would get them the ring.

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marnypoly

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Posted: Jun. 25, 2009 - 2:29 AM ET #17

THey should've made this trade before the deadline last season.

A little too late now.

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Gambleholic

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Posted: Jun. 25, 2009 - 2:46 AM ET #18

'Lebron, tell me how my ass tastes!'

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Gambleholic

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Posted: Jun. 25, 2009 - 2:46 AM ET #19

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marnypoly

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Posted: Jun. 25, 2009 - 2:48 AM ET #20

Shaq has now played with Kobe, Wade, and now Lebron.

Will he complete the trilogy and win a title with all of them?

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Drewfly

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Posted: Jun. 25, 2009 - 5:55 AM ET #21

Quote Originally Posted by marnypoly:

Shaq has now played with Kobe, Wade, and now Lebron.

Will he complete the trilogy and win a title with all of them?

FAIL

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stevebaily6

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Posted: Jun. 25, 2009 - 5:56 AM ET #22

shaq is 37, this is his last year.

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BestKeptSecret

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Posted: Jun. 25, 2009 - 6:12 AM ET #23

just kicking back, gonna see what happeneds from here

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gamble04

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Posted: Jun. 25, 2009 - 8:41 AM ET #24

anything less than a championship and was a failure but it looks great if your with cleveland now. The cavs lost nothing in this trade.

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ct1016

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Posted: Jun. 25, 2009 - 10:08 AM ET #25

Shaq is a better fit in Cleveland than he was in Phoenix.

Is this the good OLE' Shaq........................NO

Is this an OLD(er) Shaq..................................YES

But this OLD Shaq does make the Cavs better right now than they were last year and they did not have to give up practically anything to get better.

I think Grant Hill may be able to give the Cavs something too as long as they do not give up anything to acquire him......may be let Joe Smith go or do not re-sign him and then pick up Grant Hill.

But, IMHO, and I got ripped in the other thread I created [CARTER TO CAVS....rumor] about this, I think the Cavs should try to get Vince Carter or Rasheed Wallace.

Even if they have to give up Boobie Gibson or D West or M. Williams with Scherbiak...........I think having a guy that can have the offense ran through him is the way to go....Carter (pick and roll) or Wallace (pick and pop)...would give the Cavs the different dimensions that a team needs to put a roster together that can defeat (and defend) the various challenges that a NBA team will face during the regular season and post season.

What everyone is forgetting, is that LBJ is a GREAT with a capital "G" player right now.....and all he needs is a little help.....albeit, it has to be the right help, but all he needs is a little help and then the Cavs are right there!

I think with Shaq on the team LBJ will have an even better year than last year (assists as he drives to the hoop will be higher) and Shaq will get more finishes in the paint off LBJ passes and missed shots as his defender rolls over to defends a driving LBJ.

Cavs are better right now with this deal......one more deal will make them surpass Orlando and be a true contender for the Title.......

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Cavs lost nothing in this trade.

Clearly Ferry is trying to show that he is on the job. Now, I think they actually need to take a chance and get a WING guy and get better by letting Scberiak, D West or Illgaskas go with maybe the 1st round pick, etc..etc..etc..

But, IMHO, this was a GREAT move by the Cavs.