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    One thing is pretty indisputable

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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2014 - 12:05 AM ET #1

    This was one of the worst butt-whippings ever in an NBA finals. The Spurs totally humiliated the Heat.
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    Yes they did. That was a great display of basketball. That was a total team effort and played the right way. After the game their was no chest pounding or arrogance showed. They took the finals and showed total humility. They showed in a world of look at me, there still is a place for let's come together as a unit and do this as a team. It was nice to see.
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    Yes they did. That was a great display of basketball. That was a total team effort and played the right way. After the game their was no chest pounding or arrogance showed. They took the finals and showed total humility. They showed in a world of look at me, there still is a place for let's come together as a unit and do this as a team. It was nice to see.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 16, 2014 - 12:43 AM ET #3

    The 2004 Pistons beating the Dream Team of the Lakers was a bigger humiliation.  The Lakers were supposed to sweep that.  The Lakers had 5 Hall of Famers and the Pistons had a bunch of spare parts.  The Pistons torched the Lakers.
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    The 2004 Pistons beating the Dream Team of the Lakers was a bigger humiliation.  The Lakers were supposed to sweep that.  The Lakers had 5 Hall of Famers and the Pistons had a bunch of spare parts.  The Pistons torched the Lakers.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by RonnieBass:

    The 2004 Pistons beating the Dream Team of the Lakers was a bigger humiliation.  The Lakers were supposed to sweep that.  The Lakers had 5 Hall of Famers and the Pistons had a bunch of spare parts.  The Pistons torched the Lakers.

    They had 4 HOFs and Salami Walker if memory serves and yeah that was a beat down but I'm still not sure it was worse than this. I guess it was maybe cuz Detroit was a much bigger dog 
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    The 2004 Pistons beating the Dream Team of the Lakers was a bigger humiliation.  The Lakers were supposed to sweep that.  The Lakers had 5 Hall of Famers and the Pistons had a bunch of spare parts.  The Pistons torched the Lakers.

    They had 4 HOFs and Salami Walker if memory serves and yeah that was a beat down but I'm still not sure it was worse than this. I guess it was maybe cuz Detroit was a much bigger dog 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by RonnieBass:

    The 2004 Pistons beating the Dream Team of the Lakers was a bigger humiliation.  The Lakers were supposed to sweep that.  The Lakers had 5 Hall of Famers and the Pistons had a bunch of spare parts.  The Pistons torched the Lakers.

    Disagree the Hall of Famers on the Lakers were pretty washed up at that time.  Payton and Malone were almost 40 years old if I remember correctly.  Wade, Bron, and Bosh are all considered in their prime.  
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    The 2004 Pistons beating the Dream Team of the Lakers was a bigger humiliation.  The Lakers were supposed to sweep that.  The Lakers had 5 Hall of Famers and the Pistons had a bunch of spare parts.  The Pistons torched the Lakers.

    Disagree the Hall of Famers on the Lakers were pretty washed up at that time.  Payton and Malone were almost 40 years old if I remember correctly.  Wade, Bron, and Bosh are all considered in their prime.  
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:


    Disagree the Hall of Famers on the Lakers were pretty washed up at that time.  Payton and Malone were almost 40 years old if I remember correctly.  Wade, Bron, and Bosh are all considered in their prime.  

    I guess my perspective is that the Lakers were heavily favored and many said they would win 4-0 and the opposite happened.  


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    Disagree the Hall of Famers on the Lakers were pretty washed up at that time.  Payton and Malone were almost 40 years old if I remember correctly.  Wade, Bron, and Bosh are all considered in their prime.  

    I guess my perspective is that the Lakers were heavily favored and many said they would win 4-0 and the opposite happened.  


     
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    Heat definitely put on a better showing than that Lakers squad. One thing that should be talked about is, what would've happened if Lebron didn't get the vagina cramps in game 1? 

    For me, 2004 Lakers was a much bigger beatdown 
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    Heat definitely put on a better showing than that Lakers squad. One thing that should be talked about is, what would've happened if Lebron didn't get the vagina cramps in game 1? 

    For me, 2004 Lakers was a much bigger beatdown 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Champ_Iz_Here:

    Heat definitely put on a better showing than that Lakers squad. One thing that should be talked about is, what would've happened if Lebron didn't get the vagina cramps in game 1? 

    For me, 2004 Lakers was a much bigger beatdown 

     What if, a state of art arena in 2014 was able to keep its A/C running is a better question.
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    Heat definitely put on a better showing than that Lakers squad. One thing that should be talked about is, what would've happened if Lebron didn't get the vagina cramps in game 1? 

    For me, 2004 Lakers was a much bigger beatdown 

     What if, a state of art arena in 2014 was able to keep its A/C running is a better question.
     
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    I'm still trying to figure out what happened. 

    Heat won in 7 last year. They pretty much toyed with the Eastern Conference this year.  They had a 6 point lead into 4Q of G1.  They won G2.  And then it seemed like a completely different team, like they couldn't handle the Spurs altogether.

    And the Spurs weren't that dominant. Dallas stretched them to 7.  OKC stretched them to w DD blowouts in G3 and G4 and should've won in G6. 

    So WTF happened in this series? Why did Miami have such problem scoring when OKC and Dallas didn't have such issues? 

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    I'm still trying to figure out what happened. 

    Heat won in 7 last year. They pretty much toyed with the Eastern Conference this year.  They had a 6 point lead into 4Q of G1.  They won G2.  And then it seemed like a completely different team, like they couldn't handle the Spurs altogether.

    And the Spurs weren't that dominant. Dallas stretched them to 7.  OKC stretched them to w DD blowouts in G3 and G4 and should've won in G6. 

    So WTF happened in this series? Why did Miami have such problem scoring when OKC and Dallas didn't have such issues? 

     
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    BTW, the '04 Lakers lost when Malone went down.  That team had no depth and losing Malone meant they had no 3rd scorer and 2nd best rebounder. Heat lost nobody.  They just collapsed.
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    BTW, the '04 Lakers lost when Malone went down.  That team had no depth and losing Malone meant they had no 3rd scorer and 2nd best rebounder. Heat lost nobody.  They just collapsed.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by composite:

    I'm still trying to figure out what happened. 

    Heat won in 7 last year. They pretty much toyed with the Eastern Conference this year.  They had a 6 point lead into 4Q of G1.  They won G2.  And then it seemed like a completely different team, like they couldn't handle the Spurs altogether.

    And the Spurs weren't that dominant. Dallas stretched them to 7.  OKC stretched them to w DD blowouts in G3 and G4 and should've won in G6. 

    So WTF happened in this series? Why did Miami have such problem scoring when OKC and Dallas didn't have such issues? 


    OKC would have won Game 6 if the refs call an illegal screen on Duncan which allowed that Ginoboli three.  

    The Heat did not hit enough open shots.  Plain and simple.   When you have wide open threes, they have to be made.  The Spurs made their wide open shots.  
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    I'm still trying to figure out what happened. 

    Heat won in 7 last year. They pretty much toyed with the Eastern Conference this year.  They had a 6 point lead into 4Q of G1.  They won G2.  And then it seemed like a completely different team, like they couldn't handle the Spurs altogether.

    And the Spurs weren't that dominant. Dallas stretched them to 7.  OKC stretched them to w DD blowouts in G3 and G4 and should've won in G6. 

    So WTF happened in this series? Why did Miami have such problem scoring when OKC and Dallas didn't have such issues? 


    OKC would have won Game 6 if the refs call an illegal screen on Duncan which allowed that Ginoboli three.  

    The Heat did not hit enough open shots.  Plain and simple.   When you have wide open threes, they have to be made.  The Spurs made their wide open shots.  
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by composite:

    BTW, the '04 Lakers lost when Malone went down.  That team had no depth and losing Malone meant they had no 3rd scorer and 2nd best rebounder. Heat lost nobody.  They just collapsed.

    If Shaq and Kobe weren't fighting, the Lakers would have won easily.  
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    BTW, the '04 Lakers lost when Malone went down.  That team had no depth and losing Malone meant they had no 3rd scorer and 2nd best rebounder. Heat lost nobody.  They just collapsed.

    If Shaq and Kobe weren't fighting, the Lakers would have won easily.  
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by composite:

    BTW, the '04 Lakers lost when Malone went down.  That team had no depth and losing Malone meant they had no 3rd scorer and 2nd best rebounder. Heat lost nobody.  They just collapsed.

     

    Mike Miller was a big part of the heat last year

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    BTW, the '04 Lakers lost when Malone went down.  That team had no depth and losing Malone meant they had no 3rd scorer and 2nd best rebounder. Heat lost nobody.  They just collapsed.

     

    Mike Miller was a big part of the heat last year

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by examine:

     

    Mike Miller was a big part of the heat last year


    I didn't like the amnesty of Miller.  But that was the owner's call and not Pat Riley's decision.  He would have helped and hit the wide open threes that many of these other guys continually missed. 
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    Mike Miller was a big part of the heat last year


    I didn't like the amnesty of Miller.  But that was the owner's call and not Pat Riley's decision.  He would have helped and hit the wide open threes that many of these other guys continually missed. 
     
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    In terms of point differential, this year was the biggest beatdown in Finals history
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    the eastern conference sucked this year. Miami would not have been in the finals if they were in the west. so tired of LeBron. go away already!!
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    the eastern conference sucked this year. Miami would not have been in the finals if they were in the west. so tired of LeBron. go away already!!
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by composite:

    I'm still trying to figure out what happened. 

    Heat won in 7 last year. They pretty much toyed with the Eastern Conference this year.  They had a 6 point lead into 4Q of G1.  They won G2.  And then it seemed like a completely different team, like they couldn't handle the Spurs altogether.

    And the Spurs weren't that dominant. Dallas stretched them to 7.  OKC stretched them to w DD blowouts in G3 and G4 and should've won in G6. 

    So WTF happened in this series? Why did Miami have such problem scoring when OKC and Dallas didn't have such issues? 


    What happened is the Western Conference has much better/stronger teams from top to bottom.  Of course the Spurs were challenged in the West, the conference was stacked this year.  
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    I'm still trying to figure out what happened. 

    Heat won in 7 last year. They pretty much toyed with the Eastern Conference this year.  They had a 6 point lead into 4Q of G1.  They won G2.  And then it seemed like a completely different team, like they couldn't handle the Spurs altogether.

    And the Spurs weren't that dominant. Dallas stretched them to 7.  OKC stretched them to w DD blowouts in G3 and G4 and should've won in G6. 

    So WTF happened in this series? Why did Miami have such problem scoring when OKC and Dallas didn't have such issues? 


    What happened is the Western Conference has much better/stronger teams from top to bottom.  Of course the Spurs were challenged in the West, the conference was stacked this year.  
     
     
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    The 2004 Lakers were beset with internal fighting between their 2 biggest stars.


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